The funny/worst part is, we've had absolutely 0 acknowledgement from CCP re: the TAC. No 'Working as inteded', no 'Broken weapon, we know', no 'We've got higher priorities'.. Nothing.

That's what stings the most. If they had plans to fix it, they should say it. Don't get me wrong - Dust DEV's Best Devs - but it seems that the actual devs of the game are the ones making the posts. No department dedicated to the forums. So if the devs are busy(which im about 100% sure they are), they cant really interact with us forum trolls.

It's a vicious cycle. :(

CPMs fault.

To make a real life comparison, it's like saying that a .50 (what the large blaster represents) is the same as a .556 (what assault rifles are). CCP, you NEED to nerf this thing. If you're nerfing tanks bc we kill too many people, then this thing needs a double nerf bc NO tank can cause the amount of pain this can bc it can go ANYWHERE.

What I don't understand is why CCP does not tone TAC's down (dmg/rof/range) bit by bit, finding balance that way?

Why all so HUGE changes which lead to inevitable imbalance?

Trying to appeal to the CoD/BF crowd?

Another moron that thinks those games have 1 weapon in the game almost everyone uses, when in actuality those games have weapon variety. It's this community CCP is appealing to, not any other that cried buff, nerf, buff. Players from "COD/BF" that are coming in droves are seeing the imbalance.

Stacking 4-5 damage mod might look good, but doing that decrease your chances of survival in the battlefield, and there is also a stacking penalty, the more mods of the same type you put, the less it becomes effective. If you see those players doing 20-30 kills per match, it's not because of stacking damage mods (unless their snipers), it's because they have 1 complex damage mod, 2-4 complex shield extender, (one shield regulator for Caldaris if they feel like it), and a plate repair. They focus on surviving against close up gunfights, TAR is good enough with just one damage mod.

Don't be silly, CoD/BF players care more about racking up kills than balance. That's why the TAR will probably never be touched, let alone the entire AR line.

Your being silly if you think any of those 2 games have 1 weapon 90% of the community uses. I stated those gamed have balance in their weapons. Who gives a **** what they care about. Don't try to derail the points I'm trying to make. It just makes you look more dum.

Slaping on 2 to 4 damage mods on a suit is perfectly viable if you play it right. I sometimes run a standard assult caldari suit with a standard assult rifile and roll proto gear face with godly scores. Yes, it is because i am more skilled than the average blue berry but the point is, ANYTHING is effective in pubs and 95% of dust players do not play pc ( i will show the math if you think im kidding). They do not enjoy pubs, and skilled players can run these kinds of builds in PC. The TAC is more than overpowered and its MORE than a portable blaster weapon. At this point, It is an exploit

QQ some more an exploit gtfo you still have to land your shots and in this regard the ROF of the blasters out DPS the rifles. You might have convinced me on a slight ROF reduction and a wider dispersion so hipfire wastn't as easy to use to get kills but honestly maple you just come off like a whiny child along with the rest of the TAR is OP crowd. The AR is a precision weapon so of course its DPS potential is amazing but you have to hit your shots and make them count.

Stacking damage mods is about risk reward. You reference 5 high slot suits which one minimatar assault or the caldari logi becuse the minimatar suit struggles on the CPU/PG end of things to create its balance.

So oh the caldari logi you mean the suit that almost all agree needs to lose its role bonus(some argue a low slot; i dont the role bonus is suffficient enough to bring it back in line). Well now you have whats known as a confounding variable. You cant measure the TAR on its own if its being used in conjuction with an unbalanced suit.


So yea throwing numbers at me doesnt do anything for me, next time try context and you may be able to convince me.

So these are very simular weapons, both doing simular amounts of damage, rate of fire and "clip" size.
If you really wanna, you can have a tank cannon in your hands. Choose your tank cannon and slap on the correct amount of damage mods, you have a blaster. The only diffrence is you can fit your Duvolle in tight spaces

The diffrence is that you can one shot infantry, but Tac infantry can only scratch your paint.

I can see why Infantry whines about it, i don't get why tankers need to whine about it ?

QQ some more an exploit gtfo you still have to land your shots and in this regard the ROF of the blasters out DPS the rifles. You might have convinced me on a slight ROF reduction and a wider dispersion so hipfire wastn't as easy to use to get kills but honestly maple you just come off like a whiny child along with the rest of the TAR is OP crowd. The AR is a precision weapon so of course its DPS potential is amazing but you have to hit your shots and make them count.

Stacking damage mods is about risk reward. You reference 5 high slot suits which one minimatar assault or the caldari logi becuse the minimatar suit struggles on the CPU/PG end of things to create its balance.

So oh the caldari logi you mean the suit that almost all agree needs to lose its role bonus(some argue a low slot; i dont the role bonus is suffficient enough to bring it back in line). Well now you have whats known as a confounding variable. You cant measure the TAR on its own if its being used in conjuction with an unbalanced suit.


So yea throwing numbers at me doesnt do anything for me, next time try context and you may be able to convince me.

Tanks do not need to whine about it, it does like 7% efficiency rate against vehicals lol like you said its all about infaintry

A +100 to you Sir.
And the AR is very expensiv. I can use it, but I don't do it allways, loosing one hurts me alot!
Damagemods? omfg! Areou insane? I'm using this thing in a "as mutch tank as possible" suit and i'm craping myself if it comes to a 1 on 1. Again, loosing this thing hurts a lot, and to be effectiv you first have to hit. And a have never sean a HAV with a AR mountet ...

The Duvolle Tac has 78.5 damage, pretty fair amount, a proto blaster turrent, the ion cannon. does 136.5. about half as much damage, seems ligit. But if you have pro 5 (3% damage increase per level) 78.5 raises to 90.275. If you are in the caldari or mini assult you have lots of high slots (4 and 5 respectably). Slap on 4 damage mods and 90.275 raises to 121.675 damage per shot.

Then i dont see why you need to vs use the tank gun caliber damage to use in your post, they use the same metrics in damage applied, but one of them cant shoot at oranges, only apples.

And while i agree the TAC needs to be balanced, comparing it to a tank turret is not the way to go.