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first don't change the weapon from a light to a side arm that's going to devalue the suit if they cant properly defend them selfs, and then people will simply opted for doing half a logis role as a assault with one equipment.

second knock off some slots a suit designed around using its equipment doesn't need that many slots to do its job.

third buff nanohives and fix injectors

remove any bonuses to tank and change them to something more in line with the logicitics role

DONT touch their PG/CPU or Armor/Shieldfor the love of god CCP just reduce the number of slots and change the bonuses around, dont do anything else. don't get creative or get any more bright ideas make one change at a time and see how that works, for once.

Just add so that shield extenders will have some drawback (increases profile) and/or stacking penalty. I think CCP want to do this in the future. Then people cannot abuse shield extenders together with the shield bonus on the caldari logistics dropsuit. I guess this is the "fix" we will see to this problem.

Removing light weapon from logi is a ridiculous idea.

Armor plates = - 3/5/10% movement speed
Shield extenders = ?????

Shields need a larger scan signature and sufficiently larger hit-box for every extender you put on. The hit box can go back down to the suit's respective frame size when it depletes. That way, caldari logibees will be easy targets.

This I mean I have yet to see anyone complain the Gal/Min/Amarr logi's are overpowered. So its obvious which the problem is which I think its mainly due to people who used to be former assault VK1 shield stackers now switching to the logi version for the extra shields. I mean if I stack armour on my Gal logi no one seems to care because it has a downside whereas having the extra shields from extenders has no downside then couple that with the extra HP per level of logi and still no downsides and you get a suit with all ups and no downs.

So my solution is change the Cal logi bonus to some kind of support bonus lengthen the shield regeneration time for the logi suits a little and add some kind of downside to shield extenders.

I think we need a "Should we adjust the the CALDARI logi and assaults bonusses?"-thread

i guess you never try to clear the area before you revive people ? Not point on reviving someone, if they just going to get kill immediately ...

I need a good weapon and good shields to do a " Good " Logi job... other hows, i'm more useful as a Repair / Assault class.

The logi class can stay as it is, but give it a +25% malus to CPU and PG requirement of weapons.

That means a logi can absolutely fit an advanced light weapon, but it severely impacts his ability to fit a tank or equipment. A logi suit would then generally have to chose between a lower tier light weapon or a higher tier sidearm to make his fittings work.

Riiiight, and the other racial suits can continue to suck? Caldari assaults must really like that reload bonus, huh?

I shouldn't have to give up anything, I already had to give up ~1.8 million SP and unlock an assault VK.0 I'm probably never going to use just to get into the damn suit. Want to know what the better question is? What would you need changed in your own respective class suits and weapons to make you want to go back to them?

I don't get the idea behind logi's just having sidearms. How can I get the range? I run Caldari logi, but I'm only in a type one. If I could I would go Galente in a heartbeat. I like the slots because I can put biotics in my lows. Honestly I've yet to run into a logisault yet. Instead of crying nerf, other suits should be buffed & give better bonuses.

Assaults, specialise in killing, yes? Give them a damage bonus! Maybe 2% per racial level? That way proto's get a inbuilt complex damage mod that doesn't need fitting, logi's get an inbuilt complex repper at level 5, so why not?

Heavies, meant to take a beating like no other. Slam them a damage reduction bonus! That makes them walking tanks, as intended. Not just a fatsuit to hold a heavy weapon. I'm sure the fatties would appriciate a 3% bonus per level.

Scouts, I'm. Not sure of to be honest. Anyone got input on this?

Nothing... absolutely nothing.

Fix the caldari logi bonus and change the assault bonus to something more meaningful, that is ALL that is needed. I think CCP knows this too.

If they kitten over the logi class by removing slots or our weapon, its gonna be the end of the logi class for sure.. and the only viable suit will be the assault suit.

Sidearm as primary... what a joke..

Since we're suggesting equally stupid suggestions like total nerfs of a class, I say we just give logis the only equipment slots in the game.Thats a horrible idea but a few of you might like it

Come on people we need to stop complaining about the things killing us.Sure some things are OP but you don't fix that by destroying an entire piece of the game you tweak it a bit if anything and on a specific case by case basis.At the end if Chromosome everything was almost perfectly balanced, but at the beginning of Uprising Heavies were destroyed .Fine they were nerfed , but at that time they could easily be brought back , but with everyone crying nerf and OP you guys are destroying the game.Just look at how crappy and unbalanced things are now.All thats left untouched are the assault suits and ARs and that is a huge imbalance

Anyway, I digress. Logis need only to have their high and low slots decreased.

Wrong. Assaults will only ever have 1 equipment slot, that isn't going to cut it when things get tense. There will still be a demand for logis.


Right now a corporation could go into Planetary Conquest with everyone playing logistics and sweep the floor. That's when you know something is wrong. Fixing the Caldari bonus alone won't change that.

Logi being the only suit able to use medium slots which affect how the logi works as a support class.

Repair Triage enhancers
Shield Booster Systems for allies
Nanite Boosters

etc so logis can tank the way they like but not over do it, they can equip the hack and damage mods while being balanced, and tailor their suit to a specific role like better heals or other scanning jobs.

E.g- Caldari Logi Suits now has 3 Highs, 3 Lows, 3 Mediums