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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:07:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Oh look pilot controlled turret, really nice now that would be usefull if you wouldnt need to put the nose of the dropship into the ground to hit some 1 below you. Cause you can only shot something thats stright infront of you. Just bollocks if you ask me.
My first thoughts too. This does seem completely cumbersome. As if flying and dodging AV isn't hard enough now you have to be in a flight trajectory to the ground in order to hit someone with a small missile?
Yeah. Don't know what I expected but that seems very disappointing. |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:09:00 -
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Skittles McDuckett wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Oh look pilot controlled turret, really nice now that would be usefull if you wouldnt need to put the nose of the dropship into the ground to hit some 1 below you. Cause you can only shot something thats stright infront of you. Just bollocks if you ask me. Looked like they were able to move the turret around independently.... But feel free to make snap judgements :P
I saw nothing of the sort. I did see they have to pretty much go into first person to aim, which I hope is done smoothly and not with those control-stick down buttons or something terribad.
While aiming then you lose all situational awareness of other things flying or shooting around you. hmmm |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:10:00 -
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For some reason I thought assault dropships were going to have 2 manned turrets and a third pilot controlled turret that could swivel independent of the ship. |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:16:00 -
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That's a jet. Try that maneuver with a lunar module and peashooter tied to the nose.
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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:17:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:FPS view is still god awful too.
I assume most people saying its fine here haven't even touched a dropship.
It's the only way their comments make sense |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:41:00 -
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gbghg wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:It's like the gunship from Battlefield dude. The turret is on the nose and you aim by moving the whole aircraft. Put on some cycled missiles and you have same helicopter from BF3. At least this time the pilot will get kills and WP. Also don't depend on useless gunners. This, but before this gets any further, I think we should actually wait for them to arrive and try them out before we start saying their crap.
but speculating with current av/vehicle balance and cost of dropships this will be a fail.
If some of those factors change then we'll see |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:46:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Oh look pilot controlled turret, really nice now that would be usefull if you wouldnt need to put the nose of the dropship into the ground to hit some 1 below you. Cause you can only shot something thats stright infront of you. Just bollocks if you ask me. Can't you already look up and down without pointing the nose with the right thumbstick? If that's not how you control that turret's pitch, I sure hope they change that soon. I mean, it's under the nose, right? It should be able to pitch up and down.
I'm not saying it can't be done at all. But pointing out that tilting down for more than a second without tilting back up will start sending you sailing downward. So shooting stationary will be like this silly apple bobbing action. |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 21:22:00 -
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Dan Centauri wrote:Front gun too shoot other drop ships not ground troops perhaps? You still have gunners to shoot downwards.... if the perspective is OK from those positions.
I saw 4 seats in that dropship and none of them looked like turrets
Plus the nose-shooting is totalyl in-congruent with how manned turrets operate. Both of these factors really concern me |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 21:24:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:FPS view is still god awful too.
I assume most people saying its fine here haven't even touched a dropship. It's the only way their comments make sense I fly derpships all the time and am looking forward to FPS fire. Ever since hearing about the assault derpship I've been flying strictly in first person and it doesn't take long before you can circle a target and keep them in your sights. That said, Blam said on IRC a while ago that the turret moved. I believe we came to the conclusion that it only rotated on one axis using the available control stick.
Perhaps. It's all premature speculation but that demonstration did little justice to conveying whatever reality it is. |
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Posted - 2013.04.25 21:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times. How did you feel about it? First impressions. |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I really tired to show off the nose gun but the camera wasn't looking at the right times. How are LAVs if you dont mind me asking are they still like bambi on ice? Lack of better explanation they drive like an armored sports car. New throttle on trigger controls are awesome.
=D |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The dark cloud wrote:I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. If aiming was not an issue on my end I would have scored more kills. Rail gun nose was weird and hard to use as are the blaster nose gun. Also all models don't look like blasters anymore.
Was hard to tell, did assault DS have two side turrets as well? |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 09:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The dark cloud wrote:I hope that they fix missile cause now they are just for fancy decorations. If aiming was not an issue on my end I would have scored more kills. Rail gun nose was weird and hard to use as are the blaster nose gun. Also all models don't look like blasters anymore. Was hard to tell, did assault DS have two side turrets as well? Yes
And was there any level of independent movement to the nose gun or is it totally affixed? |
Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.26 10:05:00 -
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Oh! interesting. I could ask questions all night but then when would I stop :X
I imagine the rest are things you haven't seen yet anyways. Like details on their HP compared to other DS, fitting slots / pg/cpu different or same. Etc.
Have fun with the events! |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 17:50:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:gbghg wrote:Skihids wrote:gbghg wrote:Well from the look of the current uprising gameplay the caldari assault dropship seems to have 1334 shield and 962, looks like it has 1 passive shield mod too, can't tell the type Questions: Base HP? How much PG/CPU? How many slots? Was that STD or ADV? Cost? I'm just taking numbers from what I can see on this youtube vid assault dropship bit starts at 2:25 http://t.co/JisnUYruFIReally wish I could of gone to fanfest, would have loved to try all the new stuff out. I`ll look more into it but we do know about the Assualt dropship is: its low flying. its weaker. highly menuvarable. has a turret in additon to the side turrets but the front one is for the pilot. its STD or ADV, so inless they give us sevral of them we will still not have proto DSes.
Lower flying? ...
And they didn't even raise ceiling in general?
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Posted - 2013.04.26 18:04:00 -
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Skihids wrote:It had better cost about 15k ISK fully fitted if it can't get much over 2k eHP because its going down to OHKs from a variety of AV weapons.
I believe I called in in some previous thread where assault drop-ships would become the "Lavs of the skys".
Except expensive instead of free, and 3x as dangerous. Sounds exciting... |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:14:00 -
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Basically since it probably has less HP, and less slots it will be an overpriced suicide box, not unlike the previous dropships but ..worse? |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:36:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Basically since it probably has less HP, and less slots it will be an overpriced suicide box, not unlike the previous dropships but ..worse? Probably, on the plus side they won't be as large a detriment to the team as there's less space for blueberries to lounge around in. true that. Whew! |
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Also ladwar you are correct, the guns move to camara not the DS, if you look down thats whee the gun points and thats a hell targeting moment so we will need to keep the R3 to yawing when the A DSes fire, true it word be limited to aiming since the DS wil move after a moment but thats hwy I said it will be better against vehicles. I can see doing a curved / circular strafing maneuver, but without increased CPU / PG or enhanced defenses, I don't see it being able to handle swarms or even one well placed forge gun shot, nevermind all the plasma cannons and rocket pistols we'll be seeing. You'll have to stick lower to the ground if you want to do any sustained damage, and that's a really scary place to be in a weaker version of todays dropship. I withhold all judgments until I get my hands on them, though just from what I've glimpsed, it seems that dropship pilots may still have quite a long climb ahead of them. Have they said whether or not dropship pilots will finally start earning some kind of WP in Uprising? Nope. Since it was only mentioned in their Advancing the Core segment, that means they expect to maybe add it in the next 12-18 months.
Haha...ha....ha... |
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