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Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:12:00 - [31] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: i agree with what he states :( Weren't you saying the game was fine last night all the problems are slowly catching up with me I knew it would hit you eventually
Zahle Undt The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:12:00 - [32] - Quote SoTa of PoP wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust have ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. .. I think you just explained why Starhawk failed and why CCP is following suit... 3000 players for a progressive game is not the same as 300 players on a game where everything is handed to you from day one. Not to mention Starhawk and other multiplayer games get their money up front from game sales CCP is trying to get paid little by little. Player list will only tell you so much about Dust's success. For example I am still playing Dust, but I'm not buying anymore aurum thanks to CCPs lies about aurum refund for BPO and because they made it less fun to play. But fortunatly for CCP I was foolish enough to give them my $60 before this garbage release build
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 157	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:13:00 - [33] - Quote NIIKIA wrote: Omnipotent Zitro wrote: Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden! TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase. Welcome to the Real World! Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game! Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only! You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week. Welcome to the Real World CCP! Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!! Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week. You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work! Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514. Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything! No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks! Welcome to the Real World CCP! i don't like zitro but why did they change everything that was fun about the game Obviously all the EVE carebear kids still like the game, because it caters to blob and trench fighting with endless grinding versus basing an FPS around player skill.
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 229	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:15:00 - [34] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: If SP was uncapped, then no-lifers like you would have a ludicrous advantage. Straw man argument. Remember all those ppl who argue that it should take a year to get into proto gear becuase its proto gear and ppl counter that new players cant face the grind and ppl retort well its not a grind it force ppl to specialize since you can only take a skill to level 5 anyway. Ill save the back and forth here and simply state if the game isnt a grind and players all can end up in the same endpoint anyway it doesnt matter As certain vets like to reminds newbies, you characters only get wider not taller. So veteran advantage comes in the form of versatility not extra power. And with no cap new players can pick a role and grind it out to speciality. If they spread themselves out then they effed themselves but they can find a corp to set them straight and GRIND it out. See thats the point of ppl who grind in FPS. They do it temporarily so they can get to a level ground. So yea no-lifers can grind till their hearts content as long as im a new player and can max out a single speciality quickly i can go hunt them down, after all i cant play a logi and a heavy at the same time.
NOT slap26 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:16:00 - [35] - Quote All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good
Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:19:00 - [36] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: NIIKIA wrote: Omnipotent Zitro wrote: Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden! TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase. Welcome to the Real World! Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game! Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only! You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week. Welcome to the Real World CCP! Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!! Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week. You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work! Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514. Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything! No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks! Welcome to the Real World CCP! i don't like zitro but why did they change everything that was fun about the game Obviously all the EVE carebear kids still like the game, because it caters to blob and trench fighting with endless grinding versus basing an FPS around player skill. rudy clap
NOT slap26 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:20:00 - [37] - Quote SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Enough to find a full lobby. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 542	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:21:00 - [38] - Quote You know you have a bad game when people from PRO do good
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 158	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:21:00 - [39] - Quote NOT slap26 wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Enough to find a full lobby. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:21:00 - [40] - Quote NOT slap26 wrote: All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good Some new graphics wouldn't hurt!

Shaka Zulu I Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 16	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:23:00 - [41] - Quote NOT slap26 wrote: All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good Ahmen bro, ahmen.
Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:23:00 - [42] - Quote NOT slap26 wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Enough to find a full lobby. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 692	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:25:00 - [43] - Quote One of the problems is that the elite players are operating under a completely different paradigm than CCP. The players want to maximize every advantage over their peers, while the devs want to create an ecosystem where proto gear is relatively rare outside of "big deal" fights. CCP clearly wants prototype gear to be a long term goal for new players (obtainable slightly earlier via intense specialization), and for most of the day to day fighting to be done in standard and advanced suits. Meanwhile, we mercs don't even consider ourselves competitive until we have a full suite* of proto gear. They still need to fix aiming, though. I didn't think making it worse than Chromosome was even possible, but somehow they managed.
NOT slap26 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:26:00 - [44] - Quote I would also like to add that during peak hours World of Tanks has around 30,000+ people online, and during off hours there are around 10,000 players online (on the North American Server alone)
SherIock Holmes Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:26:00 - [45] - Quote Elrick Mercer wrote: NOT slap26 wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Enough to find a full lobby. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over I enjoyed it, if you get bored over that, you get bored too easily.
Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:26:00 - [46] - Quote All I have to say is this... I've got my marshmallows I said I would stick around to watch the second burning of the Hindenburg and unless CCP fixes this mess my Nostradamus like abilities will come true
NOT slap26 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:28:00 - [47] - Quote Elrick Mercer wrote: NOT slap26 wrote: All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good Some new graphics wouldn't hurt! They wouldn't hurt, but the game wouldn't need the graphics, because the gameplay is actually there
Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:29:00 - [48] - Quote SherIock Holmes wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: NOT slap26 wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Enough to find a full lobby. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over I enjoyed it, if you get bored over that, you get bored too easily. No maybe your just to willing to except a game that is in a state of mediocrity
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 173	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:29:00 - [49] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: If SP was uncapped, then no-lifers like you would have a ludicrous advantage. Fix match making problem solved make it so people within 1m sp of eachother play with eachother
Elrick Mercer Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:30:00 - [50] - Quote NOT slap26 wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: NOT slap26 wrote: All we need is Socom 2 without all the hackers, We don't even need updated graphics cause the gameplay was just that damn good Some new graphics wouldn't hurt! They wouldn't hurt, but the game wouldn't need the graphics, because the gameplay is actually there Valid point is valid.

SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:30:00 - [51] - Quote SherIock Holmes wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: NOT slap26 wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: I once played a game called Starhawk, Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on. Enough to find a full lobby. Dust 514 won't die. 3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years. Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements. Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. low player counts cause the game to get boring tho, when your fighting the same people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over I enjoyed it, if you get bored over that, you get bored too easily. Uhm - not to ... point out the obvious... but 300 people online ... one would assume everyone got bored...
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 506	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:33:00 - [52] - Quote Omnipotent Zitro wrote: Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden! TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase. Welcome to the Real World! Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game! Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only! You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week. Welcome to the Real World CCP! Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!! Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week. You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work! Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514. Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything! No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks! Welcome to the Real World CCP! The EVE beta had peeps who railed and gnashed their teeth on the forums like you. I remember that. But I don't remember what their names are anymore.
LittleCuteBunny Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 5	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:39:00 - [53] - Quote CCP is near being in the same position of Zipper. 1st. The player base doesn't likes CCP anymore and people flood the forums 2nd. The faith on delivering a game worth playing starts to vanish 3rd. Acceptance of the current game-play 4th. Further rage quit and departure of the core players. 5th. Randoms playing random pub matches. 6th. PROTOGOD was right and a monument is built to remember that he was right calling this game trash 7th Game Over The FPS business segment is extremely competitive and as of now looks like CCP will fail to deliver a decent game, that will at least be able to maintain a core of players with decent skills to call the attention of other core players.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:46:00 - [54] - Quote All those tiger tears are hilarious...clearly from people who never played EVE and went through rebalancing cycles there. If they had they'd realise it will still be a success because the complex and challenging play style appeals to a lot of "hardcore" players who tend to stick around for longer. All those kiddies being sad about not getting their 35/1 KD ratio with a simple HMG are great...I hope they all leave so the good people remain.
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 182	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:46:00 - [55] - Quote See ya guys! It's been fun. Time to move on to your next 'In' game. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
SherIock Holmes Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:50:00 - [56] - Quote Elrick Mercer wrote: No maybe your just to willing to except a game that is in a state of mediocrity A game that is free to play, yes I am. SoTa of PoP wrote: but 300 people online ... one would assume everyone got bored... Lack of advertising, poor sales, VERY unbalanced for the first month so word was mouth advertisement was bad. Generally it had a terrible spawn problem in the beginning since the weapons were so OP one side would get into the other sides base and kill them till the end of the game.
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:52:00 - [57] - Quote SherIock Holmes wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: No maybe your just to willing to except a game that is in a state of mediocrity A game that is free to play, yes I am. Why are you on the forums then? We're trying to improve things - not fit your standard of a cheap game.
SherIock Holmes Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:55:00 - [58] - Quote SoTa of PoP wrote: SherIock Holmes wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: No maybe your just to willing to except a game that is in a state of mediocrity A game that is free to play, yes I am. Why are you on the forums then? We're trying to improve things - not fit your standard of a cheap game. Sorry to state this but, complaining about how low you think the player base is and how Dust is going to die won't improve stuff.
LittleCuteBunny Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 5	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:56:00 - [59] - Quote free to play =/= free to produce Income needs to come from somewhere obviously, they will add expansions and crap gear, per se a population of 300 players will hardly pay for the staff salaries and the fixed costs involved in maintaining the servers. Once a competitive position has been lost it will require an enormous amount of investment to make it appealing again and it will still be a MAYBE.
Jason Punk DUST University Ivy League 95	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:58:00 - [60] - Quote Psh, I'm sorry this is such a big thing. Hundreds of games would kill for our playerbase and numbers... And we're just about to launch and advertise it to the world. Gentlemen, this game is by no means the greatest piece of software or the grandest of ideas, but it is one of the most dynamic and fun communities I've ever played with. Not to mention the promise a deep and immersive science fiction. Doom is for the doomed; Adapt and overcome. Don't let this petty stuff get you down



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