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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:19:00 -
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Imposing a speed limit (turning speed) to mouse users is literally stupid |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
74
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:21:00 -
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lol i guess u now move the same speed a a ds3 user
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Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
236
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:23:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Imposing a speed limit (turning speed) to mouse users is literally stupid
You forgot this is a Playstation 3 consol game right... |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
22
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:23:00 -
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Mouse feels like its under control of deadzone and acceleration. Unusable. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
186
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:25:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Mouse feels like its under control of deadzone and acceleration. Unusable.
Ive gone from being able to headshot a moving target to not being able to hit a target thats standing still...in front of me |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:27:00 -
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mouse feels like using your mouse to control a controller to play the game
you know what im saying
the mouse is not controlling the game
but it's like the mouse is controlling a controller, and in turn this controller controls the game
this is so ****ing ********
the mouse movement does not translate into action directly (which is ideal)
the mouse is controlling a virtual joystick to play the game...
the amount i move with the mouse is NOT consistant with the movements on screen
it is impossible... whoever CCP decided they should somehow limit the mouse users should be fired |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
671
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:28:00 -
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You are bad and should feel ashamed of yourself.
Also, damn the railgun now turns fast with a 6400 DPI mouse, had to step the DPI down quite a bit to properly aim. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:30:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:You are bad and should feel ashamed of yourself.
Also, damn the railgun now turns fast with a 6400 DPI mouse, had to step the DPI down quite a bit to properly aim.
You are too slow to feel the effect lol |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
100
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:31:00 -
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I can't aim assault rifles for crap now. I can at least use SMGs and shotguns somewhat well... but assault rifle users are screwed.
CCP, fix this **** or I'm gone. No one competitive is going to take this game seriously as an FPS with you screwing over KB/M users.
I don't know what you did, but you screwed us over bad. |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:31:00 -
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The mouse does feel a little off, I hope it gets fixed or at the least not made worse. I can't play shooters with a console controller. It's like going into a boxing match with one armed tied behind your back, it's just worse.
Edit: I haven't played since the update, is it different? |
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Chief Jon Redcorn
GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA
12
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:32:00 -
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working as intended |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
671
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:34:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Rasatsu wrote:You are bad and should feel ashamed of yourself.
Also, damn the railgun now turns fast with a 6400 DPI mouse, had to step the DPI down quite a bit to properly aim. You are too slow to feel the effect lol
Nope. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:36:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Rasatsu wrote:You are bad and should feel ashamed of yourself.
Also, damn the railgun now turns fast with a 6400 DPI mouse, had to step the DPI down quite a bit to properly aim. You are too slow to feel the effect lol Nope.
of course you are not feeling it, you are too slow |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2713
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:41:00 -
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Turn speed cap is legit.
All the controls feel way different. Oddly, I can get precision aim with my sixaxis when there are no enemies nearby, but if there's a guy in my face, my aim swings wildly all over the place when I try to line him up. It's like turning auto-aim off turns a reverse auto-aim on instead. Might have to try turning it on and see if that fixes things and lets me aim normally. |
Infekti0n
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
2
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:41:00 -
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Unplayable with KB/M. The main reason i played this game is because the KB/M worked so flawless. If they keep it this way, im quitting next week. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
100
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:43:00 -
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Infekti0n wrote:Unplayable with KB/M. The main reason i played this game is because the KB/M worked so flawless. If they keep it this way, im quitting next week.
Agreed. |
ZiwZih
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
110
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:47:00 -
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Things are weird within this build.
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Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:54:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Imposing a speed limit (turning speed) to mouse users is literally stupid You forgot this is a Playstation 3 consol game right...
Why does this matter? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
164
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:59:00 -
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Heh, the mouse got nerfed! I was getting jealous of how easy mouse users were moving around and making head shots.
I'm guessing there will be adjustments until DS3 and mouse users are approximately event... ? |
Mitsuko'Souma
DUST514 IS GAYER THAN AIDS
16
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:00:00 -
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Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now. |
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Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:01:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Heh, the mouse got nerfed! I was getting jealous of how easy mouse users were moving around and making head shots.
I'm guessing there will be adjustments until DS3 and mouse users are approximately event... ?
Why should mouse users be handicapped?
Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now.
Just thought you should know, the PS3 launched with KB/M support, and was a big talking point because of it. So this idea that "it's a PS3 game" doesn't matter, the console supports both control schemes. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:01:00 -
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time to sell my PS3 if CCP adopts this "nerf mouse" logic which is completely unnecessary and retaded |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2713
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:03:00 -
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For the game to actually be playable on sixaxis, there NEEDS to be a turn speed cap applied to mouse users, just like there's one built in to the other control schemes the game uses.
It's FAIR and LEGITIMATE to limit turn speed.
The controls are botched for other reasons, but this isn't a problem, it's part of the game's balance. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:05:00 -
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introducing unnecessary lag and "disruption" to the control is not "balance"
there is only one way to describe this logic: "retaded" |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
215
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:06:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Imposing a speed limit (turning speed) to mouse users is literally stupid Quote:mouse feels like using your mouse to control a controller to play the game
you know what im saying
the mouse is not controlling the game
but it's like the mouse is controlling a controller, and in turn this controller controls the game
this is so ****ing ********
the mouse movement does not translate into action directly (which is ideal)
the mouse is controlling a virtual joystick to play the game...
the amount i move with the mouse is NOT consistant with the movements on screen
it is impossible... whoever CCP decided they should somehow limit the mouse users should be fired
please make mouse raw input movement
remove all "filters" and "accelerations" and everythingjust simple raw input to camera control pleaseno "speed limits" "virtual joystick" bullshet please Also there is input lag please fix this
DS3 characters should get 1k more shields AND armor over KB/M users. |
Mitsuko'Souma
DUST514 IS GAYER THAN AIDS
16
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:07:00 -
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Crazed Capitalist wrote:Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now. Just thought you should know, the PS3 launched with KB/M support, and was a big talking point because of it. So this idea that "it's a PS3 game" doesn't matter, the console supports both control schemes.
Yes, it does, but previously KB/M users had a massive advantage over controller users, which is just wrong in so many ways. Now they are trying to make them equal, I no longer have a problem with KB/M support. It's really funny to see all the mouse users crying.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
673
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:09:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Rasatsu wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:Rasatsu wrote:You are bad and should feel ashamed of yourself.
Also, damn the railgun now turns fast with a 6400 DPI mouse, had to step the DPI down quite a bit to properly aim. You are too slow to feel the effect lol Nope. of course you are not feeling it, you are too slow
Oh yeah, go ahead tell the dedicated tanker how his mouse is not up to task.
Next up, instruct a homeless guy on how to keep down cheap liquore. |
Freyar Tarkin
Escapist Magazine
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:10:00 -
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Controls are royally screwed. Mouse input is a pain in the ass simply because it's always so inconsistent. Firing from the hip? Input's fine. Firing with the sights? Input is slowed down to a crawl. Firing from the hip at a target that's moving across your screen? Not only does aim assist get in the way it actively slows down input while you're trying to hit a target too.
Look, I understand the idea of needing to cap rotation speed (even if it's annoying as hell to a mouse user), but I can live with that. The rest of this stuff though? Such a pain.
It seems like the promise for mouse and keyboard support really ought to just be taken out, because it seems like for every time they push to try and do something proper, controller players whine which makes the keyboard and mouse unusable. One step forward, two steps back kind of thing. Maybe I ought to give up and just try the Move again.
Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Yes, it does, but previously KB/M users had a massive advantage over controller users, which is just wrong in so many ways. Now they are trying to make them equal, I no longer have a problem with KB/M support. It's really funny to see all the mouse users crying.
Get a mouse and keyboard then if it's better for this type of game? (I use both inputs depending on what I'm doing at the time.) |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:11:00 -
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Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Crazed Capitalist wrote:Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now. Just thought you should know, the PS3 launched with KB/M support, and was a big talking point because of it. So this idea that "it's a PS3 game" doesn't matter, the console supports both control schemes. Yes, it does, but previously KB/M users had a massive advantage over controller users, which is just wrong in so many ways. Now they are trying to make them equal, I no longer have a problem with KB/M support. It's really funny to see all the mouse users crying.
still not a valid reason to "nerf mouse"
do you even realize how stupid it sounds?
"because mouse are too good for aiming... we are introducing input lag, movement adjustments and smoothing (disruptions), and also non-linear translation of mouse movement into game data..." |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:11:00 -
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Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Crazed Capitalist wrote:Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Cry some more why don't you. This is a PS3 game, therefore should use PS3 controller. U just mad bc your kdr is going to drop like a rock now that you don't have the huge advantage that using a mouse gives. Guess we will find out who is actually good at this game and who isn't now. Just thought you should know, the PS3 launched with KB/M support, and was a big talking point because of it. So this idea that "it's a PS3 game" doesn't matter, the console supports both control schemes. Yes, it does, but previously KB/M users had a massive advantage over controller users, which is just wrong in so many ways. Now they are trying to make them equal, I no longer have a problem with KB/M support. It's really funny to see all the mouse users crying.
It wasn't an issue, it was just a better control scheme. If you preferred a controller use a controller, if you preferred a mouse, use that. You don't gimp a control scheme just to make others happy. Controller users already had aim assist |
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