Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Waaaah waah waah waah this game sucks,
waah wah waaaah wah waah waah incorrect logic,
waaah waah waah waah waah CCP sucks,
waah waah waah waah waah waah waah this game is going to die
waah waah waah waah waah waah I quit.

This is Eve-On-The-Ground, expect to take a few months to get into it. It would be broken otherwise.

Also, I think once PVE enters the game, there will be alot more opportunity for low-sp players to have fun.

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

I once played a game called Starhawk,

Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe,
It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch.
Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust have ever seen.
That was eventually sorted out,
The playerbase dropped to below 1000
Many people said it would die,
But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.

Dust 514 won't die.

3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.

Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.

Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.

.. I think you just explained why Starhawk failed and why CCP is following suit...

3000 players for a progressive game is not the same as 300 players on a game where everything is handed to you from day one.

I once played a game called Starhawk,

Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe,
It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch.
Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen.
That was eventually sorted out,
The playerbase dropped to below 1000
Many people said it would die,
But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.

Enough to find a full lobby.

Dust 514 won't die.

3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.

Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.

Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.

I was there. And what happened there should be a cautionary tale of what not to do. star hawks number is nothing to be proud of. tsk.. shame after how awesome warhawk was.

i agree with what he states :(

Weren't you saying the game was fine last night

I once played a game called Starhawk,

Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe,
It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch.
Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen.
That was eventually sorted out,
The playerbase dropped to below 1000
Many people said it would die,
But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.

Enough to find a full lobby.

Dust 514 won't die.

3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.

Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.

Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.

This is Eve-On-The-Ground, expect to take a few months to get into it. It would be broken otherwise.

Also, I think once PVE enters the game, there will be alot more opportunity for low-sp players to have fun.

Weren't you saying the game was fine last night

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

all the problems are slowly catching up with me

.. I think you just explained why Starhawk failed and why CCP is following suit...

3000 players for a progressive game is not the same as 300 players on a game where everything is handed to you from day one.

i don't like zitro but why did they change everything that was fun about the game

If SP was uncapped, then no-lifers like you would have a ludicrous advantage.

Obviously all the EVE carebear kids still like the game, because it caters to blob and trench fighting with endless grinding versus basing an FPS around player skill.

I once played a game called Starhawk,

Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe,
It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch.
Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen.
That was eventually sorted out,
The playerbase dropped to below 1000
Many people said it would die,
But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.

Enough to find a full lobby.

Dust 514 won't die.

3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.

Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.

Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.

low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good

All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good

low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

Some new graphics wouldn't hurt!

I enjoyed it, if you get bored over that, you get bored too easily.

If SP was uncapped, then no-lifers like you would have a ludicrous advantage.

They wouldn't hurt, but the game wouldn't need the graphics, because the gameplay is actually there

I enjoyed it, if you get bored over that, you get bored too easily.

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

No maybe your just to willing to except a game that is in a state of mediocrity

but 300 people online ... one would assume everyone got bored...

A game that is free to play, yes I am.

Why are you on the forums then? We're trying to improve things - not fit your standard of a cheap game.

Sorry to state this but, complaining about how low you think the player base is and how Dust is going to die isn't an effective way of helping to improve stuff.

free to play =/= free to produce

Income needs to come from somewhere obviously, they will add expansions and crap gear, per se a population of 300 players will hardly pay for the staff salaries and the fixed costs involved in maintaining the servers. Once a competitive position has been lost it will require an enormous amount of investment to make it appealing again and it will still be a MAYBE.

Psh, I'm sorry this is such a big thing. Hundreds of games would kill for our playerbase and numbers...

And we're just about to launch and advertise it to the world. Gentlemen, this game is by no means the greatest piece of software or the grandest of ideas, but it is one of the most dynamic and fun communities I've ever played with. Not to mention the promise of a deep and immersive science fiction. Doom is for the doomed; Adapt and overcome.

Don't let this petty stuff get you down

<3 Punk

So - just because you don't like what's being done by 'vets' everything must be fine?

Your logic - have any?

CCP is near being in the same position of Zipper.

1st. The player base doesn't likes CCP anymore and people flood the forums
2nd. The faith on delivering a game worth playing starts to vanish
3rd. Acceptance of the current game-play
4th. Further rage quit and departure of the core players.
5th. Randoms playing random pub matches.
6th. PROTOGOD was right and a monument is built to remember that he was right calling this game trash
7th Game Over



The FPS business segment is extremely competitive and as of now looks like CCP will fail to deliver a decent game, that will at least be able to maintain a core of players with decent skills to call the attention of other core players.

I once played a game called Starhawk,

Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe,
It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch.
Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen.
That was eventually sorted out,
The playerbase dropped to below 1000
Many people said it would die,
But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.

Enough to find a full lobby.

Dust 514 won't die.

3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.

Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.

Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.

I so wanted this game to suceed!

I thought this game was going to be the next big thing!

Turns out to be one of the biggest flops in the history of gaming!

Turns out to be one of the biggest flops in the history of gaming!

Forever the optimist...

Seriously at what point was this game endorsed by the majority as being a flop?

Free to play Triple AAA FPS game and only has less than 5k players.

It's a free game and nobody wants to play it!

Advertisement.

When this game was advertised originally it was in closed beta and was tried by a few. If it's advertised now when everyone can try it for free, those player counts will rocket.

[quote=SoTa of PoP]


I just stated that saying that the game will die and the player counts are too low is counterproductive.

Then you respond with that question...
You just implied that it's the 'vets' that are the ones saying those things.




Saying that I am willing to except a game that is in a state of mediocrity does not mean I don't think there is room for improvement.

How do you figure? F2P game released by niche developer with unique gameplay and concept and revolutionary business model (for a console game) is still in beta and mantaining a solid playerbase which rivals the top playlists of Halo 4 is somehow a flop?

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Oh yeah? Eve online skill training sometimes takes days or months to get to level 5 and still has over 30k and 50k each day.

Alright, guys. Time for another reality check here. And let me start of by saying: JESUS CHRIST! I mean I've been reading some of the threads this guys starts, guys, and make no mistake about it: I'm praying this dude is in fact a woman, like the character he/she plays with. Not only do I hope the dude's a woman but I also pray the God that it's that time of the month, man, because if not he must be suffering from some of the most brutal hormonal imbalances known to man! Ever. Of all time! Now let me give you a couple of tips, man: Go eat some bacon and eggs, hit the gym ASAP, sleep more and stop playing this game! Right now! Maybe you'll get some testosterone running through your body.

And let me address the whole point of this thread as amusing as it is in it's ridiculousness, guys. "Welcome to the real world". Really? I mean last time I checked half of the people here who approve of this message don't even have a job! And I'm not talking about you guys being mercenaries, pencil necks! I'm talking about the real world where you guys are welcoming these self made guys at CCP who started this whole EVE thing from nothing. What have you done? I mean how can you welcome someone into the real world when you're not there yourself? Beats me! I'm flabbergasted here, guys! I mean please somebody help me out here!

Alright, guys, I've had my fun and now it's time to get serious: Get the **** out of this game! You remind me of my friends girlfriend who once once each month goes: "Oh this relationship will die, it's over, this is not working!" Only difference is that you guys do it every single day. Every. Single. Day. Then you guys come out here and go "I'm just trying to save this game". I've got news for you, you're making things worse! Stop it, guys. Stop it!

Ps. My friend's not together with the girl cause she whines about stuff one day each month. He's with her cause he's a patient nice guy.

Free to play Triple AAA FPS game and only has less than 5k players.

It's a free game and nobody wants to play it!

One day I hope to see a post from you that doesn't reference anything sexual.

If SP was uncapped, then no-lifers like you would have a ludicrous advantage.

Oh yeah? I'm gonna drop you one right here, man, and it's gonna be a tough question which you probably can't answer. I'm gonna lay it down for you straight: What have you, or any of your corp mates, or anyone else here done that makes you feel like you can "welcome CCP into the real world"?

The EVE beta had peeps who railed and gnashed their teeth on the forums like you. I remember that. But I don't remember what their names are anymore.

I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself, "Is this a metaphor?" ^_^

And thanks for a post that doesn't include bleeding women or banging one. I know how hard that must of been.

Oh what is that a metaphor for? "I don't like the new build and I'm gonna have a tantrum over it"? **** you! And while I'm at it, let me tell you something else, dude. I'm gonna throw you a little prediction of my own cause I heard someone, probably from your alliance, dramatically state that the game won't survive another 2 months. Well I guarantee you that it's gonna survive more than 2 more months so you guys don't need to have nightmares over it. Now settle the **** down, do what I told you earlier to get your testosterone levels up and enjoy life cause you guys are obviously not enjoying this game!

Zitro this game isn't for those who want an instant gratification. .

...? Did you just cuss over and over then tell me to settle down? Lmao. This is why no one listens to you - other then you only seem to know what's in your pornos.

All these threads are the same turdball wrapped up in a different bow.

"If you don't do what I say, and make the game the way I like, I'm going to quit and the game is going to die!"

Blah blah blah. Nobody is as important as some of you seem to think you are.

He asked you a fair question twerp... what have you accomplished that suggests you know something about the real world?

Alright, guys. Time for another reality check here. And let me start of by saying: JESUS CHRIST! I mean I've been reading some of the threads this guys starts, guys, and make no mistake about it: I'm praying this dude is in fact a woman, like the character he/she plays with. Not only do I hope the dude's a woman but I also pray the God that it's that time of the month, man, because if not he must be suffering from some of the most brutal hormonal imbalances known to man! Ever. Of all time! Now let me give you a couple of tips, man: Go eat some bacon and eggs, hit the gym ASAP, sleep more and stop playing this game! Right now! Maybe you'll get some testosterone running through your body.

And let me address the whole point of this thread as amusing as it is in it's ridiculousness, guys. "Welcome to the real world". Really? I mean last time I checked half of the people here who approve of this message don't even have a job! And I'm not talking about you guys being mercenaries, pencil necks! I'm talking about the real world where you guys are welcoming these self made guys at CCP who started this whole EVE thing from nothing. What have you done? I mean how can you welcome someone into the real world when you're not there yourself? Beats me! I'm flabbergasted here, guys! I mean please somebody help me out here!

Alright, guys, I've had my fun and now it's time to get serious: Get the **** out of this game! You remind me of my friends girlfriend who once once each month goes: "Oh this relationship will die, it's over, this is not working!" Only difference is that you guys do it every single day. Every. Single. Day. Then you guys come out here and go "I'm just trying to save this game". I've got news for you, you're making things worse! Stop it, guys. Stop it!

Ps. My friend's not together with the girl cause she whines about stuff one day each month. He's with her cause he's a patient nice guy.

Nah you should just GTFO, you carebears and your zero sum knowledge of FPS thinking your opinions have validation are just a terrible influence on CCP, after all who doesn't love yes men. Perhaps if you had a clue on whats going on you'd get that, but nope you want to be the HTFU crowd that thinks CCP is perfectly in control of what they are doing. Man its laughable if you only saw how much they are scrambling right now. But yup tell yourself its fine and it will get better.

Ill keep railing Incarna514

If SP was uncapped this game would feel even more like a job as every second your not playing is another second your falling behind. So uncapping SP is a terrible idea. Also whats the point of playing when you have every suit in the game, looking at the SP system you can be running an lvl 3 basic suit with lvl 3 guns and complex shield extenders in under a month. Thats enough to complete in all instant que battles. Also another fun fact is its actually faster to get into Proto gear that you where running before because they lowered the multiplier on it from 8x to 6x. The only group of people I can see complaining is logistics players as they HAVE to spec into the specializations in order to do what they want to do.

Zitro this game isn't for those who want an instant gratification, it will take years and even then their will be more stuff that you will want for your suit and thats New Eden. The SP system is fine the way it is other than the lack of low SP logi options.

FPS much?? guess not

Here is the formula

KZ2/Socom 2 type class and gunplay + MAG numbers + MAG/KZ game mode archetypes + pace/tactics + EVE market/loot/raiding/persistance/conflict=PROFIT

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!





Edit: Addition

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game that is FREE! We would have more players than 5k period!

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game they would be advertising this game! But they are not!

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game everybody should of been talking about this game. But nobody hasn't!

This game is more of a triple FFF FPS game!

It's sad that this game only has fanboi's now!

What's even worst is that EVE has more players on than Dust!! Plus you have to pay for EVE!

Well here's the thing, dude, and let me be the first one tell you that I'm not a yes man for anyone. I know there are problems, I know they're working hard to fix stuff. The difference here is how we react to this situation, man, and let me explain exactly how. I mean you guys are going full blown hysterical over this saying stuff like "This game fails in 2 months" and "Welcome to the real world" I mean what the **** do you guys wanna accomplish by this? You're acting like CCP is your daddy and you can throw a tantrum to get what you want. It might have worked with YOUR parents, bro, my parents had none of that BS. I didn't get to throw around threats and demands, man, and you should stop doing it here in the Dust 514 forums too, bro, cause it's not helping one bit!

Sure, and let me suggest that CCP may have their own view of where they are trying to go. Whether or not it follows that formula is up to them.

Obviously they aren't going to make everyone happy no matter what they do but how EVE like they wish to make the game is entirely up to them -- to the point that you may feel they are risking the existence of the game itself.

Here's the thing brah As a paying customer i do get to call out the developer. I also get to explain my dismay at their incompetence. Moreover we have given feedback and expressed our opinions throughly throughout since closed beta.

What happens a carebear comes in says HTFU everything is fine and it gets ignored.
Moreover CCP collects their data from public matches where the overwhelming majority are clueless on how to play the game so your sample size is utterly skewed.

Ive been in the business world long enough to now that when a company continually ignores or utterly destroys their product to the point of such a high level of consumer dissatisfaction that it shakes away any sense of trust between the two parties is when it often means the decline of said product.

Unlike major companies that can simply pull the project, retool and rebrand CCP is small and has a gun to their head. We've told them till we are blue in the face what to do.

As far as feedback for the umpteenth time here start with this

The feedback is pretty much simple,

Hit detection
Map terrain
Aiming
Weapon range buffs
Suit buffs to balance around logi suit
Uncapped SP
Faster entry point for new players to increase retention.

know so much about real life and how to make profit. Why don't you, Keyser, go and make this game you described and "profit". Oh sorry I forgot your "real world" talk wasn't real after all. Well since you haven't been here, in the real world yet, let me give you a little run down, a little history lesson, guys. Cause that's exactly what CCP did more than ten years ago, they went out into the real world and executed a game and did in fact profit. Now knowing your kind, guys, you're not gonna do ****! You're gonna sit there in your apartment, with a hamburger in your lap, typing away with your greasy fingers and telling CCP how to profit. That's all you're gonna do.

Please ive done my consulting work for CCP they can take it or leave it. Perhaps you'd understand that in the business world people dont care if you have a good idea they care about results. ITs a results driven process and if CCP cant produce then nobody cares, wheres all the Sony support? Yup they are busy focusing on other devs and PS4 launch cause CCP missed their window it would seem, or do you think this is where CCP should be in their dev cycle. TQ move consumed a lot of resources but they didnt even consult their base on this, as far as knowledge goes yea i do think i have a bit more insight into FPS than CCP since i play them regularly, thats why i was in closed beta and gave feedback rigorously on it.

Oh and Zipper did same thing as CCP; where are they now?

Wow really thats the best argument you have if you think you can do better go do it?

Please ive done my consulting work for CCP they can take it or leave it. Perhaps you'd understand that in the business world people dont care if you have a good idea they care about results. ITs a results driven process and if CCP cant produce then nobody cares, wheres all the Sony support? Yup they are busy focusing on other devs and PS4 launch cause CCP missed their window it would seem, or do you think this is where CCP should be in their dev cycle. TQ move consumed a lot of resources but they didnt even consult their base on this, as far as knowledge goes yea i do think i have a bit more insight into FPS than CCP since i play them regularly, thats why i was in closed beta and gave feedback rigorously on it.

Oh and Zipper did same thing as CCP; where are they now?

If you're indeed done with "your consulting job" for CCP then what the **** are you still going on about?

sycophant scrub, shoo

First of all, Mr. Business man, I suggest you take some writing lessons. Might help you with your career, man. The second thing is that if you've already told CCP this for "umpteen" times don't you think they've read it? I mean what are you expecting to happen the next time you say the same things tomorrow? A miracle? I don't get it. They are aware what you have hysterically proclaimed over and over again and either they're gonna do something about it or not. You having a tantrum about it here is NOT gonna change facts.

What are you? His business partner? I mean you write as well as he does.

Let me TL;DR rics words since he likes to make a bunch of posts that looks like words are trying to form walls.

Ric: Stop QQing, this isn't helping, if you don't feel like you're being listened too then just relax. Beating your chest and raging on the forums doesn't help CCP, or us.

That would be his bottom line. However - if you were to take him at face value...

Ric: **** off pussies, you want to know whose got a life, not you fags. You're just tantrum throwing adults acting like pre-teens who first got there rag in the middle of swimming.

Now - Ric - since you're such a sensible guy (LOL) care to explain how you're any different then the people you're raging at?

It's like Obama telling Bush he fails at life.

You're throwing a tantrum and your parents didn't teach you NOT to throw a tantrum like that, so I'm gonna have to be the one to teach you guys that.

Okay - I know this is lame of me to do since ... well, heh.

But since you brought in parents teachings.... Did your mother tell you it was okay to go to a gaming forum and constantly bring up womens periods, banging them, and basically reducing females to be nothing but meat for your enjoyment? How can you sit here and preach about a parents teaching when your own would slap you so hard your head would fall off?

No really - bring them to the forums. I'll give them some links of your posts.

Hey, man, I've got nothing against women, dude. I have a lot of respect for all women, I love them. All shape, all colors. But let's be honest here, bro, they've got their issues with those hormones and there's no denying that. I mean I've got my hormonal issues, dude, and I'm the first one to admit that I've got a lot of testosterone moving around in my body and it makes me go overboard every now and then. Doesn't mean I hate guys with a lot of testosterone.

You know, for all your talk and opinions, I really like how straight forward you are.

QFT

I so wanted this game to suceed!

I thought this game was going to be the next big thing!

Turns out to be one of the biggest flops in the history of gaming!

I once played a game called Starhawk,

Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe,
It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch.
Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen.
That was eventually sorted out,
The playerbase dropped to below 1000
Many people said it would die,
But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.

Enough to find a full lobby.

Dust 514 won't die.

3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.

Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.

Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.

Hell yeah I did! Because let me tell you something: People bitching about stuff makes me pissed off! Nagging about stuff over and over again also makes me pissed off! And while I accept a child having a tantrum, a grown ass man having a tantrum is a totally different thing in my books, guys! And oh yeah, that's exactly what you guys are doing, and that's exactly why I tell you to settle the **** down!

UR STUFS. I HAZ?

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!





Edit: Addition

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game that is FREE! We would have more players than 5k period!

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game they would be advertising this game! But they are not!

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game everybody should of been talking about this game. But nobody hasn't!

This game is more of a triple FFF FPS game!

It's sad that this game only has fanboi's now!

What's even worst is that EVE has more players on than Dust!! Plus you have to pay for EVE!

A game that is free to play, yes I am.



Lack of advertising, poor sales, VERY unbalanced for the first month so word was mouth advertisement was bad.

Generally it had a terrible spawn problem in the beginning since the weapons were so OP one side would get into the other sides base and kill them till the end of the game.

Just to throw this out there- On that last part about EVE- its been running since early 2000 something. And Dust 514 has been running for a year, then open beta for more then less then a year.... Give this game 5 years or so... Now I will just exit this... nobody saw me....

- Geth

Tell me of one FPS game that has last more than a year? Very few and they were blockbuster games.

In 5 years nobody will even remember this game.

Do other FPSes do updates to core game mechanics or provide new content for free years after release like this one is slated to?

No.

Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!

TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.

Welcome to the Real World!

Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!

Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!

You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.

Welcome to the Real World CCP!

Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!

Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.

You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!

Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.

Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!

No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!

Welcome to the Real World CCP!





Edit: Addition

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game that is FREE! We would have more players than 5k period!

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game they would be advertising this game! But they are not!

If this was really a triple AAA FPS game everybody should of been talking about this game. But nobody hasn't!

This game is more of a triple FFF FPS game!

It's sad that this game only has fanboi's now!

What's even worst is that EVE has more players on than Dust!! Plus you have to pay for EVE!

This is why I remain slightly hopeful.

That's why every build has been a completely new feel!

Because they can't get the "Core Mechanics" right to begin with.

I would rather pay for an update that actually works then get free crappy updates for years.

No wonder why this game is free. Because it sucks.

Better quit then. Bye, don't come back.

Wow... I bet this guy's neckbeard is like... Prehensile. Maybe he can even play Dust with it....

Anyway, you sir, are an idiot. With the system in place before it was a bunch of rich got richer bullshit as new players would get trashed by assault protosuits and every other class was invalid. And CCP shouldn't be detoured by a vocal minority, especially one as outlandish as yourself. Uprising was a MASSIVE improvement in my opinion. They improved upon fluid mechanics, making vehicles actually drivable, alternative control sets, a more in depth and engaging system of purchasing skills and equipment, more variety with suits, and, oh yeah, THERE ARE ******* BUSHES NOW.

Face it, the last run wasn't AAA. See how I hardly have any posts? Because I never posted here before. Because I hated the last run of Dust. Best rating I would give it? C-

Uprising offers SO MUCH potential and you are squandering that by forming a vocal minority to bully CCP to backslide into the last variant of the game. It was a BETA. You get what that means, right? It changes, adapts, gets better, and in my opinion that is exactly what CCP did with Uprising.

Here is to some godsdamn common sense.

That's why every build has been a completely new feel!

Because they can't get the "Core Mechanics" right to begin with.

I would rather pay for an update that actually works then get free crappy updates for years.

No wonder why this game is free. Because it sucks.

LMAO!

I have been here from the beginning.

CCP started off great! Then got worst with every new build!

A year later, they haven't listen to anybody who has sense that has poured in a ton of man hours to help balance and give suggestions.

Nope they just listened to the cry babies on the forums who didn't know squat.

Hey, that's where we are now.

So you sir should just stop posting! Because you need some sense knocked into you.

You "all knowing" attitude and complete disregard for your player base will earn these hard lumps for you CCP. You fixed over 40 things never even asked for because you know best.

And we still don't even get points for counter hacking in skirmish? You guys are seriously dense and need to learn some humility hopefully this is a chance for you to swallow some, and maybe open your ears and minds to your customer base not some make believe customer your building a game for.

The more I read OP and his supporters the more I realize this person is a child. Really, the mechanics you propose are up to line with Call of Duty and Halo. Go play that if that is what you seek. You say Dust becomes a job, and yeah, no ****. Do you have any context of what EVE online is?

This isn't a shoot um' up "blast the **** out of um" game, it is a profession, a career, a lifestyle, a SIMULATION. The idea is that you get out what you put in. That through effort you can rise in ranks and acquire wealth, not through unfair advantages and political sponsorship.

In other words, everything the Caldari fight for. I wouldn't expect you Federation filth to understand.

This isn't just some FPS, it is an immersive MMORPG with it's own mythos in one universe. I am glad CCP won't let the fate Caldari space, or for that matter the whole universe, clutch on the bitching and moaning of a child because he can't become a demi-god through the abilities of an overpowered assault rifle.

Damn right, it is trench warfare, what the hell do you think warfare is soldier? We got large benefactors from the EVE universe lining up to pay some massive coin to take the planets we are deployed to and they want the job done right. This isn't kindergarten, it is tactics and blood and guts and heavy machinery.

If you don't get that then you aren't fit for service.

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******* bring it. Maybe if I slap you hard enough you'll be able to find your *****. I mean really
>"Listening to crybabys"
Do you hear yourself or are you just autistic?

The more I read OP and his supporters the more I realize this person is a child. Really, the mechanics you propose are up to line with Call of Duty and Halo. Go play that if that is what you seek. You say Dust becomes a job, and yeah, no ****. Do you have any context of what EVE online is?

This isn't a shoot um' up "blast the **** out of um" game, it is a profession, a career, a lifestyle, a SIMULATION. The idea is that you get out what you put in. That through effort you can rise in ranks and acquire wealth, not through unfair advantages and political sponsorship.

In other words, everything the Caldari fight for. I wouldn't expect you Federation filth to understand.

This isn't just some FPS, it is an immersive MMORPG with it's own mythos in one universe. I am glad CCP won't let the fate Caldari space, or for that matter the whole universe, clutch on the bitching and moaning of a child because he can't become a demi-god through the abilities of an overpowered assault rifle.

Damn right, it is trench warfare, what the hell do you think warfare is soldier? We got large benefactors from the EVE universe lining up to pay some massive coin to take the planets we are deployed to and they want the job done right. This isn't kindergarten, it is tactics and blood and guts and heavy machinery.

If you don't get that then you aren't fit for service.

EDIT:
******* bring it. Maybe if I slap you hard enough you'll be able to find your *****. I mean really
>"Listening to crybabys"
Do you hear yourself or are you just autistic?

Coming form a guy hiding behind an alt? It's sad that the game probably counted this guy and his main to make the player base seem higher

zitro.

I dunno why you waste your breath.

This forum has more evetards on it than a build your own basement convention.

And sadly from what I've seen for the last year or so it's these prats that ccp listens to.

Which is one of the main reasons this trash game is what we have ended up with.

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Hahahaha. Speaking of humility... I think it is their game and not yours. They have every right to go in and make the game the way they want it to be. They also have every right to prioritize their efforts based on their own concerns.

Yes, it would be nice to get counter hacking points. If that's your biggest beef get over it... I'm sure it will arrive.

Alt? Hue. In all seriousness, this is my only account, but when my friend alerted me to how unfair all of you are being I just couldn't stay silent anymore.

The more I read OP and his supporters the more I realize this person is a child. Really, the mechanics you propose are up to line with Call of Duty and Halo. Go play that if that is what you seek. You say Dust becomes a job, and yeah, no ****. Do you have any context of what EVE online is?

This isn't a shoot um' up "blast the **** out of um" game, it is a profession, a career, a lifestyle, a SIMULATION. The idea is that you get out what you put in. That through effort you can rise in ranks and acquire wealth, not through unfair advantages and political sponsorship.

In other words, everything the Caldari fight for. I wouldn't expect you Federation filth to understand.

This isn't just some FPS, it is an immersive MMORPG with it's own mythos in one universe. I am glad CCP won't let the fate Caldari space, or for that matter the whole universe, clutch on the bitching and moaning of a child because he can't become a demi-god through the abilities of an overpowered assault rifle.

Damn right, it is trench warfare, what the hell do you think warfare is soldier? We got large benefactors from the EVE universe lining up to pay some massive coin to take the planets we are deployed to and they want the job done right. This isn't kindergarten, it is tactics and blood and guts and heavy machinery.

If you don't get that then you aren't fit for service.

EDIT:
******* bring it. Maybe if I slap you hard enough you'll be able to find your *****. I mean really
>"Listening to crybabys"
Do you hear yourself or are you just autistic?

zitro.

I dunno why you waste your breath.

This forum has more evetards on it than a build your own basement convention.

And sadly from what I've seen for the last year or so it's these prats that ccp listens to.

Which is one of the main reasons this trash game is what we have ended up with.

You're back!

How many more QQ posts are you going to make before you dissapear again?

Awwww, did I hurt your feelings, basement boy. lol.

Also, some of us post on these forums for more than just bitching about things.
You should try it.

Obviously all the EVE carebear kids still like the game, because it caters to blob and trench fighting with endless grinding versus basing an FPS around player skill.

basing an FPS around player skill

you do realize that skill is capped by SP right? a really good player with 500k SP and using milita fits will not consistently win against 10m SP average proto players....

if you want a game that was based of player skill it would have no type of skill progression and everyone would have the same weapon. im not sure which side of the fence your on, but im just saying because i see a lot of people saying "get better". you can "get better" all you want but your still behind all these 15m sp players.

solution imo: sp tierd matchmaking.

actaully this is the solution

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=772839#post772839

SP tiered matchmaking fails when you have small player bases like this


Assassin creed MP is an example of this as is uncharted 2 and 3(3 is F2P now and it still struggles to pull in player counts and its u2 MP was wildly popular until carebears ruined it with 1.04)

Killzoe 3 went F2P as well this goes to show that F2P even good ones cant draw back consumers once the console players have drawn their conclusion.

I went back to UC3 i love it in fact but god if i can get players who loved it to come back, they just dont want to bother.

Re-learning? Tell me - how do new people re-learn to catch up?

Welcome to the real world indeed, CCP.

I was going to say why you out of imps, but then I saw that the name is different.

Why you alt posting? Or who is impersonating you?