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Mortedeamor
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:37:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:I have an alt that I started on the 14th to test out the scrambler - that alt has over 10,000 wp and no longer has access to instant academy battles.
Took no longer than 3 hrs, and has a total SP of 544,000
Now that alt gets to 'fight' in battles against proto players with 12 times the SP our point exactly |
Mortedeamor
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:39:00 -
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Anything that happened before the 14th of may should not count now, the game was not fully released until then.[/quote] this will not happen might as well forget about it. this game will have countless things added in over the next few years and just like eve it will always be a work in progress. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Quote:BETA is a test phase, all stats should have been reset for the official release of this game.
Anything that happened before the 14th of may should not count now, the game was not fully released until then. @Immortal Captain Please remember that CCP is operating under a very different design philosophy. Just because other games reset the stats on launch it doesn't mean CCP is obligated to do the same thing. Those other companies that do reset the stats generally do it because they felt like it or it was part of a certain norm. But CCP doesn't usually follow norms even if those norms are profitable. Especially when CCP used the whole "no more resets" thing to pull people in |
Ludwig Van AssWhoopin
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:57:00 -
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Lol, it took me 6 games to graduate the academy. Best score was 50-3. I must be god or something? |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:01:00 -
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They should let Newberrys do both, have to get 10000 WP or so to try new game modes with 'real' player base. Can keep doing academy battles until hit a million SP, and hard locked out of it.
That way they can test the waters, going deeper or back to the shallow part.
Also tweek the numbers to the right ammount. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:03:00 -
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Ludwig Van AssWhoopin wrote:Lol, it took me 6 games to graduate the academy. Best score was 50-3. I must be god or something?
Your a obvious imp alt. 50-3 thats crazy for using the same junk that likely all the bluest of blueberrys have. Though, with the skill level of people learning the game, might be like curb stomping bablies, so not much of a acomplishment. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:17:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:They should let Newberrys do both, have to get 10000 WP or so to try new game modes with 'real' player base. Can keep doing academy battles until hit a million SP, and hard locked out of it.
That way they can test the waters, going deeper or back to the shallow part.
Also tweek the numbers to the right ammount.
I like that idea... however I still feel like hard lock should be something like 4-5 million. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:37:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Patoman Radiant wrote:They should let Newberrys do both, have to get 10000 WP or so to try new game modes with 'real' player base. Can keep doing academy battles until hit a million SP, and hard locked out of it.
That way they can test the waters, going deeper or back to the shallow part.
Also tweek the numbers to the right ammount. I like that idea... however I still feel like hard lock should be something like 4-5 million. a million sp is not enough even more so in uprising ..5 will put you in an ok place assuming you are playing with a team and dont you could grab a proto gun and should be able to out it ona adv suit ..so long as you dont spread out like a crazy and specialize |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
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Posted - 2013.05.19 00:57:00 -
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ccp devs must like to proto stomp noobs with the big corps. lol. Under 1,000,000 skill points and you are paper thin with a bb gun when facing proto duvolle. Around 5,000,000 skill points you can probably start to barely hang in there depending on your actual skill. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:38:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Why is there so much hate directed toward the Idea of placing players on more even ground in terms of SP or gear? Oh, and regarding this post.. I first played in closed beta, started about mid July. I played until late August/early September, when I had to do some placement work overseas for 6 months, and started up again in March. When I left in September, I probably had about 4m SP, and when I came back, I had 500k. By then, people had already been playing for two months, and I was, judging by SP, horribly outmatched. For my first few days, I had a KDR of about 0.8. Then I got to about 100 deaths, and my KDR started rising, until it got to about 1.3. Unfortunately, I'm without my PS3 at the moment (and have been so for a month and a half), so when I finally get my PS3 back I'll, yet again, be horribly outmatched. But not too badly, as I'll have my passive SP from that time too. Point is, I was able to get back into the game that quickly because I already had some experience of it, I already knew how to handle the weapons, I already knew the maps, and I was already used to the game. Newberries don't have that luxury. I can guarantee that if we see an SP reset tomorrow, the vets will have better KDRs than the newberries. Vets have already created new players and gone on killing sprees in the academy. An SP reset is NOT a good idea.
Did you not have passive SP accumulating from end of closed beta Jan. 13 to when you picked the game up in march?
Who suggested an SP reset? I'm suggesting an SP Tier based match system go back and read my posts. |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:42:00 -
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Immortal Captain wrote:ImpureMort wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Why is there so much hate directed toward the Idea of placing players on more even ground in terms of SP or gear?
Is it possibly because the vets who have been in game long enough to have 10 mil sp would not be able to achieve easy victories by pubstomping random noobs?
Is it because they do not want to WORK for their victories by fighting players who are comparable in SP and gear?
Do they feel their KDR and wallets being threatened because they KNOW deep down inside that they really do NOT have the amount of skill that they think they do!
Are they afraid their "tactics" (running around the field of battle en masse using all proto gear and crushing anything that gets in their path) would not really work when faced with an opponent with comparable gear and core skills?
Seems if they are so confident in the amount of true player skill they had they would have no problem only battling players with comparable SP and gear.
I think I may be on to something. i have been playing this game for over a year WHEN THE CLOSED BETA OPENED we all got full on reset. if you piked up dust jan 13 when it first went open and stuck with it then closed beta testers only had a few weeks advantage. further more if you did not then the sp gap is your own fault this is an rpg where time and dedication do put you on a different lvl. i dont fight srubs i fight pro's those are the real battles the battles that are not boring. and just fyi most of us never move beyond adv gear in pubs because it makes it to easy unless you **** us off. if you dont want to dedicate the time and effort to be on equal equipment footing go back to C.O.D or halo and stop mucking up the forums. the only things that need to be talked about on here are bugs and improvements to the game this game is not a ordinary fps it will never be an ordinary fps so either step up your game and grind out a decent suit or STFU AND GET OUT BETA is a test phase, all stats should have been reset for the official release of this game. Anything that happened before the 14th of may should not count now, the game was not fully released until then.
They did a reset at the end of the CLOSED BETA then started the OPEN BETA in which anyone could participate! Resetting all accounts now would be equivalent to resetting all accounts a year from now...completely unnecessary.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:56:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Did you not have passive SP accumulating from end of closed beta Jan. 13 to when you picked the game up in march?
Who suggested an SP reset? I'm suggesting an SP Tier based match system go back and read my posts.
Apologies, I guess I assumed you were talking about an SP reset.
I should have had the passive SP, but when I got on, it wasn't set to active. I don't know why, I was actually kinda annoyed at that.
For the record, I'm also against SP-based tiers. I'm all for the instant battle academy, with a cap of 100k WP, but with an option to join instant battle/FW aswell, just in case you get bored/want a challenge/want to learn. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1013
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:56:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Quote:BETA is a test phase, all stats should have been reset for the official release of this game.
Anything that happened before the 14th of may should not count now, the game was not fully released until then. @Immortal Captain Please remember that CCP is operating under a very different design philosophy. Just because other games reset the stats on launch it doesn't mean CCP is obligated to do the same thing. Those other companies that do reset the stats generally do it because they felt like it or it was part of a certain norm. But CCP doesn't usually follow norms even if those norms are profitable. Especially when CCP used the whole "no more resets" thing to pull people in Even if there was a reset on the 14th, it wouldn't stop pub stompers from pub stomping, just slow them down a bit. You can't nerf experience and teamwork. |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:34:00 -
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The issue is that CCP has to balance it so that the cap is high enough that newberries can get a good grasp of the game's systems, but low enough that veteran assholes can't make an alt and accrue enough skillpoints to go proto in academy and grind new players into dust. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
567
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:47:00 -
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Given the numbers in this thread (10k WP for an extra 450k SP), 100k WP is a decent number. Given the weekly SP cap, anyone coming out of the academy should hit about 2mil SP by the time they get to 100k. In the meantime, to prevent boredom, add in the option to join instant battle too. That way, if they complain about playing with scrubs, they can go join the big boys there and see how hard they get stomped. |
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