What are asking for here exactly? It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone with a placebo spread sheet. Can I get some details on what you want?

I am curious to what they want. The devs listen and then implement fixes and I am very confused what he wants the game to be like because I thought DUST is what it is and not something game. We are different than eve in lots of different ways, I just don't get it I guess.

You wonder why people tell you to 'go play cod' when you're advocating that games have to follow the 'cod' formula to be a 'working formula'

If you want cod, go play cod, i saw an advertisement for a new one. Meanwhile, I'll be here hoping for a revolutionary gaming experience that redefines the formula. *fingers crossed*

Just because it is popular doesn't mean it is good or correct. All other fps have the same problems but their games have a 6-8 month life span and it is not a big deal. We were in beta linger than most games live and release may not be the game we wanted but it is the game we have. Starting off a new thread calling eve players stupid isn't the best way to make friends or engage in conversations that are supposed to be constructive.

Trailer... super developer computer with all the settings WAY up. Unimplemented tests and the like...

Gah, okay, addressing the subject of this thread.

Yes, DUST is not, strictly speaking, EVE Online. However, they are in the same universe, and they are liked, as games. The general theory behind the two games are similar (do what you want, even scam, without any official punishment), and the general structure of the equipment is similar.

This suggests that any mechanics should be similar (not the same), such as damage modifiers, spying mechanics, PC, etc. Now, this isn't to say that the game is perfect at its current stage, but EVE players do know more in-depth of how these things work in Eve online, and therefore in New Eden, and therefore how they should work in DUST 514. Not all of us EVE players abhor FPS's, and have actually played a few in the past.

We can all agree that the controls and some mechanics leave something to be desired, as well as some weapons balance. However, with regards to other in-game mechanics, such as vehicle balance or shield/armor, EVE players have more of a say than CoD or BF users. simply because they have more experience dealing with customising and optimising it.

No, but you do have policemen writing books. And chefs. And sportsmen. I don't see your point.

Frankly, FPS players have no idea of how to make DUST 514 work. Yes, it may be an FPS, but it departs from most FPS's everytime you're not in a match. Which other FPS allows you to walk around a merc quarter when you're not playing a match? Which other FPS allows you to customise your character to the point where you can determine how much tank you have, and what roles you play? Which other FPS allows you to play a fully persistent game? Which other FPS purposefully allows you to attack who you want?

That's only the features we currently have.

In time, when other features come in, which other FPS will allow you to sell and buy gear? Which other FPS will allow you to determine exactly how many resources you bring to the battlefield? Which other FPS will allow you to fully customise your own weapons and armor, including paint jobs?