You can get 10k war points in around 15 to 20 skirmish matches.


Assuming you're able to get 1000 warpoints per game.

You can get 10k war points in around 15 to 20 skirmish matches.


Assuming you're able to get 1000 warpoints per game.

I'd rather them ditch the Academy and actually do ranked match making. It will make the game more fun for everyone involved.

Should raise to 100,000 WP.

I think it's still a lot.

You'd rather it be fewer? They're likely not going to get past standard level gear when they go on to regular instant battles and get stomped pretty hard. We don't need a battle academy. We need real matchmaking for instant battles, not this lazy solution. God, I hope its temporary. So many games before Dust's time could manage matchmaking. Why is it so difficult to implement?

They should however offer newberry versions of all game modes, not just ambush(I'm guessing it's ambush right?)

You'd rather it be fewer? They're likely not going to get past standard level gear when they go on to regular instant battles and get stomped pretty hard. We don't need a battle academy. We need real matchmaking for instant battles, not this lazy solution. God, I hope its temporary. So many games before Dust's time could manage matchmaking. Why is it so difficult to implement?

Cuz in many ways CCP are idiots.

Seriously just base it on SP and set brackets.

Easiest thing in the world to do.

SP doesn't equate to skill.

I graduated from the Academy after only gaining 95,000 SP (and the 10,000 WP), meaning I only had around 595,000 SP to invest in my skills. Now that I am fighting with the 3 million + SP advanced suits and prototype users, I am completely outclassed. And odds are, most of the new players will find themselves in a similar situation when they "graduate."

To be frank, the WP cap for the Academy needs to increase, so new players can earn the SP they need to actually have a chance to compete. Otherwise, you'll end up like me, lacking SP as you're thrown to the wolves upon graduation.

SP doesn't equate to skill.

You'd rather it be fewer? They're likely not going to get past standard level gear when they go on to regular instant battles and get stomped pretty hard. We don't need a battle academy. We need real matchmaking for instant battles, not this lazy solution. God, I hope its temporary. So many games before Dust's time could manage matchmaking. Why is it so difficult to implement?

...oh and the academy should also promote the importance of joining squads and having a mic when playing.

I understand that the academy is to help newberries develop a basic understanding of how the game works, but I think 10,000 WP is pushing it a bit. The chatroom is filled with some people wondering and wanting to get into the other game modes only to be let down when they hear "10,000 WP." I have an alt that's in the academy and it doesn't seem fair for the WP to be that slow for me as well. I think it should be reduced in half or change the way newbies can graduate. I have a feeling it might drive some away waiting too long to get into the other game modes.

If everyone ran around with basically equal Sp there would be no need to fix this issue.

The problem arises from vast differences in SP not vast differences in player skill.

Making a little playground where newberries can take turns kicking sand in eachother's eyes for a couple of days should not replace the need for a tutorial and even matchmaking. It's like if I let my son shoot cans in the back yard with a red ryder bb gun for a few minutes before handing him a goddamned 700 nitro express!
As soon as a new player opens Dust 514, there needs to be a starting instance zone that you can't quit, similar to Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion where the player goes through different weapons, suits and vehicles on a (god I can't believe I'm making this reference) CoD rail style level that gives them a chance to play with everything the game has to offer, hands on with that annoying kitten of a game announcer blabbing in their ear about every little thing they need to do and how to do it. After that mock mission, then and only then should they be allowed to pick their starting race and bloodline and then get thrown into the kiddie pool to get their feet wet.
While the new player is busy taking turns with a red berry, shooting each other in the face, a certificate system in place as an (optional) guideline as to what skills to focus on leveling while playing. Each suit, weapon, piece of equipment should have these recommended nodes highlighted on the skill tree with an emphasis on core skills! so they don't make the same mistake most all of us did starting out: getting into a good, expensive suit with an expensive weapon but nothing to show for it. Each battle should have little arrows on what to hack, how to give squad orders, the importance of equipment like up links, nanohives, and most important of all nanite injectors!
On top of all this, the WPs needed to "graduate" should be ~100,000 or when the player gets ~5,000,000 SP. Whichever comes first.

Why is there so much hate directed toward the Idea of placing players on more even ground in terms of SP or gear?

Is it possibly because the vets who have been in game long enough to have 10 mil sp would not be able to achieve easy victories by pubstomping random noobs?

Is it because they do not want to WORK for their victories by fighting players who are comparable in SP and gear?

Do they feel their KDR and wallets being threatened because they KNOW deep down inside that they really do NOT have the amount of skill that they think they do!

Are they afraid their "tactics" (running around the field of battle en masse using all proto gear and crushing anything that gets in their path) would not really work when faced with an opponent with comparable gear and core skills?

Seems if they are so confident in the amount of true player skill they had they would have no problem only battling players with comparable SP and gear.

I think I may be on to something.