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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:04:00 -
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Simple question
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
480
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:04:00 -
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Yay |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
480
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:04:00 -
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Nay |
Aisha Ctarl
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:06:00 -
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No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
558
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:06:00 -
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Meh |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
451
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:07:00 -
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Should have read more. Why reward a mistake?
Don't consider it that bad. Just adapt for now, and put future SP in what you want to get. |
J Falcs
Bojo's School of the Trades
29
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:08:00 -
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Sure, why not. |
Kirah Sommersord
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:09:00 -
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Yes.
A number of the skills are not written correctly and display old skill bonuses and not the new ones.
In addition the period between the 06.05.2013 and the 14.05.2013 should be a grace period to get a feel for teh new meta and skills and provide feedback where as release should give everyone a clean slate. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
483
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:10:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec.
CCP lied to me about the various skills and what they do, they do not do what is advertised and even worse they do something completely different which i wouldnt waste SP into
This has happened on several skills and punishes all vehicle specalists
It is CCP problem, why should i get punished for CCP mistake? |
Sigberct Amni
Defensores Doctrina
47
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:10:00 -
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Why bother. Tools are still gonna mess up their sp and want another reset. Just charge 10 bucks per reset and make em an item you can sell on the market. |
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
681
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:11:00 -
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So that I have to go through all the skills again?
Get the **** out of here. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
149
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:12:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec. I was responsible enough and have everything where I want it, but I still say yay. Honestly what harm could it do? Plus it will be official launch so it just makes sense. And again I'm supporting this when all it will do for me is force me to spend 5 minutes to put everything back where I had it.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
382
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:12:00 -
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No thanks.
Would only vote yes for another wave of QQ missplaced SP threads. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
483
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:14:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:No thanks.
Would only vote yes for another wave of QQ missplaced SP threads.
At least the skill descriptions would actually be correct this time instead of me putting SP into a skill which does do what it says on the book |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
279
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:14:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Should have read more. Why reward a mistake?
Don't consider it that bad. Just adapt for now, and put future SP in what you want to get.
I read over everything a number of times. But false descriptions made me believe I was getting something, when I actually wasn't.
This is a problem with the Vehicle tree, so they should atleast give players who specced into this tree their SP back. |
TECH-SARGE
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:15:00 -
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If they rebalance it out again to make heavy suits, HMGs and tanks be feared again then yes until then keep it like it is.
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K7 Wez
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:19:00 -
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Hell yes. Or perhaps make it optional so those idi...... People that say no because they dont want to spend 2min reallocating their skills will be happy. |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
415
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:22:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec.
I looked at the skills, I read all the descriptions. I checked the market place to make sure that if i skilled up certain skills I would be able to make certain fits.
Then, after I had put my skill points in, I found out that one of the skills was "bugged". All my theory went right out the window along with my SP.
Now, upon further reading I find out the skill isn't bugged, but the description makes it sound useful, whereas the skill now is not, along with the entire HAV class.
No one said that they were removing a quarter of the PG from all vehicles, if they had I never would have specced into them.
I could have had a 6 million SP assault suit running around, now I am stuck with a set of skills for a class that CCP is in the process of killing without telling anyone. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
243
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:27:00 -
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I say yay for a respec or even a full reset. This is launch after all. |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
235
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:31:00 -
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I say yay to an optional respec I am happy with my sp where it is but others have been misled by dodgy descriptions and should be allowed a respec with updated skill descriptions. |
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Blondie Roads
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
17
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:32:00 -
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Nay |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2812
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:46:00 -
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If there was no better reason than "oops, I trained X and I wanted to train Y", then I'd say no.
But there was a mistake on CCP's end where a skill that lists a 5% increase to PG doesn't give the bonus it says, and when I had to train it past the point I would have wanted even if it's fixed before I found out there was a problem, that's something that warrants a respec even if the skill is fixed. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:57:00 -
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J Falcs wrote:Sure, why not.
Thats what I say. A lot of people obviously not to happy right now. May be nothing but duvolles out there i fthey did this. lol. I got most my core skills, but would spend about 4 million differently. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:19:00 -
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Yay.
I think many people are forgetting that this is technically still only a BETA, not the finished "official" release of the game and, as such, people should be encouraged to try as many different combinations of gear/skills as possible, in order to experiment, evaluate and provide feedback to the developers, which is what a BETA is for, after all.
Make it optional, so the people who don't want it don't have to do it, but people shouldn't be punished simply because they treated a BETA for the purpose in which it is intended, rather than as a finished game.
/my 2-ó |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
490
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:33:00 -
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I wasted skill points on assault dropships to discover they are broken and need fixing.
Skill respec please.
Yay.
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
226
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:46:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec.
Us speccing into max level stuff is exactly what was needed to prove the game was broken in terms of balance, otherwise the same HTFU fanbois would be touting games been out a day why dont we wait till we see more ppl in protos to see how the game is balanced blah blah blah,
Fact is if it wasnt for the immediate speccing into logi514 noone would have believed that they were the ultimate suit; people would shout spreadsheet statistics at us and tell us its balanced because of lack of sidearm 
This is what happens when people think that balance in FPS is determined by stats and spreadsheets. There is a human factor involved and they are far smarter than any system people can put forth because the system is also designed by humans, and someone will find a way to break it. We did it 15 seconds so you wouldnt have to hash this out months later.
Oh and sorry explain to me how miltia and basic frames would clearly show how the logi and assualt specialties are out of whack. That turrets are fundamentally broke?
Yea SP refund is totally warranted and not unprecedented in EVE when CCP so badly screws up a build like this or makes drastic changes, oh and to fix this game they will fundamentally need to change a lot of things(ive given my feedback elsewhere) that would warrant another refund just like they did with this build. There simply is no escaping it. But if they dont no biggie i went logi anyway  |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec
Orion Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:50:00 -
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Nah,
They stated it was the last reset. We should have act accordingly.
If a skill is bugged, what we want isn't a reset, we want that skill to be fixed to work as intended.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2820
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:59:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Nah,
They stated it was the last reset. We should have act accordingly.
If a skill is bugged, what we want isn't a reset, we want that skill to be fixed to work as intended.
Yes, because when we partly trained into the skill knowing we'd need at least something invested, then trained it higher than we'll need if it's fixed to work as described, making it work correctly after the fact will magically un-spend the excess SP we invested.
It will also un-spend SP that we put into related skills to try and buff the relevant stats in a way that wouldn't have been needed if the skill was working as intended.
And it will DEFINITELY help when they decide to instead change the description of the skill to match the new effect it has. That won't completely invalidate almost the entirety of the SP investments I've made into my alt.
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Kazeno Rannaa
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
166
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:02:00 -
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Since there has been so much confusion between people since they rushed into the new build with a head full of assumptions, then to give the QQ'ing people a breather from their own tears, MAYBE. |
xxMemphis
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:15:00 -
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Yay....not because I messed up or I didn't wait till I knew what was nerfed, but I would like to skill into something else now what I see how broken somethings are. I know for one I would not be a logi and would likely just go vehicles. |
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Hawkin P
Planetary Response Organization
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:16:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Simple question
I am going to assume that you meant Respec not Reset, I am sure that is what most people here who said yes assumed. I would vote yes for a Respec, not a reset. (Respec = We get all our skill points back again to spend as we choose. Reset = we get set back to 500k sp)
You should watch what you type we don't want CCP thinking we want our skill points reset back to 500k or 0, as they tend to over-react to some complaints launched here on these forums.
Either way it isn't at the top of my list of things that should be fixed or changed. |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:41:00 -
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Yes I vote for a respec. Not 100% need it but more saying to people that put their skillpoints wrong. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
34
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:50:00 -
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Adapt or Die |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
30
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:53:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec.
Oh, are you referring to the stat that shows us effective range of each weapon? Show that one to me, I must have missed it. Obviously somewhere it must tell me HMGs can't fire as far as a pitcher can throw a baseball...
Yes, respec. |
flesth
Red Star.
EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:54:00 -
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Yay,
at least most of us know what to do next time , ( i know what to do now when it Respec again ) without wasting sp
for those who say no , well they know what to do ........
some of us make mistakes and waste some on this and that, at least we be careful this time
2nd chance Respec make sence til next build or what ever ccp choose to be, tbh it is good idea for ccp to reset it again for us for the mistakes few of us have done
CCP please help us, most players would be happy in the long run.
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BUGSBUNNY LOONEY
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
20
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:55:00 -
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soon TM |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
162
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:56:00 -
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Respec for serious ISK outlay, 100 million or such, so the people who ****** up can spend the next few weeks saving up to pay for it. That, or nothing. No free get out of consequence card. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
180
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:03:00 -
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Yes
Too many issues with skill descriptions and lack of knowledge of nerfs. It shouldn't be expected to look at the market and analyze all of the weapon data.
It comes down to not being given proper data pre launch. If we'd known about the nerfs we would have been more cautious.
As it turns out even with that knowledge there would have been issues because they don't seem to know what direction the skills and bonuses are supposed to go. You'd really think there would have been a collaboration meeting to get everybody on the same page. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
180
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:04:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Respec for serious ISK outlay, 100 million or such, so the people who ****** up can spend the next few weeks saving up to pay for it. That, or nothing. No free get out of consequence card.
So you are saying we should get a ton of ISK in addition to being able to respec because they screwed up so bad.
As you say, no free get out of consequence card?
Or are you saying we should pay for their screw ups? |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
119
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:06:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec. I was responsible enough and have everything where I want it, but I still say yay. Honestly what harm could it do? Plus it will be official launch so it just makes sense. And again I'm supporting this when all it will do for me is force me to spend 5 minutes to put everything back where I had it.
I dig it. |
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Muramasa Armads
Defensores Doctrina
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:06:00 -
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If I were CCP I would allow anyone to respec if they wanted to, but that person would have to pay $50 to do it. That would be a good way for CCP to make money and it might make players more hesitant in the future to make such rash decisions with their SP. I vote Yay, but under those circumstances.
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2220
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:07:00 -
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Nay. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T
EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:08:00 -
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Yes |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2221
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:08:00 -
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Muramasa Armads wrote:If I were CCP I would allow anyone to respec if they wanted to, but that person would have to pay $50 to do it. That would be a good way for CCP to make money and it might make players more hesitant in the future to make such rash decisions with their SP. I vote Yay, but under those circumstances.
No. No SP-Respec for sale. That is just abuse waiting to happen. Even at $50, anyone with a deep enough wallet can constantly switch to the flavor of the month on the spot. |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
162
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Snaps Tremor wrote:Respec for serious ISK outlay, 100 million or such, so the people who ****** up can spend the next few weeks saving up to pay for it. That, or nothing. No free get out of consequence card. So you are saying we should get a ton of ISK in addition to being able to respec because they screwed up so bad. As you say, no free get out of consequence card? Or are you saying we should pay for their screw ups?
Pay 100 mil to respec. That's it. Not sure where all your tangents came from. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
Dark Taboo
74
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:17:00 -
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I vote yay for either a reset or a respec; I'll still take the same path regardless of which. The people that are voting no or want to make people pay for it (the pay to win argument would also grow stronger from that option) are just afraid of the competition getting tougher. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:48:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:I say yay to an optional respec I am happy with my sp where it is but others have been misled by dodgy descriptions and should be allowed a respec with updated skill descriptions.
Options are never a bad thing. |
Raptor514
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:07:00 -
[48] - Quote
Yay. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
181
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:11:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:Adapt or Die
You know what, you are right!
CCP better Adapted to their pissed off costumers or watch this game Die.
Yay to a respec |
AntanTheBeast
Foxhound Corporation
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:15:00 -
[50] - Quote
Nay
CCP spoils the community like babies they should not get everything they want just because they cry about it. People should of used their skill points wisely. |
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Kazio De Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc.
C0VEN
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:18:00 -
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Disaster is coming, game after this update is unplayable, I love the graphics upgrade skill upgrade, love star map but they completly brake fps part of game, look at all complain about imput lag problem with mouse, sensitivity , you stuck at almost any rock or bump on ground, you can throw granate further than is range of 90% of weapon, I notice more bugs in 30 minutes play in upspring then all my 2 month play in chromosome. And trust me if feel its bad it's realy realy bad news because im huge Dust 514 fanboy. |
Hauker Due
Rubber Chicken Bombers
31
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
yay |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:26:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec.
Did you just start using the forums? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:27:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Should have read more. Why reward a mistake?
Don't consider it that bad. Just adapt for now, and put future SP in what you want to get.
Have you not seen all the threads saying the vehicle powergrid skill doesn't work? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
67
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:29:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:I say yay to an optional respec I am happy with my sp where it is but others have been misled by dodgy descriptions and should be allowed a respec with updated skill descriptions. Options are never a bad thing.
No they aren't. Almost every game (except eve) has "short cuts" or "respect" in place. Allowing some one to change where they put their skills shouldn't be an issue. I think if players were allowed to BUY SKILLS. that would be a concern. Their is only so much variations one can spec to. Proto or not. and last time I checked they still die by laser, and shottys and RE's, and SMG, ext. 
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
240
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:31:00 -
[56] - Quote
Delirium Inferno wrote:Honestly what harm could it do?
They realize that you, and/or CCP, have put yourself at SP disadvantage and want to keep it that way, there's really no other reason for them to say nay. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
67
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:43:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Honestly what harm could it do?
They realize that you, and/or CCP, have put yourself at SP disadvantage and want to keep it that way, there's really no other reason for them to say nay.
There is no reason to say nay. +1 |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:53:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:I say yay to an optional respec I am happy with my sp where it is but others have been misled by dodgy descriptions and should be allowed a respec with updated skill descriptions. Options are never a bad thing. No they aren't. Almost every game (except eve) has "short cuts" or "respect" in place. Allowing some one to change where they put their skills shouldn't be an issue. I think if players were allowed to BUY SKILLS. that would be a concern. Their is only so much variations one can spec to. Proto or not. and last time I checked they still die by laser, and shottys and RE's, and SMG, ext.
Eve does have the neural remap option. They also have the resculpt for plex option. I wonder if we will ever get a "neural rewire" option, basically paying a Genolution tech to rewire our brains for different skill sets (think neuralyzer then retraining matrix-style). I am not saying that it should be easy or cheap, maybe make it cost 100m ISK and be something that could only be done once per year or something.
IDK, options are never a bad thing. |
tastzlike chicken
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:53:00 -
[59] - Quote
Yes.
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BLAZ3 X
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
20
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:28:00 -
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yay |
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Threshner Norack
Fleetworks
Silent Infinity
22
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:41:00 -
[61] - Quote
yay.
So much is broken at the moment i am afraid to use my SP. I'd like to go heavy but i hear its laughable. I only thank the people who went before me and used their SP so i didn't waste mine.
The game mechanics have changed so dramatically that people who played recent classes and loved them now hate the class they loved. That to me is a bit silly and a dramatic enough of a change to allow another sp reset at launch. |
TrusouLjah
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:16:00 -
[62] - Quote
yAY |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:16:00 -
[63] - Quote
Yay |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
365
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:18:00 -
[64] - Quote
Everyone needs to be reset to keep the game fair
Edit : cant believe i agree with the imps and some of these other people |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T
EoN.
62
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:19:00 -
[65] - Quote
Just SP, not AURUM or ISK. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
275
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:19:00 -
[66] - Quote
for the convince of other people yes, but i personally say no |
N7 JETI
FullMetal Brotherhood
2
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
Yay |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
372
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:36:00 -
[68] - Quote
Nope.
I don't have a problem with skills that were mislabelled being refunded though. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
886
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
No.
Not only do I not have the aurum for boosters that went with getting my 10mil SP. But I don't want the grind again especially with so many SP sinks included in this build.
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Ordo Malachai
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:42:00 -
[70] - Quote
Full reset - Aye.
(not a chance to change skills, but full SP wipe and refund of AUR - only way to be sensible for game release ) After all, we are Beta testers, not specially entitled crybabies. We knew what we were signing on for. |
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Balzich Rotaine
Rotaine Shipping Inc
51
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:42:00 -
[71] - Quote
Nay |
Levi McDaniel
The Phoenix Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
Sigberct Amni wrote:Why bother. Tools are still gonna mess up their sp and want another reset. Just charge 10 bucks per reset and make em an item you can sell on the market.
An Aurum Respec. I like this idea. |
Deadeye Dic
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:47:00 -
[73] - Quote
I say burn it all down....take everything away on the 14th. Refund all the AUR we have ever spent in Open Beta and reset us to day one plebs. Everyone starts off on the same footing and everyone can make the SP grind......I'm all for that. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
10
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:54:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ordo Malachai wrote:Full reset - Aye.
(not a chance to change skills, but full SP wipe and refund of AUR - only way to be sensible for game release ) After all, we are Beta testers, not specially entitled crybabies. We knew what we were signing on for.
Unless they plan on implementing an SP-based matchmaking system within the next week, this would also be the only way to avoid new players being discouraged and chased away from the game due to being pub-stomped by fully geared vets on day one.
Maybe this isn't such a bad idea... |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
194
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:58:00 -
[75] - Quote
Yay.
Because even if you read the skill bonus labels thoroughly, some of them are labeled wrong/don't do what they say.
Respec and have CCP hire a good editor. |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:59:00 -
[76] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec. CCP lied to me about the various skills and what they do, they do not do what is advertised and even worse they do something completely different which i wouldnt waste SP into This has happened on several skills and punishes all vehicle specalists It is CCP problem, why should i get punished for CCP mistake?
...
So you weren't smart enough to read the skill descriptions when pouring SP into them?
Your fault.
EDIT: And if the skill says it does one thing but doesn't do that, then just wait and stop whining about it.
God so many whine threads on here lately. CCP needs to start moderating their forums more by locking more shitposting threads... |
Kein-Engel
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
57
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
Delirium Inferno wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec. I was responsible enough and have everything where I want it, but I still say yay. Honestly what harm could it do? Plus it will be official launch so it just makes sense. And again I'm supporting this when all it will do for me is force me to spend 5 minutes to put everything back where I had it.
Why don't more people think like this. If you are happy with how you spent your SP, it should only take 5-10 minutes to put it back after a reset. |
Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
20
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:15:00 -
[78] - Quote
Due to the fact that they changed many things around, raised many requirements and had direct typos, a respec is the least we deserve.
Frankly, I don't see a problem with offering respecs for AUR. What's it really gonna hurt long-term besides making players a little more versatile. I mean, who plays a shooter and sticks to just one role? |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
173
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:21:00 -
[79] - Quote
Yay!
With every logi fiber |
VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
56
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:26:00 -
[80] - Quote
Aisha Ctarl wrote:No.
You should have been responsible enough to wait, read the descriptions, and do some testing before screwing up your respec. If you're new to DUST I have a little pity for you, but if you're a veteran of DUST or even worse, a DUST and EVE player, I have ZERO remorse for you.
In short, no one deserves a respec.
So basically your reasoning is "you deserve it?"
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
27
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:44:00 -
[81] - Quote
Reset: nay.
Respec: YAY
Don't punish me for broken and misleading skills on CCPs fault. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
361
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:48:00 -
[82] - Quote
Nope. Reimbursement for those skills that were incorrectly described should be in place though: vehicle engineering, vehicle shield extenders using dropsuit skill prereqs etc. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
27
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:52:00 -
[83] - Quote
trollsroyce wrote:Nope. Reimbursement for those skills that were incorrectly described should be in place though: vehicle engineering, vehicle shield extenders using dropsuit skill prereqs etc.
Yes but I feel that's too hard for CCP if they can't even get their descriptions right |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty
EoN.
23
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:53:00 -
[84] - Quote
Yay for respec. Not reset |
Vethosis
Universal Allies Inc.
32
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:00:00 -
[85] - Quote
Yay |
Shiro Mokuzan
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
106
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:06:00 -
[86] - Quote
I'd like to see a full SP reset. It makes sense since this this will be the actual launch of the game. |
Ashes Rain
Ashes Two Ashes
4
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:18:00 -
[87] - Quote
yay |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
105
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:40:00 -
[88] - Quote
Nay. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
8
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:02:00 -
[89] - Quote
Cause and effect situation
If 1 anybody that bought a merc pack opts for the refund, then everyone will have their sp reset. 
oh and Nay
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Ordo Malachai
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:06:00 -
[90] - Quote
Smoky Fingers wrote:Cause and effect situation If 1 anybody that bought a merc pack opts for the refund, then everyone will have their sp reset. oh and Nay
Well i'm getting a reset on my second account, so I guess you are stuffed. This account no, unless everyone is reset - i'm happy with my SP choices, that was never the reason why I believe a reset should be done.
Stop thinking that its all about 'us'. Its not, its about the thousands of others who will try the game after 15 May. |
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Sir kill2119
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:18:00 -
[91] - Quote
Read up on "Reskill for a price" or my name |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
8
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:27:00 -
[92] - Quote
Ordo Malachai wrote:Smoky Fingers wrote:Cause and effect situation If 1 anybody that bought a merc pack opts for the refund, then everyone will have their sp reset. oh and Nay This account no, unless everyone is reset Stop thinking that its all about 'us'. Its not, its about the thousands of others who will try the game after 15 May.
and dont think about the player-base that doesnt exist till after the 15th of may, a week away but still too soon. |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
9
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:56:00 -
[93] - Quote
The rumor is already spreading and a lot are hoping for a reset because to much has changed and people are like they want to spec into something else because they got disappointed. |
LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
Orion Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:58:00 -
[94] - Quote
Nay. u guys messed up and now people cry about it? |
stormyuk
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 07:01:00 -
[95] - Quote
Yes, its end of beta and launch. |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
9
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Posted - 2013.05.09 07:27:00 -
[96] - Quote
Ignore the double post this is the post that matters the most! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2837
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Posted - 2013.05.09 07:33:00 -
[97] - Quote
Selinate deux wrote:...
So you weren't smart enough to read the skill descriptions when pouring SP into them?
Your fault.
EDIT: And if the skill says it does one thing but doesn't do that, then just wait and stop whining about it.
God so many whine threads on here lately. CCP needs to start moderating their forums more by locking more shitposting threads...
I read the descriptions on several vehicle skills, found the ones I needed to skill into, invested a small amount, then checked the fitting I was planning to create to see how much (if any) more I needed to train. I found I needed not only more of the basic skills I had started training, but also a fitting bonus from another skill related to one of the modules I planned to use. Even with training those skills to the level that had - at the time - looked like I needed, I still can't create the fitting I was aiming for, because the skills don't apply correctly. If I wait and they fix the skill, I've still got SP I wasted by over-skilling. If they don't fix it, what was the benefit in waiting? I still need a respec either way.
And while CCP have acknowledged ONE skill that isn't working as described, they've ONLY ackonwledged ONE, and there are others, and they haven't acknowledged the modules which require you to train infantry skills in order to unlock vehicle modules, and they also haven't given a straight answer on what they consider the problem to be (incorrect description or incorrect effect) and what the "fix" will be. |
lobo christy
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:06:00 -
[98] - Quote
NO |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
329
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:10:00 -
[99] - Quote
trollsroyce wrote:Nope. Reimbursement for those skills that were incorrectly described should be in place though: vehicle engineering, vehicle shield extenders using dropsuit skill prereqs etc.
These two skills not working ruin vehicles all together, so I expect nothing but a full reset. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
329
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:11:00 -
[100] - Quote
Sir kill2119 wrote:Read up on "Reskill for a price" or my name
I'm not paying for CCP's mistakes. |
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semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
433
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:12:00 -
[101] - Quote
Comon guys stop with this thread already. CCP already confirmed they will offer respecs to ppl who petition GMs once the skill tree has all been corrected reworked in the next couple weeks. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
329
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:13:00 -
[102] - Quote
semperfi1999 wrote:Comon guys stop with this thread already. CCP already confirmed they will offer respecs to ppl who petition GMs once the skill tree has all been corrected reworked in the next couple weeks.
Source? |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
195
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:21:00 -
[103] - Quote
EDIT: Nevermind. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
433
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:53:00 -
[104] - Quote
Knight SoIaire wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Comon guys stop with this thread already. CCP already confirmed they will offer respecs to ppl who petition GMs once the skill tree has all been corrected reworked in the next couple weeks. Source?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594 |
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