u guys are still trying to get logis nerfed? ccp must be contemplating eating a bullet. what next? SMGs? Re nerf nova knives? theres not much left for u to ruin. lets nerf the MCC so skirm dont take so long. lets nerf scouts speed. lets nerf the repair gun so it has to be touching the player healed. we shud nerf melee so it actually hurts ur elbow. we cud nerf the assaulty suit so it only has one arm(.Lets see em reload then). this is the reason uprising sucks so bad. sissies afraid of logis n lasers and mass drivers and forge guns and tanks and lavs and HMGs and....... hell why even play?

Sorry if this point has already been made but I was getting too angry to read any furher through this thread but here goes.

I ran logi in the last build and continued in this much to my regret, first off the logi I'm using "Gallente" is anything but overpowered, why?

1) Yes I can fit lots of armour and other mods but I die faster than anyone else in my squad because the enemy focuses on me 1st leaving me needing to rejoin squad in a slow suit and usually out in the open. I dont know about the experience of other logis but I feel like something of a bullet magnet in so much as if I step into the open I get hit from somewhere instantly.

2) As a pure logi my k/d ratio is around 0.79 from last build this one its around 0.4, the isk rewards for me have dropped from around 200k isk per battle on average, with an advanced logi suit, 2 enhanced armour plates and 1 enhanced repper, any advanced weapon only if I fit enhanced light damage me mods ( essential if i stand any chance of defending myself) and all support eqpmt is militia blueprints it costs me 40k per death so any more than 3 and im bleeding isk. At the minute I die between 4-8 times per match either through gimped spawns or just getting nailed trying to get back to my squad with no speed to speak of.

3) I believe the hitbox on the logi to be around the same as a heavy so im kinda like a militia heavy but had to spend big on mods to get there, oh and im bright yellow, with no sidearm to switch to when I empty the clip so am forced to wait for reload.

So able to do a lot in terms of fitting yes but this is expensive, the role means you die a lot, this means something has to give but I dont think gimping the logi any more will help anyone. Anyone who wants the logi nerfed obviously never runs consistently with one or has run as one. Im not saying they're aren't some very good fps'ers using the logi suit cos if you can run it well, I would put it just behind a HAV for WP earning potential but the same goes for potential isk losses and frailties without good squad support.

Anyone skilling into CALDARI Logi right now should be comfortable with playing an equipment and support role. If you aren't, and you're just picking it because a forum post outed it as the flavour of the month, you'd better brace for disappointment and start learning the lesson most Eve players learnt the hard way a decade ago. Pick the general role you want to play, and don't get hung up on the hard figures, because they will change a lot to put the class where it needs to be as the game evolves.

Would be nice to have more equipment slots in exchange of some high/low slots, while keeping the ability to use light weapons. Bonuses focusing more on support role would also help a lot.

Protos aside, I hope CCP take a look at ADV tier as well, because Amarr Logi ADV is very disappointing, as it has only 2 equipment slots and no side arm. I would happily trade 1 low for an extra equipment slot. Running proto full time to have the basic 3 equipment slots is a no go for most players I guess.

So for example you are saying: Medics on the Frontline should only be given minimal survive-ability. In modern military's would you expect them to send them medics in with a pistol and say good luck keep our guys alive. Military medics are sometimes the best equipped soldiers on the battlefield because they can't save someone if they can't protect themselves.

Nice information but personally I believe the only suit that really got stuffed was the amarr medium frames because every other frame has 7 module slots as opposed to amarrs having 6 again I don't understand the thinking behind it considering the amarrs racial benefits are the worst of all

a lot of people I know say they like the extra repair both in usefulness and lore.

I thought a logi was a combat medic! Combat being the first roll he should play until he fire fight is over. If you survive then its your job to resupply, pick up or repair your squad mates. At least that's how I roll

That's not exactly true, we have war laws the protect medics so long as they properly identify themselves. They also mostly only carry sidearms, in case they run into someone who doesn't respect those laws.

That said, "shoot the medic" always applies in Dust.

Medics are my primary targets, cause if they survive then the squad gets revived.

That's not exactly true, we have war laws the protect medics so long as they properly identify themselves. They also mostly only carry sidearms, in case they run into someone who doesn't respect those laws.

That said, "shoot the medic" always applies in Dust.

However, the enemies faced by professional armies in more recent conflicts are often insurgents who either do not recognize the Geneva Convention, or do not care, and readily engage all personnel, irrespective of noncombatant status. For this reason, most modern combat medics are armed combatants who do not wear distinguishing markings.[7] Combat Medics in the United States Army and United States Navy Hospital Corpsman are virtually indistinguishable from regular combat troops, except for the extra medical equipment they carry.

With a combat unit, they function as a member of an infantry platoon up until the point that one of their comrades is wounded. Therefore, the Medic carries basically what a Rifleman or any other soldier carries. His Basic Equipment is usually:

An M4 rifle and in some units an M9 pistol.
A MOLLE Vest with a full "combat load," being (most often) 210 rounds for the M-4/M-16 rifle.
An IBA or Interceptor Body Armor, now being phased out in favor for the newer IOTV;
The Army Combat Uniform;
An ACH, or Advanced Combat Helmet.

I agree with this logic. The logi should be primaried, so already have a target on our backs already. The bright suits make it easy mode as it is more of a homing beacon now.

Now please, before anything. I do NOT support a logi nerf. I'm a assault player and I have as much a problemkilling logis as any other class. The hp regain can be annoying AT MOST. Thats it, slightly annoying.

Problem is, I seem to be the minority so you guys may get a nerf.

So before it happens, lets collect some data on how we can fix the "problem" with logi suits proactively.

Lets get a discussion going and hit this one head on.