my caldari logi has 679 shields 376 armor sprint speed is 4.7m.. to some this may seem OP.. but this set up cost 130k isk per death and 12million sp to spec into.. so basically OP is trying to say is 12mill sp shouldnt allow more skills dmg dmg reduction as 5 mill sp..

fyi 12mill sp maxed out weapon, dmg mods, shield ext, suits, & lvl 4 cpu/pg upgrades.. that means another 10mill is needed for tools, armor rep, armor plates, shield reg & rechrg.. logis OP???? id think b4 you speak.. any other class is speced & specialised around 15 mill... logis 25 mill if not more.. OH BTW if yall read as goid as QQ you could of specd what you think is OP... so CCP please dont punish other ppls decisions and hard earned sp b/c D-bags are to stupid to fend for themselves...
nuff said have a nice day!

Doesn't change the fact that most players are treating this as an Oficcer Caldari Assault. Ever thought about it?

The main reason you are now using this suit is because of how easy it is to tank damage and for those many times I killed you with my SMG while you previously used Heavy.

Logi needs to be sidearm only to better fit their role, don't come in with the bs "we specialized into it so it's ok" when everyone currently treats this as a slayer.

They are what will be referred to as LOGIPROS, they are not LOGIBROS. They are using logi suits but they are not logibros. A logibro is a dedication, a calling of the highest order. These are killers, slayers, wolves hiding behind the uniform of a medic/mechanic/and a generally good guy. These men are to be feared. Watch yourselves and don't be fooled by their appearance. Minmatar and Amarr are still logibro in my book. I haven't tested the Caldari or Gallente (requires another 8mill sp to do so) but the others are definitely more geared to Logibro. Gallente has a huge possibility with all those low slots to be an amazing LogiBro or wild armor tank, we will see in time.

My first response the the Caldari Log was the same. It is an amazing shield tanking machine of death, an with the AMARR suit only having 3H/3L how can it compare? If these are the final builds of the suits, and we must assume that they are, then the balance would have to come in currently available items (flux and MD) or future items not yet out. Unfortunately that is what it is.

But, if ever a new item/mod comes out that completely destroys the shields of these players they will be sad, call for a nerf, and the whole thing starts over. They have skilled proto. So they must either make it work in other ways or skill into a new class. Or (hopefully a respec option is eventually put out) wait till may 14th and pray for a respec so you too can be cool like a logiPRO

Logistic Suits are getting a little too much i say.They are creating a Meta staple of Massive total HP Assault units with unlimited restrictions and unlimited custom-ability...

They are supposed to be SUPPORT dropsuits.And they are ABUSED into creating Monstrous Assault Loadouts.
AND IM TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HE CALDARI LOGI

What prevents a player of Tanking with , say a Calgari Logi?
And this is not Regular Tanking. This is Heavy+ level tanking with Assault class speed.

2-3 Complex shield Extenders (that get a total of 25% efficiency EACH at level 5 Caldari Logi , 82.5+ per shield ext)
2-3 Complex damage mods
Whatever the **** they want on their 4 low powered mod slots?

Any weapon they want...say Ar's or Shotguns?
This is what players are using the massive CPU/PG and slots from the Logi and not what they are meant to, support.

So i say Limit the weapons that Logis can use, so that they stick to their role of support, or change class:

Sidearms
Swarm launchers
Laser Rifles
And depending on how they turn out, maybe Plasma Guns.


EDIT: i just fought a Caldari Logi bro from Pink fluffy bounty hunters.He was packing a Duvolle AR and Beautifull 650 shielding + who knows how much armor.125 maybe?.

Thats a 775 total HP Assault with 6.6 sprinting speed.(IF HE DIDNT USE SPRINTING SPEED MODS,which i doubt.

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a flux, a headshot from laser rifle, scrambler pistol & in the future from the scrambler rifle and the caldari logi has no shields any more. problem? it is not like the big yellow head is hard to hit at all, the logi suits strafe speed is not very good.

Dramatically lower the PG/CPU of Logistics suits and give all Logistics suits a sizable PG/CPU fitting bonus to Equipment.

There, that's an EVE-like solution to the problem and the fitting slots aren't even touched.

At the moment it's almost the equivalent (obviously the Logistics suits still need decent combat ability) of people flying around in Exequrors instead of Thoraxes because they're far better at the Thorax's intended combat role.

This thread is still the most idioc thing I've seen on the forums. Assaults get damage bonuses to slay and logis get bonuses for survival. Instead of crying for nerfs, brainstorm and suggest ways to buff your own respective nich to compensate. Make it an arms race, not a nerf war.

Shotguns are a close range personal defense weapon.

Anyhow. It was just my opinion. Again , i'll just wait till people realize the full assault potential of the Caldari Logi....

I KNOW why so many people are against removing Assault weapons from logi... i know...But Logi suits are first Support, and since last patch there has been less support and more tanking. But ok...

Im just ahead of my time.....

The problem is.. In my eyes.. This suit should have been the opposite of the Gallente suit in terms of slots. 5 highs and 2 lows. People can and will easily abuse this suit by running NO equipment on it and dual tanking complex armor on the lows and damage mods with complex buffed shielding on the highs. So the people replying "zomg just flux" dont get it really. This suit absolutely has a better assault platform than the assault.. Platform. That makes.... Sense. The answer? Give this suit 4 equipment slots and make it the shield tank opposite to Gallente with 5 highs and 2 lows or whatever the **** it would be. See CCP. Balance. THATS HOW ITS DONE.

Sub-machineguns are close range personal defense weapon.
Shotguns are CQC offensive tool. Commando weapons.

Not every suit has to be limited to one specified role. If Logis want to run as assaults +1 and invested the SP, then go for it. I've been in squads where I'm not needed as a medic and switch over to more offensive fittings. It's called versatility.

If you feel something is imbalanced compared to your class, suggest ways to improve it. Stop trying to bring others down. We all spend the same SP and commit to our roles. How would you feel if someone wanted to nerf something you use?

I hope Remnant sees this thread. With all the hustle and bustle around uprising, he could probably use a good laugh.

I played heavy. NErfed.
Used HMG's - Nerfed
Use scouts - Now, all other dropsuits got improvements, scouts are the same crap.
I use shotgun - Nefed
I used AR's - RAnge nerfed.

You see me whining that my scout cant get shot once cuz it evaporates. Or me complaining because Heavies are close to useless and a logi can run faster and tank better? NOPE.

Im just asking for Supports to act like supports.


@ Balzich Rotaine : Well yeah...Pretty much. But usually, say 90% of the time, the shotgun is for infiltration purposes. Attack purposes....

I played heavy. NErfed.
Used HMG's - Nerfed
Use scouts - Now, all other dropsuits got improvements, scouts are the same crap.
I use shotgun - Nefed
I used AR's - RAnge nerfed.

You see me whining that my scout cant get shot once cuz it evaporates. Or me complaining because Heavies are close to useless and a logi can run faster and tank better? NOPE.

Im just asking for Supports to act like supports.


@ Balzich Rotaine : Well yeah...Pretty much. But usually, say 90% of the time, the shotgun is for infiltration purposes. Attack purposes....