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Phoenix Arakyd Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:11:00 - [1] - Quote http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/15/massivelys-dust-514-launch-impressions/
Garrett Whetshaft Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual 43	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:15:00 - [2] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/15/massivelys-dust-514-launch-impressions/ Jef Reahard http://massively.joystiq.com/editor/jef-reahard "He has also covered EverQuest II and Darkfall at length..." Quotes from article: "I've played EVE in some strange places prior to this. In an airport terminal, for example. On my toilet, even " "I'm not sure that DUST qualifies as an MMOFPS. I'd err on the side of no, not really because I've come to realize that games other than PlanetSide, PlanetSide 2, and World War II Online Battleground Europe have no business using the MMOFPS moniker." Take from that what you will....
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1528	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:15:00 - [3] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/15/massivelys-dust-514-launch-impressions/ Nice that even a review with a primarily negative bent still lists the good aspects and speaks to the potential of the game. Garrett Whetshaft wrote: Jef Reahard http://massively.joystiq.com/editor/jef-reahard "He has also covered EverQuest II and Darkfall at length..." Quotes from article: "I've played EVE in some strange places prior to this. In an airport terminal, for example. On my toilet, even " "I'm not sure that DUST qualifies as an MMOFPS. I'd err on the side of no, not really because I've come to realize that games other than PlanetSide, PlanetSide 2, and World War II Online Battleground Europe have no business using the MMOFPS moniker." Take from that what you will.... And then there's also that to consider.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 518	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:19:00 - [4] - Quote Quote: I love the idea of DUST just as I love the idea of EVE. The actual gameplay isn't particularly compelling, though. It's adequate in most respects, but there's nothing here that you haven't done in a thousand other shooters. This has been and continues to be the biggest drawback of Dust - legitimate concern, as were the list of Cons in his article. Lot of potential but a premature launch.
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:19:00 - [5] - Quote CCP really needs to do a better job bringing new players into the fold. This guy was reviewing the game for a major online MMO news/review site, and didn't even join any squads or try getting together with a corporation. Imagine how lost a MMO newb would feel. This game sucks for lone wolfing, but is awesome playing in squads and CCP needs to make this apparent for new players.
Garrett Whetshaft Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual 44	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:20:00 - [6] - Quote ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: CCP really needs to do a better job bringing new players into the fold. This guy was reviewing the game for a major online MMO news/review site, and didn't even join any squads or try getting together with a corporation. Imagine how lost a MMO newb would feel. +1 my thoughts exactly
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 190	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:25:00 - [7] - Quote Garrett Whetshaft wrote: Phoenix Arakyd wrote: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/15/massivelys-dust-514-launch-impressions/ Jef Reahard http://massively.joystiq.com/editor/jef-reahard "He has also covered EverQuest II and Darkfall at length..." Quotes from article: "I've played EVE in some strange places prior to this. In an airport terminal, for example. On my toilet, even " "I'm not sure that DUST qualifies as an MMOFPS. I'd err on the side of no, not really because I've come to realize that games other than PlanetSide, PlanetSide 2, and World War II Online Battleground Europe have no business using the MMOFPS moniker." Take from that what you will.... also: Cons: Dated presentation/visuals Sloppy, imprecise shooter controls Inadequate keyboard/mouse support Future potential tied to EVE Online <<<-----why is this a CON? Reason it's a con in my interpretation it's because dust can't stand on its own 2 legs. Dust without eve will just be a shooter.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Unclaimed. 227	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:25:00 - [8] - Quote the guy's a moron he has trouble understanding the skill system even after it was dumbed down. not much more you can do other then draw pictures with crayons to help explain it for folks like that. Peace B
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:26:00 - [9] - Quote A short voiceover cut scene saying something like "New Eden is a harsh place, and you're not going to make it far on your own. You must find other mercenaries who share your goals and vision to fight by your side, and you by theirs." With some quick snips of how to invite players to squad, or search corporations, and then maybe some cut scene style "gameplay" where a Merc is getting owned and goes down, but as the voice says "you must find other mercenaries..." another merc comes into the shot and revives the guy, would do wonders.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 230	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:27:00 - [10] - Quote I thought it was a good article and true. We need honest critiques that highlight the good and the bad.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 75	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:29:00 - [11] - Quote It's a fair review TBH.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 128	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:29:00 - [12] - Quote ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: This game sucks for lone wolfing, but is awesome playing in squads and CCP needs to make this apparent for new players. THIS, also the review itself didnt sounded as bad... maybe a 7/10... sounds realistic. Now lets see another review shall we?
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries 329	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:35:00 - [13] - Quote Quote: Sloppy, imprecise shooter controls Just give us back Chromosome's aiming already...or at least give us the option. Can't aim in an FPS lolwut.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 740	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:36:00 - [14] - Quote ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: CCP really needs to do a better job bringing new players into the fold. This guy was reviewing the game for a major online MMO news/review site, and didn't even join any squads or try getting together with a corporation. Imagine how lost a MMO newb would feel. This game sucks for lone wolfing, but is awesome playing in squads and CCP needs to make this apparent for new players. Preach the truth, brotha! Heck, this game sucks for lone wolfing at 9.5 million SP. I can't imagine what the NPE is like. New players have to do way too much work with their fittings, too. None of the reviews are going to take into account the times that you are stuck with the exact same fittings for months on end while grinding the SP for a proto suit.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 68	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:38:00 - [15] - Quote Phoenix Arakyd wrote: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/15/massivelys-dust-514-launch-impressions/ Quote: Playing EVE on my couch is bizarre. I know, technically it's called DUST 514, but let's be serious. DUST is basically the beginnings of a massive EVE Online expansion if you subscribe to the notion that EVE is a virtual world as opposed to merely a strategy game featuring internet spaceships and internet drama. Well at least the reviewer makes the same stupid mistake of thinking Dust in its current state is anything more then a lobby FPS that all the EvE players here do.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4117	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:40:00 - [16] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I thought it was a good article and true. We need honest critiques that highlight the good and the bad. I rather get a guy who doesn't paint himself as a fanboi of other games and takes every game for itself from the raw. Clearly this guy hates New Eden and doesn't understand it.
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming EoN. 282	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:40:00 - [17] - Quote Ccp didn't pay enough money to the reviewers so we got a bad review. CoD gets 10/10 for the same game released every time because Activision had no problem lining their pockets. This has been proven time and time again with other games too, like dragon age 2
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:40:00 - [18] - Quote The review speaks for what I stand for. I want Dust 514 to prevail, I love the idea of it, but so far it has been launched poorly and new players are definitely going to be intimidated, plus the gameplay isn't interesting really...
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 68	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:41:00 - [19] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: CCP really needs to do a better job bringing new players into the fold. This guy was reviewing the game for a major online MMO news/review site, and didn't even join any squads or try getting together with a corporation. Imagine how lost a MMO newb would feel. This game sucks for lone wolfing, but is awesome playing in squads and CCP needs to make this apparent for new players. Preach the truth, brotha! Heck, this game sucks for lone wolfing at 9.5 million SP. I can't imagine what the NPE is like. New players have to do way too much work with their fittings, too. None of the reviews are going to take into account the times that you are stuck with the exact same fittings for months on end while grinding the SP for a proto suit. I played like 5 matches on my alt in Academy (then I WP capped)....to be honest fighting players with equal gear/sp is more fun then the regular game.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 68	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:47:00 - [20] - Quote Quote: Inadequate keyboard/mouse support Inadequate to what? A PC? Cuz i can't think of any game on the PS3 (or any console for that matter) that has keyboard/mouse support.
Cruor Abominare Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:55:00 - [21] - Quote hooc order wrote: Quote: Inadequate keyboard/mouse support Inadequate to what? A PC? Cuz i can't think of any game on the PS3 (or any console for that matter) that has keyboard/mouse support. He wanted there to be a mouse pointer for the menus, thats actually the whole gripe. I don't really care, i tend to go through most menus without a mouse on the pc anyways, its generally quicker, but Im getting old so I guess the youngins don't.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 408	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:57:00 - [22] - Quote Garrett Whetshaft wrote: Phoenix Arakyd wrote: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05/15/massivelys-dust-514-launch-impressions/ Jef Reahard http://massively.joystiq.com/editor/jef-reahard "He has also covered EverQuest II and Darkfall at length..." Quotes from article: "I've played EVE in some strange places prior to this. In an airport terminal, for example. On my toilet, even " "I'm not sure that DUST qualifies as an MMOFPS. I'd err on the side of no, not really because I've come to realize that games other than PlanetSide, PlanetSide 2, and World War II Online Battleground Europe have no business using the MMOFPS moniker." Take from that what you will.... also: Cons: Dated presentation/visuals Sloppy, imprecise shooter controls Inadequate keyboard/mouse support Future potential tied to EVE Online <<<-----why is this a CON? its as a PRO and it is all about the way you look at it. and I know I hate playing eve so for me it is a CON
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 147	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:59:00 - [23] - Quote It was a fair look Dust. Don't forget, this is written from the perspective of a newbie and only after a days worth of gameplay, it's a first impression and extremely accurate. The things he pointed out that were good or bad, are the same good and bad things we've been talking about for months (or even years I guess). The only point that didn't work was the communication one, he somehow missed that there is free voice chat besides everywhere besides local.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 436	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:01:00 - [24] - Quote hooc order wrote: Knarf Black wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: CCP really needs to do a better job bringing new players into the fold. This guy was reviewing the game for a major online MMO news/review site, and didn't even join any squads or try getting together with a corporation. Imagine how lost a MMO newb would feel. This game sucks for lone wolfing, but is awesome playing in squads and CCP needs to make this apparent for new players. Preach the truth, brotha! Heck, this game sucks for lone wolfing at 9.5 million SP. I can't imagine what the NPE is like. New players have to do way too much work with their fittings, too. None of the reviews are going to take into account the times that you are stuck with the exact same fittings for months on end while grinding the SP for a proto suit. I played like 5 matches on my alt in Academy (then I WP capped)....to be honest fighting players with equal gear/sp is more fun then the regular game. I concur. The academy, being a little bit more balanced than regular pub matches, is actually a lot of fun.
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement 15	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:01:00 - [25] - Quote Garrett Whetshaft wrote: Future potential tied to EVE Online <<<-----why is this a CON? It's both a pro and a con on the list, rightfully so in my opinion.
Infekti0n One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative 31	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:03:00 - [26] - Quote He only played 6 hours? And im supposed to take this review seriously? He should go back playing with Lego's. ****** written review tbh.
FarVision1 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:03:00 - [27] - Quote Garrett Whetshaft wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: CCP really needs to do a better job bringing new players into the fold. This guy was reviewing the game for a major online MMO news/review site, and didn't even join any squads or try getting together with a corporation. Imagine how lost a MMO newb would feel. +1 my thoughts exactly The Academy was screwing up yesterday, so I manually looked for a Merc game. Found one with one spot open and figured what the heck. Full 32 man games. Full corps with full loadouts (heavies, scouts etc). Eve ship stuff from above. Or something coming down from above. Full voice chat with objective callouts. Revives, resupplies, the full experience. It was a thing of beauty. I had felt pretty smug with my 5.1 headset/mic and KB/M on Academy servers. This here - I was getting stomped hard. And it was awesome. Compared to Academy games, it might as well have been two different games.
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 57	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:21:00 - [28] - Quote Infekti0n wrote: He only played 6 hours? And im supposed to take this review seriously? He should go back playing with Lego's. ****** written review tbh. 6 hours is longer than you can expect a new player to spend playing before deciding to keep playing or not. The first few hours of this game are pretty terribad. Nothing about how the game ACTUALLY operates is explained to a new player.
Zahle Undt The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 92	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:22:00 - [29] - Quote The review was pretty fair, but I still smell a hint of PC elitism from the author and definitely from the commenters on the site the article was from. I don't get why SOME PC gamers don't understand that Dust is not on PC because Sony is supporting its development in some way or form and thus they want it exclusive to the PS3 so that Dust helps them sell PS3 and soonsih PS4.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2300	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:24:00 - [30] - Quote Arramakaian Eka wrote: Quote: I love the idea of DUST just as I love the idea of EVE. The actual gameplay isn't particularly compelling, though. It's adequate in most respects, but there's nothing here that you haven't done in a thousand other shooters. This has been and continues to be the biggest drawback of Dust - legitimate concern, as were the list of Cons in his article. Lot of potential but a premature launch. Eve online had a very premature launch. In fact, Eve Online started out with fat less features and limited visuals than how DUST has started now. Yes, it needs work, but that's the whole point of having free updates and constant hotfixes for the next ten years. Just like Eve and just like Rome, DUST was not built in a day.

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