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Icarus Rhee
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:12:00 -
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Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now.
Shooters shouldn't even be played with gamepads. The first shooters, which pioneered this type of game, were built from the ground up to support keyboard/mouse. So, anyone playing with a gamepad is an idiot, or isn't a serious shooter.
Kb/m isn't an advantage, it's just the way the game is supposed to be played. It uses your actual reflexes and judgement, not the in-game avatar's. Not sure if you're capable of making sense of that logic, but it is sound. |
General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:13:00 -
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Nope. Now you are same as the rest of us. Suck it. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:14:00 -
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CCP - don't mess with things you don't know how to improve...
mouse input = camera control
easy |
Freyar Tarkin
Escapist Magazine
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:14:00 -
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You know what would be awesome? The left half of the Dualshock 3, with a mouse.
General Sideboob wrote:Nope. Now you are same as the rest of us. Suck it. It'll kill it for me and plenty of others. The inconsistency is causing a bit of motion sickness. |
Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:15:00 -
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To the OP:
Yes, the mouse feels like moving underwater Should it be fixed? No: free-moving mouse makes DS3 users useless.
If you expect balance between mouse and DS3, mouse has to be slowed down since DS3 can't go faster. I feels unnatural, it is unnatural after playing a PC shooter, but you should hold a couple of weeks to get used to (or swap to DS3) and if you keep disliking it, you can always leave for real, watching you throwing tantrums gets boring after a while (even if that's an alt made exclusively for that ) |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:15:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Nope. Now you are same as the rest of us. Suck it. but if the mouse inputs are genuinely messed up, the controller users now have an advantage |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:17:00 -
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Now we're both equal gg. |
General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:17:00 -
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Crazed Capitalist wrote:General Sideboob wrote:Nope. Now you are same as the rest of us. Suck it. but if the mouse inputs are genuinely messed up, the controller users now have an advantage
Good. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:17:00 -
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Lasarte Ioni wrote:To the OP: Yes, the mouse feels like moving underwater Should it be fixed? No: free-moving mouse makes DS3 users useless. If you expect balance between mouse and DS3, mouse has to be slowed down since DS3 can't go faster. I feels unnatural, it is unnatural after playing a PC shooter, but you should hold a couple of weeks to get used to (or swap to DS3) and if you keep disliking it, you can always leave for real, watching you throwing tantrums gets boring after a while (even if that's an alt made exclusively for that )
"mouse is too good for FPS, so we nerfed it." ---CCP
FUUU |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:17:00 -
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Icarus Rhee wrote:Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now. Shooters shouldn't even be played with gamepads. The first shooters, which pioneered this type of game, were built from the ground up to support keyboard/mouse. So, anyone playing with a gamepad is an idiot, or isn't a serious shooter. Kb/m isn't an advantage, it's just the way the game is supposed to be played. It uses your actual reflexes and judgement, not the in-game avatar's. Not sure if you're capable of making sense of that logic, but it is sound.
Wow please just STFU! This is PS3!!! a Console!!! Obviously I am gonna use the CONSOLE controller to play the game on the PS3 CONSOLE! Wow you are a moron.. |
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Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
7
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:17:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Crazed Capitalist wrote:General Sideboob wrote:Nope. Now you are same as the rest of us. Suck it. but if the mouse inputs are genuinely messed up, the controller users now have an advantage Good. so you admit being a moron? Also the argument that this is a console game is stupid. The PS3 included KB/M support, and that was marketed and a big deal to many people |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
7
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:19:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:20:00 -
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"mouse is too good for FPS so we nerfed it"
The only game company in the whole world would actually say something ridiculous like this. CCP. |
General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:20:00 -
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THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD EVER
SO MANY FRESH, VIRGIN TEARS! |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
404
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:20:00 -
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I'm glad they tweaked the mouse settings, kb/m had far too much of an aiming advantage over DS3 users. Hopefully now it's more of an even playing field... this is a console game after all. |
Freyar Tarkin
Escapist Magazine
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:21:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Wow please just STFU! This is PS3!!! a Console!!! Obviously I am gonna use the CONSOLE controller to play the game on the PS3 CONSOLE! Wow you are a moron..
Go ahead, but we don't limit your input range. Consider having a ring put around your thumbstick's range limiting you to 60% throw. |
mongahu
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:21:00 -
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Ccp had stated before that the mouse turn speed would be set at the same speed as a controler. However that was the last build. What we have now is not that. It is much slower and broke. They will fix it I'm sure. Ccp has been struggling with mouse control since the build it was introduced. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
267
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:23:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:introducing unnecessary lag and "disruption" to the control is not "balance"
there is only one way to describe this logic: "retaded" STFU, my brother is "mentally impaired". Dickk. |
Matakage
WildCard Ninja Clan
30
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:24:00 -
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To all you mouse and keyboard users, I just have to say....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Poor babies don't get their split-second 360 turn headshots anymore. Aww, so sad. You're constrained to a realistic human capacity to aim and shoot? Oh crap! Now you might actually have to think about getting tactical advantages on your opponents by predicting their movement path and hitting them from the least expected angles of attack! You know, like everyone else who plays the game without an aiming advantage over everyone else.
I'm willing to bet your ability to acquire targets within your field of view is not significantly altered, but if it is then that's truly messed up. However, if the game is now preventing you from acquiring targets nearly instantaneously from a 360 degree radius, then that's what we call "fair." |
Mitsuko'Souma
DUST514 IS GAYER THAN AIDS
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:24:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD EVER
SO MANY FRESH, VIRGIN TEARS!
^ |
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Freyar Tarkin
Escapist Magazine
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:24:00 -
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mongahu wrote:Ccp had stated before that the mouse turn speed would be set at the same speed as a controler. However that was the last build. What we have now is not that. It is much slower and broke. They will fix it I'm sure. Ccp has been struggling with mouse control since the build it was introduced.
Basically we have the turn-limit (which I can deal with, seriously..), mouse acceleration, smoothing (that can be turned off, thankfully), negative mouse acceleration (mouse input slows with faster inputs meaning it's not 1:1), aim assist (that regardless of what I do still causes aim assist to kick in)...
... all on top an even narrower field of view.
Matakage wrote:Poor babies don't get their split-second 360 turn headshots anymore. Aww, so sad. You're constrained to a realistic human capacity to aim and shoot? Oh crap! Now you might actually have to think about getting tactical advantages on your opponents by predicting their movement path and hitting them from the least expected angles of attack! You know, like everyone else who plays the game without an aiming advantage over everyone else.
Says a dude who enjoys aim-assist, and huge hitboxes, right? Who has more advantages in that respect, especially when the console does that work? |
General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:26:00 -
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Fact of the matter is all the KBM dorks thought they had skills because the rest of us were too lazy to plug a mouse in and went with the DS3 instead.
Now CCP has told them they don't have skills, and made the playing field more even. Ha ha ha. Kiss it bro. You gonna get tore in half now unless you learn to play. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
166
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:26:00 -
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Yep, mouse users have joined the QQ coalition.
My tear cup runneth over again! |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
166
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:26:00 -
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Heh, how many times have mouse users said HTFU to non-mouse users? I wonder. |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
7
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:26:00 -
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Matakage wrote:To all you mouse and keyboard users, I just have to say....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Poor babies don't get their split-second 360 turn headshots anymore. Aww, so sad. You're constrained to a realistc human capacity to aim and shoot? Oh crap! Now you might actually have to think about getting tactical advantages on your opponents by predicting their movement path and hitting them from the least expected angles of attack! You know, like everyone else who plays the game without an aiming advantage over everyone else.
I'm willing to bet your ability to acquire targets within your field of view is not significantly altered, but if it is then that's truly messed up. However, if the game is now preventing you from acquiring targets nearly instantaneously from a 360 degree radius, then that's what we call "fair." Controllers are far from realistic human capacity, mouse is much closer. All those "tactical" advantages are done by all players. Don't blame us because you choose to use an objectively worse control scheme |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:27:00 -
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"We still have Keyboard and Mouse support, but our giant tank of molasses exploded yesterday..."
Surely they'll get a clean-up crew on this. Surely.
Suuuuuuurely. |
Freyar Tarkin
Escapist Magazine
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:27:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Fact of the matter is all the KBM dorks thought they had skills because the rest of us were too lazy to plug a mouse in and went with the DS3 instead.
Now CCP has told them they don't have skills, and made the playing field more even. Ha ha ha. Kiss it bro. You gonna get tore in half now unless you learn to play.
Nope, I'll likely drop this game and go back to EvE and Battlefield. If the input isn't good, and the field of view makes me physically ill, I won't stick with it and CCP will lose money along with reputation (as I can't recommend it to any of my friends right now.)
You've got this weird opinion that less players is good for the community, remember that this is a free-to-play game, more players is better. |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
79
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:28:00 -
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remove mouse and keyboard from gameplay. make it fair for ps3 users /thread. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
217
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:28:00 -
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Freyar Tarkin wrote:mongahu wrote:Ccp had stated before that the mouse turn speed would be set at the same speed as a controler. However that was the last build. What we have now is not that. It is much slower and broke. They will fix it I'm sure. Ccp has been struggling with mouse control since the build it was introduced. Basically we have the turn-limit (which I can deal with, seriously..), mouse acceleration, smoothing (that can be turned off, thankfully), negative mouse acceleration (mouse input slows with faster inputs meaning it's not 1:1), aim assist (that regardless of what I do still causes aim assist to kick in)... ... all on top an even narrower field of view. Matakage wrote:Poor babies don't get their split-second 360 turn headshots anymore. Aww, so sad. You're constrained to a realistic human capacity to aim and shoot? Oh crap! Now you might actually have to think about getting tactical advantages on your opponents by predicting their movement path and hitting them from the least expected angles of attack! You know, like everyone else who plays the game without an aiming advantage over everyone else. Says a dude who enjoys aim-assist, and huge hitboxes, right? Who has more advantages in that respect, especially when the console does that work?
Stop crying you aren't getting a buff against controller users no more. |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
8
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:28:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Fact of the matter is all the KBM dorks thought they had skills because the rest of us were too lazy to plug a mouse in and went with the DS3 instead.
Now CCP has told them they don't have skills, and made the playing field more even. Ha ha ha. Kiss it bro. You gonna get tore in half now unless you learn to play. Learn to play. Mouse users don't rely on aim assist. Maybe if you weren't choosing an inferior controller |
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