I thought Sony required all fully released games to include trophies. Now is this not a commercial release? Or is it because it is F2P. Microtransactions don't count?

CCP please answer this for us trophy hunters.

WE DO!
WTF is wrong with people nowadays if you don't care doesn't mean others won't in fact trophies provide new experience and challenges to games.

@OP i think there will be trophies because DCUO has and they are basically of the same business model

Its very likely a Soon (tm)

They have to figure out what sort of trophies they can do. Personally im hoping for one that rewards staying in a corp longterm.

Would be a bit of a hit to corp hoppers. hah.

Please go away

if the trophies ctually matterd and gave you a reward for getting them , same with xbox gamerscore they have no value

Who the *#$& cares about trophies. wow...

Please go away

I do.

If you're releasing something on PS3, trophies should be enabled/included. It's a reason to stick with one PSN account. Don't be an ******* just because you couldn't care less about them. Believe it or not, you're not the only one playing.

With all the stuff this game still needs and features that are still on the horizon, the last thing we need them spending Dev time on is worthless trophies that do not add anything to the game as a whole. They provide no benefit other than to provide proof that you got your first sniper kill OWETF else reason you can possibly want with them. Priorities first, then fluff.

Trophies have no place in a game like Dust. Artificially forcing people to play a certain way is a huge no no for CCP.

To you. They have no value to you.

Personally, I use Trophies and achievements as a way to try new things.

if the trophies ctually matterd and gave you a reward for getting them , same with xbox gamerscore they have no value

Sony have guidelines about trophies, one is common sense - You don't put them in a 100% online action game.

Sony have guidelines about trophies, one is common sense - You don't put them in a 100% online action game.

http://extra-credits.net/episodes/achievements/

don't mind me im just leaving this here

Cough cough you mean like MAG which has the rarest platinum the Massive Action Gamer

Sooo...

Achievements were originally a way to show off how involved you were in a game, or how much you had finished. Companies very often use them as a away to keep gamers playing, to get that one last achievement that's just that hard to get. In other words, there's really no point in getting them, apart from the sense of.. well, achievement. Otherwise, you're essentially playing a game for no reward. Not that games need rewards, mind you. They just need to be entertaining.

Now we have a MMORPFPS which rewards you for playing in another way. The more you play, the better the equipment you can wear, and the better you can survive. Not only that, if you're good, and play well with others, you can own your own planet. You get to play the game in any fashion you wish to, within game mechanics, and get the same sense of achievement when you finish conquering a planet, finally get to use that proto weapon, manage to take down another corp through subterfuge (I expect to see this within a year!) or any other type of unforced reward system. I've always found the achievement system way too forced. If I beat the game, why do I have to jump off a building doing a double backflip, and headshot someone on the way down just for 10 points? I'd feel much more satisfaction doing the same thing, but without the achievement system rewarding me for such.

Edit: after posting, I feel like I should clarify that last statement. It meant that I had the originality to look at the game mechanics, struggle through mastering them, and then pull off such a stunt, as opposed to looking at the achievement and thinking "I want that". As opposing to being told what to do and rewarded for it, I'd much rather think of something and do it and be rewarded for it.

For example, in Eve, you don't get rewarded the first time you get into a battleship, or the second, or the hundredth. Being able to pilot a battleship is its own reward. Or Hulkageddon - you're not going to get an achievement for blowing up a mining ship in highsec, but you do it anyway, because it's fun.

MAG , FREE REALMS, AND DCUO all HAVE Trophies....... There are all online only games

I thought Sony required all fully released games to include trophies. Now is this not a commercial release? Or is it because it is F2P. Microtransactions don't count?

CCP please answer this for us trophy hunters.

I thought Sony required all fully released games to include trophies. Now is this not a commercial release? Or is it because it is F2P. Microtransactions don't count?

CCP please answer this for us trophy hunters.

here we go:
I give you a high five as trophy if you manage to kill 11 suit in real battle with the scrambler pistol without a reload.

eve online has "credentials"

They are eve online's achievements/trophies . So suck it. Hull tanking "

Also you can create your own Trophies using the ingame decoration tool. Yes I'm ******* serious, internet spaceships man, serious business

like it might start doing this

eve online has "credentials"

They are eve online's achievements/trophies . So suck it. Hull tanking "

Also you can create your own Trophies using the ingame decoration tool. Yes I'm ******* serious, internet spaceships man, serious business

MAG , FREE REALMS, AND DCUO all HAVE Trophies....... There are all online only games

I too think achievements and trophies are pointless but they do have a place in most (if not all) games highly so if they get you to play out of your gaming confront zone or such (for those who haven't, watch the video in full and lets start a proper tread on why and why not this game should not have trophies besides being pointless)

People have become so jaded. It's points, like in megaman 1 or other old school video games. It's simple and takes nothing but a dev with a pen and paper to put into the game. Yes points do nothing, your score at the end of turtles in time means nothing, but doesn't it feel good to have a higher score than your friend? yes, yes it does.

I refuse to lose my childlike wonder <3

can't think of many more

I'd like a "To Dust" Trophy, die so many times in a row, or get a higher deathstreak than your killstreak.

I don't care about trophies either. CCP and Sony have more important things to worry about than trophies.

I think there was big wp idea thread but I cant find it but they not turn some of in trophies https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=774553#post774553


although im working on a bigger list here some of mine

nice job breaking it soldier!----blowing up a supply depot, CRA or vehicle as its getting hacked by a team mate

everybody knows your run faster with a knife!-------10 (or so) consecutive kills with just the nova knifes

dude, my LAV's new paint job-----run over more then 15 enemy merc's

Sony have guidelines about trophies, one is common sense - You don't put them in a 100% online action game.

Trophies are fun they provide in game challenges and bragging rights among your friends. It also shows you are a true gamer.

I am a trophy w hore and I REALLY want trophies and the Vita app BUT I want CCP to fix all the issue first and extras second.

everybody knows your run faster with a knife!-------10 (or so) consecutive kills with just the nova knifes

I think people who are rejecting trophy support are mostly likely PC gamers, we PS3 gamers love that glorious sounds when a trophy pop-up also it really provide in-game challenges and immersion

I agree to a point if done right trophies are great way for current players for try new ways of playing and bring in new players to the game if done wrong like most of time its like giving a kid a gold star for real reason....

The trophy system has no facility to dynamically update itself as new features enter the game - the Lumines Vita screwup proved this, as the game accidentally released without a Platinum and there was nothing they could do to re-add it. The only way you can put more trophies into a game is with expansion packs, and that doesn't really fit with Dust's development style. Most importantly, right now, Dust clearly doesn't have enough of the game implemented to make even a basic trophy list.

I literally just told you they can't just 'toss a platty' out there. You have to use your full point allocation for the initial release, so 30-50 trophies depending on how you split it up between bronze/silver/gold, and then after that only expansions. No going back and changing one that no longer applies or doesn't make sense when the game gets a major rework patch. CCP don't have the same flexibility with the trophy system like they do being able to patch and grow the game independent of PSN.

Trophies are a nice bonus feature, but Dust isn't ready for them yet and the devs are busy with a whole bunch of other real/important/relevant issues that need to be fixed to make the game work right. When they're ready to call upon the OCD brigade, they can push a trophy update out and let all the handwashers grind for their Sony-branded rat pellets.

[quote=Snaps Tremor]I literally just told you they can't just 'toss a platty' out there. You have to use your full point allocation for the initial release, so 30-50 trophies depending on how you split it up between bronze/silver/gold, and then after that only expansions. No going back and changing one that no longer applies or doesn't make sense when the game gets a major rework patch. CCP don't have the same flexibility with the trophy system like they do being able to patch and grow the game independent of PSN.

Trophies are a nice bonus feature, but Dust isn't ready for them yet and the devs are busy with a whole bunch of other real/important/relevant issues that need to be fixed to make the game work right. When they're ready to call upon the OCD brigade, they can push a trophy update out and let all the handwashers grind for their Sony-branded rat pellets.

Sorry I dont entirely believe your statements.

I believe there are alot of different options for the trophy system, I understand the point allocation system with gold silver bronze and platty, but alot of online games release a ton of trophies post launch, so I dont see why we couldnt get a platty say 1 year from now.

What about no platty on the first batch then adding the platty after say the 4th expansion. Regardless trophies are and have been added after the first batch was released upon launch.

I remember mag releasing like 20 trophies (on top of the 50 from launch) like 8 months after launch. They had some golds too, how do you explain the point allocation for further expansion trophies? Borderlands 1 had 81 trophies.

I don't give a damn about trophies. They are of no use to me.

Well thanks for the bump anyhow.

MAG , FREE REALMS, AND DCUO all HAVE Trophies....... There are all online only games

DCUO and free realms have trophies yes, but not the f2p version. You have to be a subscriber in order to activate trophies.
Dust has no subscription, therefore no trophies.
If they came out with a subscription model on top of the f2p model THEN there would be trophies for the subscription model.
And as far as MAG goes, it wasn't a free game....you had to BUY it, therefore it has trophies because its not a free game. Online only yes, free no.

Why Trophies? We should be doing what steam is, trading cards.

Free games don't have trophies.

DCUO is an exception because when it came out, IT WASN'T FREE.

FreeRealms is basically a test platform for DCUO's Free-To-Play model, so it had to have trophies or it wouldn't have been a viable test.

So this is obviously why Iron Wolf Sabre was asking if and what people would be willing to pay for a subscription. So I guess we need to pay for trophies in the sence of a release sale, equalling $60. Otherwise F2P will never get trophies.

So I say CCP set a precedence and give us trophies based on the microtransactions each player has paid for, and if the players total was over $60 then the trophies would be unlocked as well as a multitude of other options for being a valued customer.

I know alot of people have spent alot more than $60 and they have really nothing to show for it besides a few bpo's. Why not reward players who have funded the game with a subscription/award system with items like the trophies unlocked.

Like I stated above, what if there was a subscription model? Could/would there be a possible implementation at that point?

Worth considering I do believe, especially if the state of the game needs more exposure.

So I guess we need to pay for trophies in the sence of a release sale, equalling $60. Otherwise F2P will never get trophies.

Could there be a sub with trophies? Yes.
Is there likely to be? Possibly. Not sure.
Is it needed? Not really, no.
Is it urgent? Most definitely not.

But yes, it may be something for CCP to look at somewhere down the line.

Rather than just PSN trophies (which I do agree should be in here, ESPECIALLY since it is advertised as a PSN game), I would like for CEO's to be able to create(for a price) and give out medals to members that can be displayed or kept private like in EVE.

Rather than just PSN trophies (which I do agree should be in here, ESPECIALLY since it is advertised as a PSN game), I would like for CEO's to be able to create(for a price) and give out medals to members that can be displayed or kept private like in EVE.

I literally just told you they can't just 'toss a platty' out there. You have to use your full point allocation for the initial release, so 30-50 trophies depending on how you split it up between bronze/silver/gold, and then after that only expansions. No going back and changing one that no longer applies or doesn't make sense when the game gets a major rework patch. CCP don't have the same flexibility with the trophy system like they do being able to patch and grow the game independent of PSN.

Trophies are a nice bonus feature, but Dust isn't ready for them yet and the devs are busy with a whole bunch of other real/important/relevant issues that need to be fixed to make the game work right. When they're ready to call upon the OCD brigade, they can push a trophy update out and let all the handwashers grind for their Sony-branded rat pellets.

Because DCUO's $20 sub that gets your trophies totals up to $60.

And Journey is a $60 game. It must be, because it has trophies.

bump

I love how All pc guys couldnt give a schit about trophies.

Remember this IS a ps3 game and trophies are part of Sony, not Steam.

They could be good.
A trophy hunter could dl it just for trophies, find out he likes the game and give CCP monies!!
Maybe anyway. Not sure what trophies could be added though

Update: We do have trophies planned for future updates.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&p=2

Cough cough you mean like MAG which has the rarest platinum the Massive Action Gamer

Damn straight , also PS2 even has them doesn't it?

Now come on CCP, deliver your "AAA" shooter experience

because right now polish is lacking

Doesn't getting 100 platinum trophies get you something?