The sooner CCP realizes this, is the sooner DUST can become a far better game. Trying to please people that click on boxes, and look at spreadsheets while preaching "HTFU" and chanting "Welcome to New Eden" will be the downfall of this game.

Looking at only data while ignoring feedback, is a guaranteed way of unbalancing the game. Duvolle Tact. is fine btw

Is that the only thing, you guys can say to prove you point ?; "It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone"

That is getting old now... try something new.

CCP development style suits PC gamers.

Pretty sure I said looking @ data while ignoring feedback...

so yeah, just looking at data for a FPS has not been working out well has it?

Simple really... is only one "recipe" you can follow to make a FPS... the fact that everyone follows the same recipe, doesn't means that you "Copying" other people... You just using the working "Formula", that has been effective for DECADES of gaming.

right... so taking them months to fix aiming falls perfectly into their timing I guess.

Also gun balancing issues...nah, CCP has their data for that...which btw, they've messed up a couple times while applying numbers.

I've always been cynical about how CCP handles their game for the console crowd. So you can be as optimistic as you want, while I stay as cynical as I want.

I'll give them props, but I'll point out flaws. Some people just all out CCP fanboys... *cough*eveplayers*cough* which is doing nothing to help DUST.

Did i say CoD ?... i talking about DECADES ago ... when the 1st FPS game where made, every one still uses that formula...

All FPS games have similarities with each other... do you ever wonder why ?

You asking CCP to do the impossible .... and you don't want to be call stupid ?

Judging from your likes, you have either just joined this game or dont post on the forums like myself. Lance and I have been playing Dust since the very first closed beta build, so we know how CCP develops their game over time, however as he said it is suited for PC gamers. I was optimistic once, like yourself, all the promises of a deeper FPS, all the stories and awesome mind boggling devblogs. But over time, I realised these weren't coming any time soon, its just how CCP develops their game, you know. I've been waiting for this game to become something else, but at this pace, it really won't any time soon, more like soonTM soon. Groundwork is all they have, it isn't an MMO at its core, it is an FPS, so something needs to change. They no longer have the closed beta shield to hide behind, patches to problems like aiming and Tac AR damage need to be dished out faster than they currently are.

how is creating another corp a "tool"? lol

+1 for stupidity. GG

I'm out

your stupidy =/= EVE players... just yours

This game has been in dev since 2010. It's now 2013 the release version of the game which is one year late runs like a beta. How much longer do they need to fix frame rate issues, FPS gameplay mechanics? The FPS side of Dust should've been done first then the rpg elements could have been built around it. Dust is looking like a nice house built on a **** poor foundation.

hope can only get you so far...

nope, i love hearing people's opinions, and i don't call people stupid for disagreeing with me...that's reserved for special occasions

Actually no. It's a fact hope will only get you so far. I had hope 3 years ago that Dust would be a good game but it was screwed when this is what we got. A worse slower version version of Section 8...

that thread brings me right back to this thread...EVE players wanting DUST to be like EVE...

Ignorant? No. Trolly? sometimes. Losing an argument based on opinions? lol...

There is no such thing as an FPS formula. There is also no such thing as revolutionary gameplay or redefining the FPS genre. There are only successful games and unsuccessful games. Looking at DUST right now it's pretty obvious where it's going to stand on that spectrum in the next couple of months. And for a game with the mechanics such as DUST, if it doesn't take off after the first ~3 months it never will.

oh look, another alt

Hope isn't going to put money in my pocket so I can feed my family. Fact

Hope isn't going to keep my mother from dying. Fact

Hope isn't going to make CCP make a good game. Fact

Hope didn't help those victims ravaged by a 2 mile wide hurricane. Fact

Hope didn't help the children at Sandy hook. Fact

Hoping something good will come of Dust lackadaisical development wont get you anywhere especially if it's already had 3 years on the table. CCP needs to get up and fix it.

Hope didn't make CCP fix the frame rate issues in this game. Fact

Hope didn't get CCP to fix the vehicle imbalance. Fact

Hope didn't get CCP to actually listen to us. Fact

But if you some how have magic hope and can do these things then hope away...

*facepalm*

After just insulting my troll skilz...

First bit means while you may have played EVE online and know how they developed there, you probably haven't played dust since the first closed beta build, and won't know exactly how CCP develop this game. I can pretty much predict from the patch notes if a nerf will be too much without stats, because its CCP and I have grown to know the,. I haven't grown impatient, just tired. CCP promised a lot in the year of 2013, but I know most of it won't come. If you have been playing the beta, you will know that CCP likes to take their time on gamebreaking problems, overnerfing them while at the same time completely breaking something at the same time I don't know how long you have played the closed/open beta for, but if you have played as long as I have, you know not to expect too much. I haven't grown impatient, I just laugh at how optimistic people are sometimes.

Cod only last a year because Treyarch wants money. So people are now conditioned to buy a COD every year. If you knew people would keep buying the same product year after year wouldn't you do the same?

BF titles usually last for 2 years because that's simply how DICE does it. It's about making money.

And believe it or not I believe Dust is a cash grab anyway for EVE. Notice how once Dust went into beta EVE went over 500,000 subs. There are people I know playing EVE that would've never batted an eye at it until Dust.

Yeah well don't expect to much cross game interest if Dust doesn't take off...