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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:26:00 -
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I understand that the academy is to help newberries develop a basic understanding of how the game works, but I think 10,000 WP is pushing it a bit. The chatroom is filled with some people wondering and wanting to get into the other game modes only to be let down when they hear "10,000 WP." I have an alt that's in the academy and it doesn't seem fair for the WP to be that slow for me as well. I think it should be reduced in half or change the way newbies can graduate. I have a feeling it might drive some away waiting too long to get into the other game modes. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:30:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:I understand that the academy is to help newberries develop a basic understanding of how the game works, but I think 10,000 WP is pushing it a bit. The chatroom is filled with some people wondering and wanting to get into the other game modes only to be let down when they hear "10,000 WP." I have an alt that's in the academy and it doesn't seem fair for the WP to be that slow for me as well. I think it should be reduced in half or change the way newbies can graduate. I have a feeling it might drive some away waiting too long to get into the other game modes. That's like 20 matches for a noob. He shouldn't even cap out before he's "graduated".
I think it's still a lot. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:36:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:I understand that the academy is to help newberries develop a basic understanding of how the game works, but I think 10,000 WP is pushing it a bit. The chatroom is filled with some people wondering and wanting to get into the other game modes only to be let down when they hear "10,000 WP." I have an alt that's in the academy and it doesn't seem fair for the WP to be that slow for me as well. I think it should be reduced in half or change the way newbies can graduate. I have a feeling it might drive some away waiting too long to get into the other game modes. When they complain, offer them a spot in your squad to fight full proto's over and over again. I wonder how long it will be before they want back in the academy.
Heh, pre-Uprising we never had academy and it was always a blast for most people despite the bugs. But to play in the same kind of match over and over again just wears everyone out. I have ADHD, I don't like routine battles. For example, I would play 2-3 skirmishes, 2-3 domination, 1-2 mercenary and then lot out for a bit. But 20 academy in a row? That means I would play maybe 3-4 academy instants and then log out since it doesn't keep me interested. Yes, it does have mercenary battles but it comes very rarely (at least, for me.) |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:38:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:They should however offer newberries versions of all game modes, not just ambush(I'm guessing it's ambush right?)
Now, that's more like it. Academy versions of most game modes. +1 |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:41:00 -
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Otoky wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:They should however offer newberries versions of all game modes, not just ambush(I'm guessing it's ambush right?) Nop, in academy you can try all game mode (its randome).
Either I have a glitch playing in the same game mode repeatedly or you're pulling my leg. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:46:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I graduated from the Academy after only gaining 95,000 SP (and the 10,000 WP), meaning I only had around 595,000 SP to invest in my skills. Now that I am fighting with the 3 million + SP advanced suits and prototype users, I am completely outclassed. And odds are, most of the new players will find themselves in a similar situation when they "graduate."
To be frank, the WP cap for the Academy needs to increase, so new players can earn the SP they need to actually have a chance to compete. Otherwise, you'll end up like me, lacking SP as you're thrown to the wolves upon graduation.
Okay, I understand this. But I think CCP needs to offer more other things to do rather than just the academy to keep the newberries entertained and other ways to earn SP/WP. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:50:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I graduated from the Academy after only gaining 95,000 SP (and the 10,000 WP), meaning I only had around 595,000 SP to invest in my skills. Now that I am fighting with the 3 million + SP advanced suits and prototype users, I am completely outclassed. And odds are, most of the new players will find themselves in a similar situation when they "graduate."
To be frank, the WP cap for the Academy needs to increase, so new players can earn the SP they need to actually have a chance to compete. Otherwise, you'll end up like me, lacking SP as you're thrown to the wolves upon graduation. Okay, I understand this. But I think CCP needs to offer more other things to do rather than just the academy to keep the newberries entertained and other ways to earn SP/WP. PvE soontm ugh 
Oh, yeah. I remember reading about something like that. What's wrong with that? Isn't that a good way for the newberries? |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:51:00 -
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Bungholio Cornholio wrote:Drop 2 Militia Uplinks.
Get killed.
Hang out in MCC till end of match.
Earn about 500 WP per match.
Done in 20 matches.
BOOM!
Not this again. No way. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:51:00 -
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Chankk Saotome wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:. I have ADHD, I don't like routine battles. DUST is entirely routine at this point, even switching battle modes. Domination adds some spice but it's just a more massive objective camp than in Skirmish since the entirety of both teams will be at one position the whole time rather than a squad or two vs another squad or two at a regular skirm objective. Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but the whole thing is pretty stale already. The only variation was back before Uprising when people started throwing points into all kinds of different combat elements and doing weird nonsense, and that was awesome! Now with SP caps so heavily increased, everyone does one thing, and only one thing, and they do that one thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over again ad-infinitum until they can do that one thing a little bit later 1-week, 3-weeks, 5-weeks, 2-months later still...
Well, that's very true. You have a point. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:13:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:I think it's still a lot. You'd rather it be fewer? They're likely not going to get past standard level gear when they go on to regular instant battles and get stomped pretty hard. We don't need a battle academy. We need real matchmaking for instant battles, not this lazy solution. God, I hope its temporary. So many games before Dust's time could manage matchmaking. Why is it so difficult to implement?
+1 for real matchmaking instead of battle academy. This will put people on average footing with each other. |
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