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Omnipotent Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:44:00 -
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Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!
TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.
Welcome to the Real World!
Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!
Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!
You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!
Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.
You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!
Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.
Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!
No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:46:00 -
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i agree with what he states :( |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:47:00 -
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If SP was uncapped, then no-lifers like you would have a ludicrous advantage. |
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Khan Hun
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:48:00 -
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In the real world, no one cares about bitter players doom saying on the forums. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
69
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:48:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote:Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!
TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.
Welcome to the Real World!
Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!
Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!
You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!
Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.
You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!
Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.
Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!
No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
Leave it to an IMP to exaggerate. 5X? All Ive seen after uprising is 3X. But +1 to you anyway. ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
76
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote:Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!
TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.
Welcome to the Real World!
Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!
Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!
You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!
Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.
You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!
Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.
Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!
No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
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Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
131
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote: Waaaah waah waah waah this game sucks, waah wah waaaah wah waah waah incorrect logic, waaah waah waah waah waah CCP sucks, waah waah waah waah waah waah waah this game is going to die waah waah waah waah waah waah I quit.
TL;DR version for the lazy.
And can I have your stuff? |
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Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
71
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 -
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Just wondering...Can I have your stuff? |
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Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
45
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 -
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This isn't the Beta. You can't instantly hop into whatever abusive build you had before. With each build comes the necessary relearning of how to do your role. Beta allowed us to skill faster, the original no. Also, remember the rest is coming on the 14th.
Welcome to the Real World; learn patience. :) |
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Sophie DV
Amplitude.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 -
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This is Eve-On-The-Ground, expect to take a few months to get into it. It would be broken otherwise.
Also, I think once PVE enters the game, there will be alot more opportunity for low-sp players to have fun. |
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Raz Sidona
Department of Defence Planetary Response Force Eternal Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:50:00 -
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I cant agree more, i would rather eat glass than play this stupid game. Congrats CCP, i dont think anyone has killed their own game before it even launched before |
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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 -
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Re-learning? Tell me - how do new people re-learn to catch up?
Welcome to the real world indeed, CCP.
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semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 -
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I have to admit I was surprised by the 5K only number as well.
But Zitro makes alot of good points. With the new SP sinks at minimum we should be getting double SP rewards and double the SP cap now. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 -
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AR gets nerfed, everyone crawls out of the woodwork ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Build is fairly borky though, odd direction to go just in general. Much work ahead. |
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
121
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:52:00 -
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The worst part about posts like this is they somehow think that earning SP and better equipment is the point of the game. It's not. At all.
Plenty of FPS games have been successful with NO progression system, infact progression is what killed Halo. If you don't enjoy the gameplay, why would you even WANT to earn that next item? Folks obsessed with filling bars over gameplay confuse me. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:54:00 -
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Sophie DV wrote:This is Eve-On-The-Ground, expect to take a few months to get into it. It would be broken otherwise.
Also, I think once PVE enters the game, there will be alot more opportunity for low-sp players to have fun.
Oh ... bloody hell. just say it. "MORE KOREAN MMO GRINDING!" More power if you like that, but still.. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:56:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote:Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!
TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.
Welcome to the Real World!
Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!
Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!
You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!
Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.
You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!
Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.
Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!
No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
welcome to a major update to a beta! yes they messed up but shut up already and let them get the feedback that matters more to them but nonstop critism, yes some is expected and would be good for them but this has gone beyond necessary and is just annoying. Lets do what we are here for and give feedback, REAL FEEDBACK not "you guys messed up the game" without stating what is wrong AND sugegstions on how to fix, this thread contains NONE OF THAT though. |
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SherIock Holmes
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:57:00 -
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I once played a game called Starhawk,
Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust have ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.
Dust 514 won't die.
3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.
Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.
Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. |
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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:59:00 -
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SherIock Holmes wrote:I once played a game called Starhawk,
Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust have ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.
Dust 514 won't die.
3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.
Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.
Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. .. I think you just explained why Starhawk failed and why CCP is following suit...
3000 players for a progressive game is not the same as 300 players on a game where everything is handed to you from day one. |
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SherIock Holmes
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:01:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:SherIock Holmes wrote:I once played a game called Starhawk,
Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust have ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.
Dust 514 won't die.
3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.
Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.
Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. .. I think you just explained why Starhawk failed and why CCP is following suit... 3000 players for a progressive game is not the same as 300 players on a game where everything is handed to you from day one.
What is failure though?
If you can find a full game who cares what the player count is.
Let me link you to this:
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Starhawk-General/The-Player-Count-Thread/td-p/38560653 |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:02:00 -
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SherIock Holmes wrote:I once played a game called Starhawk,
Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.
Enough to find a full lobby.
Dust 514 won't die.
3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.
Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.
Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.
I was there. And what happened there should be a cautionary tale of what not to do. star hawks number is nothing to be proud of. tsk.. shame after how awesome warhawk was. |
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:04:00 -
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3000 total players would be bad. But we are seeing 5000 or so on weekdays online at once. This means the total player base is probably a lot closer to 100k or more.
Not only that, but look at Halo 4.
http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/playlists/2013-05-08
The top playlist has about what DUST has. Its total is maybe 3-4X DUST. And thats HALO 4. Not every game is COD, nor can they expect to be. |
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Nstomper
The Sangheli
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:04:00 -
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Imp trash talk thread #69 |
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SherIock Holmes
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:04:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:SherIock Holmes wrote:I once played a game called Starhawk,
Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.
Enough to find a full lobby.
Dust 514 won't die.
3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.
Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.
Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong. I was there. And what happened there should be a cautionary tale of what not to do. star hawks number is nothing to be proud of. tsk.. shame after how awesome warhawk was.
You can play it now and you'll still find a full lobby.
I also know quite a few Starhawk players play Dust. |
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Elrick Mercer
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:05:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:i agree with what he states :(
Weren't you saying the game was fine last night ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:07:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:i agree with what he states :( Weren't you saying the game was fine last night ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) LOL ^ |
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Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:07:00 -
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SherIock Holmes wrote:I once played a game called Starhawk,
Starhawk was made in early 2012 I believe, It lost most of it's playerbase due to horrible unbalances at launch. Saying that I mean HORRIBLE unbalances nothing dust has ever seen. That was eventually sorted out, The playerbase dropped to below 1000 Many people said it would die, But as the days carry on, it's still going strong with about 300 players on.
Enough to find a full lobby.
Dust 514 won't die.
3000 players is enough to keep it alive for years.
Those 3000 players are before CCP even puts out advertisements.
Summary: Doom Sayers are wrong.
I was in both betas for that game and own the LE to it, great game. Yes it was imbalanced towards the hawks and has been nearly completely fixed (flak is OP) but it was also the sales date from what I remember.
This game will have its bumps (like now) but those who are here to balance like they agreed to not just to have fun will stay (if they truly wanted to help they would give better feedback beside you screwed up I`m done) and I don`t think this game will die either, as it expands its skills (with new weapons, gear and vehicles counting as 'skills') it will grow in player based, as a F2P it will be a game people will play at least every now and then and dedicated players will stay for years and most likely 10 years to say at least. |
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Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:07:00 -
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Sophie DV wrote:This is Eve-On-The-Ground, expect to take a few months to get into it. It would be broken otherwise.
Also, I think once PVE enters the game, there will be alot more opportunity for low-sp players to have fun.
PvE isn't happening for months at the earliest. if you think Sony is going to be content with a f2p FPS that draws the same half million players that Eve has I think you are mistaken |
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GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:09:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:i agree with what he states :( Weren't you saying the game was fine last night ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
all the problems are slowly catching up with me |
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NIIKIA
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:12:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote:Everybody has this phrase: Welcome to New Eden!
TBH it's such a stupid phrase! But CCP is so deserving of this new phrase.
Welcome to the Real World!
Your game had so much promise. Guess what? You killed your own game!
Out of the millions who downloaded the game, only 5k max are ever on! That was on new build day only!
You know the game is in trouble when the numbers are down and it's SP reset day. Usually a lot more players get on to grind there measly SP they get for a week.
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
Nobody is going to play a game for a month just to get a dropsuit, a weapon, some supporting skills! That's obsurd! One month to just get one item, one decent item! And that's if you pay for the boosters!!!
Then you have to the nerve to limit everybody on how much SP anybody can earn a week.
You make the game a job! As most players know, having a job isn't that fun! We play games to have fun! Not to think of it as work!
Then you make the gameplay unbearable! Blob/trench warfare is not fun! You nerfed everything into oblivion! Anything that was fun, is not enjoyable anymore! I thought this was a Sci-fi shooter, not some bore-fest 514.
Only developer to have the whole community complaining about everything!
No wonder why nobody is playing this game! The game sucks!
Welcome to the Real World CCP!
i don't like zitro but why did they change everything that was fun about the game
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