you keep getting caught with your pants down(injector/rep tool out) in a firefight. doesn't change the FACT that caldari logi's have bar none the highest non-vehicular, non-installation shields.

assault's shields come back faster to allow them to get into the fight after they get shot. logi's are so high that they don't have to worry about getting shot in the first place.

In fact, that could be your problem as well, you get used to having kitten-tons of shields, so you just try to power through and when they go down, you panic and die.

or, you're so busy looking to assist a team mate that you're simply not being as aggressive as you were with an assault.

I went minmatar scout. my KD has risen, and those kills are with kittening knives and nades.(more knives than nades at this point) what's your excuse?

Not 100% sure, i'll check later ... But is much, much higher.

and please, tell me all about how you rez soooooo many mercs. I've gotten 2 revives in the last 3 days. both were from squad members who had trouble locating my corpse even with the marker. I see "triage unit nearby" every ****ing time I go down, and when I signal, then they simply run away from me.

well the caldari logi can get up to and between 622 - 667 Shield HP, depending on how stacking works, the Dedicated Assault can get up to 563 shield HP +-

Dont forget the logies dont need Armor Reps modules so the proto logi has an extra slot the assault has to use to rep himself..and if he wanted could get around 600 hp armor, but he would be a turtle, say 2 armor plates & 2 kintic movement modules to counter the speed, so the caldari logi is sitting at around 1k hp or 1.2k turtle version.

Its doubtfull, that an assault with 600 hp can take it down when 1 Vs 1 it.

Caldari prototype assault base HP 210/120 w/ maxed skills it's: 262.5/150
Caldari prototype logistic base HP 180/90 w/ maxed skills it's: 225/112.5

bases start lower for logistics suit. we will be assuming full skills for the purposes of this comparison.

Pertinent Slots: 4H3L assault, 5H4L logistics.

maximum stackable(assuming bonus is only from extension related skill and suit bonus stacking additively to 35% in the logi's favor{base skill to 5 alongside the extra 25% extension bonus of the caldari logi suit, ignoring the 25% shield skill that improved the bases.} leaving the assault with 10%{base skill for extenders to 5})

assault: 552.9/529.5
logistics: 670.5/618.5

Rounded up.
A:553/530
L:671/619

difference: 118/89 with 5 hp/s standard repair on armor in the logi's favor.

And how that compares to the Heavy max Hp ?... or is this an attack to the assault dropsuits, and not just the Logi's ?

And how that compares to the Heavy max Hp ?... or is this an attack to the assault dropsuits, and not just the Logi's ?

sentinel base w/ passives: 506.25/506.25

slots: 1H4L

sentinel maxed: 578.85/1012.25

rounded

579/1012

logistic HP: 671/619
sentinel HP: 579/1012

difference: -92/+393

sentinel heavy has significantly greater armor points. enough to replace a high slot with a rep and maintain higher EHP/ or a pocket logi if they just want to stack armor.

Just a question: Are you guys just annoyed by the Caldari logi suit or also the other races? If so do you think there is a solution that only affects the Caldari one or does the Assault specialization suck so hard maybe?

Are the more anti-shield focussed weapons going to change this?

Too Eskel Bondfrees solution: What's the point of the Amarr logi then?

Too Eskel Bondfrees solution: What's the point of the Amarr logi then?

The issue isn't even the Cal slots (though I still think 5/4/3 is kind of ridiculous. Give them the reverse of Gall and 5/3/3 or something)

The issue is the +5% bonus to Shield Extender Modules which is a straight % boost on those pushing the Complex from 66 shield to 82.5 per module at lvl5 Cal Logi, of which they can load up five, as stated.

What's the point of the Amarr logi then?

Why CCP made logi's the best combat unit has always puzzled me...

You are all missing the point.

Let me math it out for you:

Caldari Logistics: 5% bonus to Shield Extender Modules

Dropsuit Shield Upgrades: 5% bonus to maximum shield per level (Cal start at 180)

A proto at 5 slots can be running (5*66)*1.25, that's 412 shield from modules alone, max upgrade and another 225, that's 637 shield alone.

Dump in a few armor plates and kinetic booster to balance speed loss and you can have your Logi floating near 1000 HP.

Throw a Duvolle on him and he's now more powerful than any assault with the same on the field and still faster than heavies with near relative HP.

Then he's got his own equipment resupply points.

Not sure why you're all complaining about logis with damage mods, CCP just made a bipedal tank who could use a militia smg and kill you in head-on 1v1 should have you significantly more concerned.

most ppl don't play eve here on dust but what you guy don't know in eve caldari are the only race gets electronic warfare and that where that 5 hi slot come in all of the scaning mod are hi slots and if we get some kind of jamming it will be a hi slot so calm down ppl

That is actually a damn good idea.

Make it so CCP.

You do realize that reviving is broken as hell right now?

Are you running with a logi in your squad? I advice you to find one.

So it's only the LogiBros that started these hate threads on the forums?

Your solution is to make the LogiBro useless because of some people that didn't help you? Why don't you run Logi yourself if you think they are so OP?

proto assaults have more PG than proto logi suits.