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Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative 221	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:38:00 - [31] - Quote gbghg wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Oh look pilot controlled turret, really nice now that would be usefull if you wouldnt need to put the nose of the dropship into the ground to hit some 1 below you. Cause you can only shot something thats stright infront of you. Just bollocks if you ask me. My first thoughts too. This does seem completely cumbersome. As if flying and dodging AV isn't hard enough now you have to be in a flight trajectory to the ground in order to hit someone with a small missile? Yeah. Don't know what I expected but that seems very disappointing. turret is on the aircrafts nose, the nose points down towards the ground because it's a VTOL craft, to move it needs to tilt, by tilting fowards, nose points forwards, down towards the ground. what exactly is the problem here? Fly along with your dropship aimed forward, keep a death grip on your upward thrust, hold your fire button. Congrats, you've just conducted a perfect strafing run.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 229	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:41:00 - [32] - Quote gbghg wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: It's like the gunship from Battlefield dude. The turret is on the nose and you aim by moving the whole aircraft. Put on some cycled missiles and you have same helicopter from BF3. At least this time the pilot will get kills and WP. Also don't depend on useless gunners. This, but before this gets any further, I think we should actually wait for them to arrive and try them out before we start saying their crap. but speculating with current av/vehicle balance and cost of dropships this will be a fail. If some of those factors change then we'll see
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 229	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:46:00 - [33] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Oh look pilot controlled turret, really nice now that would be usefull if you wouldnt need to put the nose of the dropship into the ground to hit some 1 below you. Cause you can only shot something thats stright infront of you. Just bollocks if you ask me. Can't you already look up and down without pointing the nose with the right thumbstick? If that's not how you control that turret's pitch, I sure hope they change that soon. I mean, it's under the nose, right? It should be able to pitch up and down. I'm not saying it can't be done at all. But pointing out that tilting down for more than a second without tilting back up will start sending you sailing downward. So shooting stationary will be like this silly apple bobbing action.
Dan Centauri Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:52:00 - [34] - Quote Front gun too shoot other drop ships not ground troops perhaps? You still have gunners to shoot downwards.... if the perspective is OK from those positions.
arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. 202	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:59:00 - [35] - Quote I look forward to getting my hands on it, if it has the resources to use an AB could be a lot of fun.
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming EoN. 185	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:09:00 - [36] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: King Kobrah wrote: The dark cloud wrote: i don't know what a bombing run is ftfy Yes go ahead and explain me what a bombing run is with our useless missiles. Really curious about that. already been confirmed missiles are being fixed (do you live under a rock?) and the front mounted dropship cannon could be something different altogether.
Mithridates VI DUST 411 972	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:16:00 - [37] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: FPS view is still god awful too. I assume most people saying its fine here haven't even touched a dropship. It's the only way their comments make sense I fly derpships all the time and am looking forward to FPS fire. Ever since hearing about the assault derpship I've been flying strictly in first person and it doesn't take long before you can circle a target and keep them in your sights. That said, Blam said on IRC a while ago that the turret moved. I believe we came to the conclusion that it only rotated on one axis using the available control stick.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 229	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:22:00 - [38] - Quote Dan Centauri wrote: Front gun too shoot other drop ships not ground troops perhaps? You still have gunners to shoot downwards.... if the perspective is OK from those positions. I saw 4 seats in that dropship and none of them looked like turrets Plus the nose-shooting is totalyl in-congruent with how manned turrets operate. Both of these factors really concern me
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 229	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:24:00 - [39] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: FPS view is still god awful too. I assume most people saying its fine here haven't even touched a dropship. It's the only way their comments make sense I fly derpships all the time and am looking forward to FPS fire. Ever since hearing about the assault derpship I've been flying strictly in first person and it doesn't take long before you can circle a target and keep them in your sights. That said, Blam said on IRC a while ago that the turret moved. I believe we came to the conclusion that it only rotated on one axis using the available control stick. Perhaps. It's all premature speculation but that demonstration did little justice to conveying whatever reality it is.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3680	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:26:00 - [40] - Quote I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times.

Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 229	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:28:00 - [41] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times. How did you feel about it? First impressions.
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 108	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:28:00 - [42] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times. How are LAVs if you dont mind me asking are they still like bambi on ice?
hooc roht Black Soul Choir 29	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:48:00 - [43] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: bambi on ice? "omg omg omg i am drifting backwards what do i do?!?!?" "pitch forward" "OMG OMG OMG i am drifting forward what do i do?!?!?!" "Pitch backwards" OMG OMG OMG i am listing to the side what do i do!??!?! Compensate with the yaw OMG OMG OMG i am turning what do i do?!?!? Stop turning. I only have a couple of hours of flight time but i really do not see what the problem is. The dropships are almost a prefect "GAME" vehicle...easy to learn hard to master, and all the developers did is throw in the physics...no nerfing no buffing just somehting that can you can improve at by your own skill and practice....i wish every item/weapon/vehicle was balanced like this. Anyway if you want a spread sheet game where skill and mastery is determined by plugging in skill points into a skill tree and buffs are given out by purchase then i would like to point out CCP does make another game you might like....not that there is anything wrong with that.
Mithridates VI DUST 411 972	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:50:00 - [44] - Quote hooc roht wrote: I only have a couple of hours of flight time but i really do not see what the problem is. The problem is that the post you quoted was about LAVs.
Mark Crusader Much Crying Old Experts 10	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:53:00 - [45] - Quote Is the Assault Dropship main weapon equivalent to a large or small turret?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 249	Posted - 2013.04.25 23:51:00 - [46] - Quote Mark Crusader wrote: Is the Assault Dropship main weapon equivalent to a large or small turret? small EDIT: extra tiny only good part was that missiles actually go at an ok speed.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2890	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:50:00 - [47] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: King Kobrah wrote: The dark cloud wrote: i don't know what a bombing run is ftfy Yes go ahead and explain me what a bombing run is with our useless missiles. Really curious about that. how do u know missiles arent fixed for Uprising should save the QQ for when u actually get to use the stuff and not assume
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1276	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:07:00 - [48] - Quote I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1251	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:11:00 - [49] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. the main problem with missiles right now imo is the starnge spread and the reduced splash damage, fix those and they'll become good again.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3695	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:05:00 - [50] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times. How are LAVs if you dont mind me asking are they still like bambi on ice? Lack of better explanation they drive like an armored sports car. New throttle on trigger controls are awesome.

Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 233	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:07:00 - [51] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times. How are LAVs if you dont mind me asking are they still like bambi on ice? Lack of better explanation they drive like an armored sports car. New throttle on trigger controls are awesome. =D
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3695	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:07:00 - [52] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. If aiming was not an issue on my end I would have scored more kills. Rail gun nose was weird and hard to use as are the blaster nose gun. Also all models don't look like blasters anymore.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 233	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:11:00 - [53] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The dark cloud wrote: I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. If aiming was not an issue on my end I would have scored more kills. Rail gun nose was weird and hard to use as are the blaster nose gun. Also all models don't look like blasters anymore. Was hard to tell, did assault DS have two side turrets as well?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3695	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:16:00 - [54] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The dark cloud wrote: I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. If aiming was not an issue on my end I would have scored more kills. Rail gun nose was weird and hard to use as are the blaster nose gun. Also all models don't look like blasters anymore. Was hard to tell, did assault DS have two side turrets as well? Yes
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 233	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:50:00 - [55] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The dark cloud wrote: I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. If aiming was not an issue on my end I would have scored more kills. Rail gun nose was weird and hard to use as are the blaster nose gun. Also all models don't look like blasters anymore. Was hard to tell, did assault DS have two side turrets as well? Yes And was there any level of independent movement to the nose gun or is it totally affixed?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3695	Posted - 2013.04.26 09:57:00 - [56] - Quote Gun was y axis only so you have to get used to aiming while remaining level, I foresee great pilots pulling this off quickly gunning a squad or a tank down then flying off.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2013.04.26 10:05:00 - [57] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Gun was y axis only so you have to get used to aiming while remaining level, I foresee great pilots pulling this off quickly gunning a squad or a tank down then flying off. If I'm reading this right... Does this mean we can aim up/down with the camera axis? Even in 1st person?
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 233	Posted - 2013.04.26 10:05:00 - [58] - Quote Oh! interesting. I could ask questions all night but then when would I stop :X I imagine the rest are things you haven't seen yet anyways. Like details on their HP compared to other DS, fitting slots / pg/cpu different or same. Etc. Have fun with the events!
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 741	Posted - 2013.04.26 12:19:00 - [59] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Oh look pilot controlled turret, really nice now that would be usefull if you wouldnt need to put the nose of the dropship into the ground to hit some 1 below you. Cause you can only shot something thats stright infront of you. Just bollocks if you ask me. Oh look, it's the same as everything IRL. Spinal mounts are standard on military aircraft.
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 109	Posted - 2013.04.26 15:42:00 - [60] - Quote @ Iron wolf, Thanks for reply on LAV question that sounds awesome. @ Hooc Roht as Mith pointed out the post you half quoted was a question about LAV's.



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