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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:52:00 -
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We are pleased to announce that we have just concluded a lengthy meeting with a considerable portion of the Dust514 community and development teams, as well as upper management such as Executive Producer CCP Jian and Creative Director CCP Praetorian.
It was an opportunity not only to cover the the most urgent issues surrounding Uprising's deployment, but also to review the steps that CCP will be taking in the immediate future in order to fix some of the unexpected results that occured from Uprising's migration onto Tranquility. We also discussed many ways that CCP can ensure that you, the players and beta testers, receive more timely and comprehensive information about what exactly is being worked on (and why).
The contents of this meeting are being drafted up for release by CCP CommanderWang and CCP Frame, and will be posted shortly so that the public is in the loop with the CPM and CCP as to what took place. Rest assured this meeting was comprehensive GÇô while the nitty gritty details will be hammered out in the days ahead, everything from general dissatisfaction with item balancing, to input issues, to the frustrations we've all shared with the new skill tree were discussed extensively.
The CPM is satisfied with CCP's timely and focused effort to take care of these issues in the days and weeks ahead, and we expect this to play out here in the forums as well. The CPM was adamant that with increased level of information and clarity, unnecessary noise can be reduced to that the best of your ideas reach the people they need to reach inside the development circle. This is in fact our primary purpose for existing in the first place GÇô if we've done our jobs right, you'll be seeing more from CCP than you have in the past, and have more opportunities to give specific feedback in places you know you'll be heard, and see evidence of this as CCP continues to roll out fixes and updates to the game.
Not everything everyone would like to see will be ready by the 14th, lets be perfectly clear here GÇô but the reason that the CPM asked for this meeting to begin with was to ensure there was both resources and process were in place to take care of the things we've noticed as issues between our Fanfest playtest, and what we've seen since Uprising's initial deployment on Tranquility.
We appreciate everyone's patience while you await further news, but we feel it is important for you to know that the community's concerns are being heard at the highest levels thanks to your representatives on the CPM. We also strongly encourage you to continue to send us your repeatable bugs, balancing advice, and other suggestions for us to use in our talks with CCP in order to expedite the process of improvement.
-The Council of Planetary Management
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Iron Wolf Saber Jenza Aranda Kane Spero Laurent Cazaderon Nova Knife
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:55:00 -
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+1 |
ZiwZih
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:55:00 -
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We are pleased, too. |
PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:57:00 -
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Thank you CPM & CCP. Great news. |
MarakPS3 Daga
Bojo's School of the Trades
40
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:57:00 -
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looking forward to some communication resulting from this! |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:58:00 -
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i have mixed feeling about this.
this sounds too good to be true, what made CCP turn a 180 degree to their attitude? is this just an RP exercise? soon (tm) we shall find out (when things get fixed) |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1019
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:00:00 -
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Imma wait to see the notes before i judge
But as a vehicle user who feels that he has been literally ****** over with uprising im pretty pissed off atm so for me it will take a damn miracle to be happy |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:01:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:i have mixed feeling about this.
this sounds too good to be true, what made CCP turn a 180 degree to their attitude? is this just an RP exercise? soon (tm) we shall find out (when things get fixed)
Probably has to do with the fact they have a focused group to talk to rather then people raging in threads. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1458
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:02:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:We are pleased to announce that we have just concluded a lengthy meeting with a considerable portion of the Dust514 community and development teams, as well as upper management such as Executive Producer CCP Jian and Creative Director CCP Praetorian.
It was an opportunity not only to cover the the most urgent issues surrounding Uprising's deployment, but also to review the steps that CCP will be taking in the immediate future in order to fix some of the unexpected results that occured from Uprising's migration onto Tranquility. We also discussed many ways that CCP can ensure that you, the players and beta testers, receive more timely and comprehensive information about what exactly is being worked on (and why).
The contents of this meeting are being drafted up for release by CCP CommanderWang and CCP Frame, and will be posted shortly so that the public is in the loop with the CPM and CCP as to what took place. Rest assured this meeting was comprehensive GÇô while the nitty gritty details will be hammered out in the days ahead, everything from general dissatisfaction with item balancing, to input issues, to the frustrations we've all shared with the new skill tree were discussed extensively.
The CPM is satisfied with CCP's timely and focused effort to take care of these issues in the days and weeks ahead, and we expect this to play out here in the forums as well. The CPM was adamant that with increased level of information and clarity, unnecessary noise can be reduced to that the best of your ideas reach the people they need to reach inside the development circle. This is in fact our primary purpose for existing in the first place GÇô if we've done our jobs right, you'll be seeing more from CCP than you have in the past, and have more opportunities to give specific feedback in places you know you'll be heard, and see evidence of this as CCP continues to roll out fixes and updates to the game.
Not everything everyone would like to see will be ready by the 14th, lets be perfectly clear here GÇô but the reason that the CPM asked for this meeting to begin with was to ensure there was both resources and process were in place to take care of the things we've noticed as issues between our Fanfest playtest, and what we've seen since Uprising's initial deployment on Tranquility.
We appreciate everyone's patience while you await further news, but we feel it is important for you to know that the community's concerns are being heard at the highest levels thanks to your representatives on the CPM. We also strongly encourage you to continue to send us your repeatable bugs, balancing advice, and other suggestions for us to use in our talks with CCP in order to expedite the process of improvement.
-The Council of Planetary Management
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Iron Wolf Saber Jenza Aranda Kane Spero Laurent Cazaderon Nova Knife
Good to hear!
Looking forward to hearing more from you guys. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
237
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:02:00 -
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good to see this, good for everyone.
I for one am pleased to see our CPM is being diligent and is forging a strong relationship with the programmers that DO have the power to modify the game in the best interests of everyone. That is the entire point of 'beta' testing anyway. In the past few days I have seen more constructive correspondence between players and devs, and undoubtedly some of that credit has to go to our CPM. keep it up and we can all have hope our grand vision we share with CCP about dust will happen!! |
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:03:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:i have mixed feeling about this.
this sounds too good to be true, what made CCP turn a 180 degree to their attitude? is this just an RP exercise? soon (tm) we shall find out (when things get fixed) Probably has to do with the fact they have a focused group to talk to rather then people raging in threads.
You nailed it. |
Still blazn
BLaQ Heavy CORP
6
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:05:00 -
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And after all this "serious" discussion was the decision made to rollback all the WEapon stats to previous build? Because this is the ONLY way to fix this..
Start there then make small adjustments to what needs work..
But im guessing it will be some halfway stealth buff for heavies, while the rest stays the same? |
grreen mctree
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:05:00 -
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Give it up fella, dust is dead. If you can't see that you obviously have poor judgement and imo are not fit to represent ANY community. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1380
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:06:00 -
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Reserved |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
388
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:07:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:
We appreciate everyone's patience while you await further news, but we feel it is important for you to know that the community's concerns are being heard at the highest levels thanks to your representatives on the CPM.
-The Council of Planetary Management
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Iron Wolf Saber Jenza Aranda Kane Spero Laurent Cazaderon Nova Knife
If the CPM truly intends to represent the Dust community then I would hope that they recognize the recent groundswell of support for a SP respec on the 14th of May.
I would ask that each member publicly support the recent player's initiative to get this done.
Thanks. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
9
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:11:00 -
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Just leave it alone at this point. Every thing got nerfed and people will get use to it. We will never get to know the strengths and weakness of gear if they are constantly making major changes to them. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
231
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:12:00 -
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Still blazn wrote:And after all this "serious" discussion was the decision made to rollback all the WEapon stats to previous build? Because this is the ONLY way to fix this..
Start there then make small adjustments to what needs work..
But im guessing it will be some halfway stealth buff for heavies, while the rest stays the same?
Frankly I can speak for the entire council in that we are sick of "stealth" anything, really. All changes made should be transparently and openly, with a chance for your input before final decisions are made. Obviously this has not been the case in the past, and that's why we are at where we are at today in terms of game balance, but we've made it clear to CCP that it needs to be this way in the future. Getting there will take time, but I think the message was received loud and clear. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
231
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:18:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:
We appreciate everyone's patience while you await further news, but we feel it is important for you to know that the community's concerns are being heard at the highest levels thanks to your representatives on the CPM.
-The Council of Planetary Management
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Iron Wolf Saber Jenza Aranda Kane Spero Laurent Cazaderon Nova Knife
If the CPM truly intends to represent the Dust community then I would hope that they recognize the recent groundswell of support for a SP respec on the 14th of May. I would ask that each member publicly support the recent player's initiative to get this done. Thanks.
I'll be the first to start. You'll be happy to know that a full respec as part of an adjustment to the skill tree in order to reduce the overall SP requirement back in the direction of Chromosome-level train times was actually one of the primary "must-do" items on the CPM's agenda. Not only that, I think there is a strong possibility that we will see this, and see this within the month. No promises or dates here yet - but based on the positive reception from CCP I think this is quite likely at this point, enough to say so publicly. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
583
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:22:00 -
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I'm glad that CCP formed the CPM this early in the process so that players have someone to represent their concerns. Lack of timely, comprehensive and accurate information is definitely my number one concern. |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
134
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:24:00 -
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Ill believe it when I see it. The ignorance CCP has shown with Uprising is extraordinary. All they had to do was take Chromosome and add stuff to it, but no. They just had to go and change the entire core of the game and kept us misinformed about what they were doing the whole way. |
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Cybus Trama'dol
EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition
11
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:29:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:SoLJae wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:
We appreciate everyone's patience while you await further news, but we feel it is important for you to know that the community's concerns are being heard at the highest levels thanks to your representatives on the CPM.
-The Council of Planetary Management
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Iron Wolf Saber Jenza Aranda Kane Spero Laurent Cazaderon Nova Knife
If the CPM truly intends to represent the Dust community then I would hope that they recognize the recent groundswell of support for a SP respec on the 14th of May. I would ask that each member publicly support the recent player's initiative to get this done. Thanks. I'll be the first to start. You'll be happy to know that a full respec following an adjustment to the skill tree in order to reduce the overall SP requirement back in the direction of Chromosome-level train times was actually one of the primary "must-do" items on the CPM's agenda. Not only that, I think there is a strong possibility that we will see this, and see this within the month. No promises or dates here yet - but based on the positive reception from CCP I think this is quite likely at this point, enough to say so publicly. Thats great news, can you give us any info on whats happening with the MAG tribute BPO's for the people who bought them full price on the market and now cant use them. |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
392
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:30:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:SoLJae wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:
We appreciate everyone's patience while you await further news, but we feel it is important for you to know that the community's concerns are being heard at the highest levels thanks to your representatives on the CPM.
-The Council of Planetary Management
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Iron Wolf Saber Jenza Aranda Kane Spero Laurent Cazaderon Nova Knife
If the CPM truly intends to represent the Dust community then I would hope that they recognize the recent groundswell of support for a SP respec on the 14th of May. I would ask that each member publicly support the recent player's initiative to get this done. Thanks. I'll be the first to start. You'll be happy to know that a full respec following an adjustment to the skill tree in order to reduce the overall SP requirement back in the direction of Chromosome-level train times was actually one of the primary "must-do" items on the CPM's agenda. Not only that, I think there is a strong possibility that we will see this, and see this within the month. No promises or dates here yet - but based on the positive reception from CCP I think this is quite likely at this point, enough to say so publicly.
Thanks for your support! |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
584
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:39:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen:
With a rebalancing of skill rankings and overall SP cost can you push for an accurate data dump that includes prerequisites with at least a week of lead time so that the community has time to build tools, analyze data and provide guidance so that we don't have the same issues as on Uprising release day? What they provided the day before was a fair start. It just needed some work to be useful. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
448
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:39:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Ill believe it when I see it. The ignorance CCP has shown with Uprising is extraordinary. All they had to do was take Chromosome and add stuff to it, but no. They just had to go and change the entire core of the game and kept us misinformed about what they were doing the whole way. I am not in the know, but perhaps the core of the game needed to change in order to allow for future expansion and vision. I am not saying that this build if perfect as we all know it has issues. Simply put, just adding stuff on to a base is not always the best idea. Ex: if you have a house, you cannot keep pilling stuff ontop of (adding levels/floors) the house because the house's infrastructure cannot support the weight of a 5 story house. So you need to go in and rebuilding the foundation, the core of the house so that future upgrades and additions are stable.
Just a guess. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
237
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:47:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen:
With a rebalancing of skill rankings and overall SP cost can you push for an accurate data dump that includes prerequisites with at least a week of lead time so that the community has time to build tools, analyze data and provide guidance so that we don't have the same issues as on Uprising release day? What they provided the day before was a fair start. It just needed some work to be useful.
This was another thing we absolutely pushed for as part of our agenda in the meeting, and which CCP agreed to look into. In our opinion, there shouldn't be a single number or statistic that isn't publicly posted knowledge in a form we can make the most of, and we believe that all changes to those statistics should be posted in advance. Always. We also mentioned specifically what you just did regarding the community's ability to build all kinds of tools and analyze the data if only we had a spreadsheet of the values. Consider this one already vouched for, and strongly. |
Liner ReXiandra
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:47:00 -
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Dust 514 could use some of CCP Unifex' magic touch atm. |
MarakPS3 Daga
Bojo's School of the Trades
40
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:51:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen:
With a rebalancing of skill rankings and overall SP cost can you push for an accurate data dump that includes prerequisites with at least a week of lead time so that the community has time to build tools, analyze data and provide guidance so that we don't have the same issues as on Uprising release day? What they provided the day before was a fair start. It just needed some work to be useful.
QFT.
seriously, this so much.
i assume part of the conversation was asking why the changes wernt run past the players (you know the most knowledgeable about the game between the two groups).
Im happy for the respec and sp adjusting news, thats bloody great and has made the council earn my respect . |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
238
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:57:00 -
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Liner ReXiandra wrote:Dust 514 could use some of CCP Unifex' magic touch atm.
Actually what this meeting has demonstrated to me is that CCP Jian is every bit as willing to roll up his sleeves and do what needs to be done to get development on the right track. He was the one I asked to meet with us because he's in the position of authority needed to make sure this process improves, and he's been very appreciative and supportive of the CPM during this time. CCP Jian took an extra 45 minutes beyond the allotted meeting time to go through our issues line-by-line and make sure we didn't walk away without making sure that everything was being addressed in some form, sooner or later.
And don't get me wrong, Unifex is a great guy too - but he's never stayed 45 minutes extra in a Skype meeting nor has he ever brought the entourage with him that Jian did this morning. Rest assured you have every bit the same level of professionalism being demonstrated here, Dust514 is in good hands now and I'm excited to work together with Jian in the future. He was very respectful of the CPM's concerns and took our criticism in stride. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2852
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:06:00 -
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This is really good to hear, wish I could have sat in on that meeting. Keep up the good work, this is definitely a step in the right direction for both CPM and CCP.
Now if only you had someone there to repeatedly prod them about dropship rewards :p |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
6
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:09:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: I'll be the first to start. You'll be happy to know that a full respec following an adjustment to the skill tree in order to reduce the overall SP requirement back in the direction of Chromosome-level train times was actually one of the primary "must-do" items on the CPM's agenda. Not only that, I think there is a strong possibility that we will see this, and see this within the month. No promises or dates here yet - but based on the positive reception from CCP I think this is quite likely at this point, enough to say so publicly.
Great news! Even if nothing comes from it, it's good to know the community's voice is being represented, and that CCP is at least *willing* to listen. Can't really ask for more than that.
It's just icing on the cake that their reception to the idea was a good one. |
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