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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 09:07:00 -
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What are asking for here exactly? It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone with a placebo spread sheet. Can I get some details on what you want? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 09:13:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Cosgar wrote:What are asking for here exactly? It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone with a placebo spread sheet. Can I get some details on what you want? Is that the only thing, you guys can say to prove you point ?; "It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone" That is getting old now... try something new.
Not sure why you're trying to call me out on something. I'm simply asking for articulated details.
PS: I used to like CoD and still play BF from time to time. I play Dust more because it's different. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 09:22:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cosgar wrote:What are asking for here exactly? It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone with a placebo spread sheet. Can I get some details on what you want? who said anything about CoD or BF?  I said DUST isn't EVE and you bring up these games? I'm lost...
That makes two of us... |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 09:37:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:GLiMPSE X wrote:
One could argue that the sooner you realize that CCP as a development studio has a unique way of doing things that you need to come to terms with....the better.
Furthermore, having knee-jerk emotional reactions to gaming balance without looking at data is a quicker route to failure than making informed, educated decisions.
CCP development style suits PC gamers. Pretty sure I said looking @ data while ignoring feedback... so yeah, just looking at data for a FPS has not been working out well has it? Started writing a post... got zoomed by 6 people  looks at current tank/ dropship / gun balance issues... nah they listen Don't think you know how many threads were made about tanks during chromosome...NONE were taken into consideration. Heavy + HMG? lol... that showed me CCP's data is based on pubstomping noobs. They listen yes... and no 
I think the problem with HMG balancing stems from it being compared to light weapons since there aren't any other AI heavy weapons. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:16:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:There is no such thing as an FPS formula. There is also no such thing as revolutionary gameplay or redefining the FPS genre. There are only successful games and unsuccessful games. Looking at DUST right now it's pretty obvious where it's going to stand on that spectrum in the next couple of months. And for a game with the mechanics such as DUST, if it doesn't take off after the first ~3 months it never will. You'll need to define your definition of 'successful'. The game can grow to 60k concurrent players with a million users and have a 10% p2p rate of 10/month or more and you've got a decent revenue stream. The f2p model thrives on getting people to stick with their game. Having a passive progression mechanic is enticing to lots of former players to check back in. Dust may never be as successful as the new cod game that comes out every 6 months in terms of box sales, or have as many concurrent players for those 6 months. But if done correctly and prudently it can still be a very lucrative and 'successful' title for CCP.
Look at the average shelf life of a CoD game, DLC included. Now multiply that times 10, and that's the projected success we should be seeing from dust. Plus you won't have to spend a dime on new content. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:25:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:
Cod only last a year because Treyarch wants money. So people are now conditioned to buy a COD every year. If you knew people would keep buying the same product year after year wouldn't you do the same?
BF titles usually last for 2 years because that's simply how DICE does it. It's about making money.
And believe it or not I believe Dust is a cash grab anyway for EVE. Notice how once Dust went into beta EVE went over 500,000 subs. There are people I know playing EVE that would've never batted an eye at it until Dust.
That's good marketing on CCPs side. Why shell out $60 for a AAA floozie and another $10-30 later to invite her sister DLC when you get Dust 514 for free, never have to pay for new content, dedicated servers, and another game to consider since its in the same universe? |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:31:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:Cosgar wrote:Elrick Mercer wrote:
Cod only last a year because Treyarch wants money. So people are now conditioned to buy a COD every year. If you knew people would keep buying the same product year after year wouldn't you do the same?
BF titles usually last for 2 years because that's simply how DICE does it. It's about making money.
And believe it or not I believe Dust is a cash grab anyway for EVE. Notice how once Dust went into beta EVE went over 500,000 subs. There are people I know playing EVE that would've never batted an eye at it until Dust.
That's good marketing on CCPs side. Why shell out $60 for a AAA floozie and another $10-30 later to invite her sister DLC when you get Dust 514 for free, never have to pay for new content, dedicated servers, and another game to consider since its in the same universe? Never said it was a bad marketing ploy. But I believe that they don't really care about Dust and are only trying to use it to up EVE subscriptions. Even though this game has dedicated servers it runs like a game that is peer to peer.
It's quite the opposite. At fanfest there was barely any new content in EVE Online, most of the work is going into Dust. |
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