I agree with... changing one thing at a time. i don't want a return to chromosome lasers cos they were OP, but lets avoid a see-saw of nerfing and buffing and get it right slowly.

Since the LR is really a Amarr beam laser it should have much much better range, and with this range should come a new sight. A scope or holographic site would be ideal. The fact that A. it needs to ramp up to do its dmg and B. if your not carefull it will blow up in your face justifies either a dmg buff or removing/shorting the ramp up time. I for one would rather have a Mega Pulse rifle tho :)

My fear is that if they do one thing at a time it's going to take many months (or even unitl the next major update) before the LR can compete with the TAC. I think they should take care of the sight as soon as humanly possible, and then they should have some internal testing with a full TAC team vs. a full LR team (with mixed gear). When the LR's have been tweaked to the point they aren't getting completely decimated in the internal tests, that would be a good time to release the fixes.

Also, ditching the ramp up damage is a priority. The damage of the beam should be stable to be on even terms with the other guns.

nothing needs to be done, clearly TAR needs to be fixed the LR is just fine.

nothing needs to be done, clearly TAR needs to be fixed the LR is just fine.

nothing needs to be done, clearly TAR needs to be fixed the LR is just fine.

I disagree with this. I want to keep DUST diverse with each weapon being unique not just reskinned ARs. I like the damage build up mechanic. The devs just need to tweak the numbers until it is balanced.

As a few people have said here CCP *needs* to start tweaking things one by one rather than in great swathes of changes. This method could be vulnerable to cunning metagamers that try to skew the statistics but I think DUST is big enough to be able to avoid this.

In my opinion they need to fix the LR sight first and then see what happens. Then if necessary boost the damage or range or...

Also, ditching the ramp up damage is a priority. The damage of the beam should be stable to be on even terms with the other guns.

There's been a pretty consistent consensus in this thread about how to resolve what is currently a pretty homogenous usage of weapons in dust. In my experience when there is this much consensus something is pretty obviously broken but The stats on weapon usage are there for the devs to see if they are questioning if this is a real issue or just a bunch of laser fanboys QQing. It would just be nice to at least have a "we are looking into it" from a dev.

Sights are the biggest issue. I wanna know how many problems will be solved by the sights being improved. Don't remove the glow, either. Reduce it. I don't know about damage, right now. Hard to properly say until the sights are properly addressed. Same with the TAR. The damage should be fine. 17 instead of the 15 is normally was.



Woefully bad idea. Weapon diversity is one of Dust's major issues. Making it a differently skinned AR would be pointless. The mechanic works. The sights need addressing before anything else.

I want to know how many of the lasers issues will be solved by better sights and the TAR not being insanely OP. When those 2 things happen, we will know what works and what doesn't. Right now, it's looked at purely as a countermeasure for something that is broken.

Ok lets do something constructive here.
I haven't fully tested the LR, but I'm pretty sure most people that used the LR in Uprising would agree, the LR requires adjustements.

Here are my suggestions/requests:

1- Range: increase the effective range to me would be a good counter to tac AR. Refer to this post for more discussions on the topic.

2- Overheat: at lower lever the LR is barely usable, it overheats really too fast. I am lvl 5 now and it is not even near the level 1 in chromosone. I would suggest decreasing the heat built up just a little but never at the level of chromosone.

3- Sight: we all know that someday we may be able to change the sight of our weapon, however the actual sight on the LR is not ideal for this type of weapon. I am requesting to change this ASAP. More discussion here and here

4- Damage: with the above adjustement I would wait to touch the damage.

5- Variety: ok this is maybe on the dev roadmap, but some LR variety would be nice. There is actually 3 ISK version and 1 AUR. Compared to the 14 AR available (not counting officer AR) this is... sad. . I would really like to see proficiency variants with longer range, or high damage/high heat built up versions (without going into the scrambler rifles domain of course).
More details: Laser rifles variants

6- Turning speed: As mentionned by few people, the turning speed at ADS is slow. Tracking of heavies is not that hard, but running assaults and logis is quite a challenge. A small thread about it here.

Other discussions:
- Bob Amarrley
- Aisha Ctarl
- SERPENT-Adamapple
- Baal Entreri

Oh! And please CCP, use a scientific approach by changing one thing at the time and ask some feedback between each. This will avoid QQing from the shielded guys...


What do you think?

Edits: few links added and item number 6.