I like how everyone on these forums are always so POSITIVE.

Never could take an imperfect seriously and never will this in my eyes is just concentrated negativity

I like how everyone on these forums are always so POSITIVE.

Here's the thing. Compared the the developers of said CoD and BF3, CCP is a pretty small company. This means a few things.

First, CCP probably can't develop content as fast as those big companies.
Second, CCP doesn't need as many customers as those big companies.
Third, every time there is an update to Dust, Dust will be the new shiny, so people will check it out, if even for a little while. So long as actual progress is being made, this will likely be enough to maintain a modest but growing playerbase - much like Eve.

The last time DUST was "new and shiny" was back during the october update.

Second, CCP doesn't need as many customers as those big companies.
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The last time DUST was "new and shiny" was back during the october update.

lol...

The reason i state this in the title is because I believe it.


The 3-6 month release cycle will backfire. Most FPS titles know you have to update content at regular intervals. As a customer if you wait 1/2 a year for new content in a game, odds are, you will buy a "shiny new" game and forget about said old game.

If the new build is mind blowingly awesome, our boredom might be relieved for 1-2 months.

If the new build is average, alot will see this as a sign of bad development and move on to something with a future.

If the new build is horrible, we will look at each other and nod our heads knowingly and then move on.


With delays in content that take this long, you (CCP) are shooting yourselves in the head (cash register). By waiting 6 months to put out new content, you are relying on your player base to "invent" ways to make the game playable. If noone likes the new build, we have to wait another 6 months for new toys? Who wants to do that...


Ways to fix it:

1. Scrap the 3-6 month updates for big builds. Update with less content, more often.

2. I hate to mention other shooters, but take a page from BF3 or CoD. Roll out NEW (not reconfigured) new MAP packs bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).

3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again). If this Domination game mode CCP is introducing is just like the one they had out there 3 months or so ago, no thanks. How hard is it to put one objective on the map and call it a new game mode... pretty easy i guess.

4. Communicate to the player base your ideas and "supposed" time frames. Your paying customers would love to give you their opinions and pay to do so, listen well and don't blow it off. As an example: Closed beta testers letting you know this game wasn't ready for open beta.


A few more i'll add later...

I'd be fine waiting a year if the game actually had some content. I could deal with the current weapons, vehicles, and even imbalances if we had more than two things to do and six places to them. Think about it. All uprising is adding is one game mode (if you can call it that) that not everyone can play, two weapons, some revamped skills, some weapon tweeks and some new maps( I think). Now thats all well and good, but there's still next to nothing to do. You still have play the same boring and often broken game modes hours on end to get ahead.

Are you saying all console players are too stupid to have any patience at all to wait 6 measly months? Don't insult our intelligence. Not all console players are like that.

Six to eight months isn't "nothing", and you question stupidity yet follow Contraband even after the PRO scam he had.

lol cyn
what game u know releases content regularly?
bf3 released dlc every 3-4 months
cod is pretty much the same thing

Another Imperfect Crybaby Thread.

Jeez the new build isn't even out yet and your crying about it. Just quit the game so you can stop QQing.

The reason i state this in the title is because I believe it.


The 3-6 month release cycle will backfire. Most FPS titles know you have to update content at regular intervals. As a customer if you wait 1/2 a year for new content in a game, odds are, you will buy a "shiny new" game and forget about said old game.

If the new build is mind blowingly awesome, our boredom might be relieved for 1-2 months.

If the new build is average, alot will see this as a sign of bad development and move on to something with a future.

If the new build is horrible, we will look at each other and nod our heads knowingly and then move on.


With delays in content that take this long, you (CCP) are shooting yourselves in the head (cash register). By waiting 6 months to put out new content, you are relying on your player base to "invent" ways to make the game playable. If noone likes the new build, we have to wait another 6 months for new toys? Who wants to do that...


Ways to fix it:

1. Scrap the 3-6 month updates for big builds. Update with less content, more often.

2. I hate to mention other shooters, but take a page from BF3 or CoD. Roll out NEW (not reconfigured) new MAP packs bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).

3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again). If this Domination game mode CCP is introducing is just like the one they had out there 3 months or so ago, no thanks. How hard is it to put one objective on the map and call it a new game mode... pretty easy i guess.

4. Communicate to the player base your ideas and "supposed" time frames. Your paying customers would love to give you their opinions and pay to do so, listen well and don't blow it off. As an example: Closed beta testers letting you know this game wasn't ready for open beta.


A few more i'll add later...

COD
Assassins creed
Gundam Battle Operation
Uncharted
NBA2k
maxpayne
Red Dead Redemption
GTAV

lol cyn
what game u know releases content regularly?
bf3 released dlc every 3-4 months
cod is pretty much the same thing

I like how everyone on these forums are always so POSITIVE.

Are you saying all console players are too stupid to have any patience at all to wait 6 measly months? Don't insult our intelligence. Not all console players are like that.

This is a MAJOR foundation laying build that needed time to be organized and set up. And its not like they've done nothing these past few months. They've done dozens of patches, and changed/ tweaked things as far as gameplay goes and what not. An example of what happens when you try to rush things out would be the sound update they did a month or two back. That update was cool for the first two minutes of every game before my audio would start to explode and die.

Now ill admit that this scenario does not challenge the first part of your argument (the one relating to people getting bored), but I like to think that things will be alright in that respect. CCP hasn't even begun what I consider an advertisement campaign. Yes there are thing here and there but really the game is still in beta and so I question why there trying to get people into it at all right now. Will see though, will see.

I'd even say a player can play both Dust and BF3 concurrently. IMO, BF3 is pick up and play. No real time investment needed. No long term consequences. Dust makes you want to invest time, SP, isk/money. You play in part for the FPS experience but more so for the persistent consequences and changes to the Dust world.

That said, I do agree that if there's going to be an update every 6months... it better have more content. The addition of new gear is nice, but there should have been at least 4 new maps brought to the table.

The reason i state this in the title is because I believe it.


The 3-6 month release cycle will backfire. Most FPS titles know you have to update content at regular intervals. As a customer if you wait 1/2 a year for new content in a game, odds are, you will buy a "shiny new" game and forget about said old game.

If the new build is mind blowingly awesome, our boredom might be relieved for 1-2 months.

If the new build is average, alot will see this as a sign of bad development and move on to something with a future.

If the new build is horrible, we will look at each other and nod our heads knowingly and then move on.


With delays in content that take this long, you (CCP) are shooting yourselves in the head (cash register). By waiting 6 months to put out new content, you are relying on your player base to "invent" ways to make the game playable. If noone likes the new build, we have to wait another 6 months for new toys? Who wants to do that...


Ways to fix it:

1. Scrap the 3-6 month updates for big builds. Update with less content, more often.

2. I hate to mention other shooters, but take a page from BF3 or CoD. Roll out NEW (not reconfigured) new MAP packs bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).

3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again). If this Domination game mode CCP is introducing is just like the one they had out there 3 months or so ago, no thanks. How hard is it to put one objective on the map and call it a new game mode... pretty easy i guess.

4. Communicate to the player base your ideas and "supposed" time frames. Your paying customers would love to give you their opinions and pay to do so, listen well and don't blow it off. As an example: Closed beta testers letting you know this game wasn't ready for open beta.


A few more i'll add later...

OH. MY. GOD. And I thought Imperfects couldn't any worse.

Comparing CCP to BF3 and COD, lowest intelligence level EVER.

I can wait a WHOLE STINKING YEAR for a add-on pack, update, or a new game, you are just being 'Impatient'.

COD
Assassins creed
Gundam Battle Operation
Uncharted
NBA2k
maxpayne
Red Dead Redemption
GTAV

Cod releases things every couple of months. New camo's, titles, maps etc.

I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest gameplay, than get back to the abortion of a game BF3 was. It took everything BF2 did well, dumbed it down, and added flashy graphics.

Ran out of popcorn.

If you get bored with the game, no one is keeping you here...

Deep? Equip shields, assault suit, AR, and AV grenades. Enjoy. Now go play your two game modes.

Demanding? Only on your wallet if you want to keep up with the most committed supremacy goods buyers. PC is going ot be a spending spree, but not of ISK.

The funny thing about BF3 is that it wasn't the game that drove me away, it was the people. Too many idiots, trolls and badmins. I didn't really like the suppression mechanics, but it was never as bad as some people screamed about.

Heck most of my BF3 gripes had to do with EA and their awful servers than with the game itself.

Howdy Maken, that was kind of a reach to consider me insulting you and ALL FPS players. I'm suggesting a majority of people that have invested a year playing this game and not seen much progress, might look elsewhere for entertainment if said patch doesn't deliver and the playerbase has to wait another 6 months.

I was talking about the future Dust, something it will be hopefully within a year, not the beta.

BF3 was a great CoD clone. But it was not a BF2 successor.

... so you want this game to be more like COD, and neglect to realize there ARE no static maps, only procedurally generated maps?

Comparing CCP to BF3 and COD, lowest intelligence level EVER.

I can wait a WHOLE STINKING YEAR for a add-on pack, update, or a new game, you are just being 'Impatient'.

i'll just state again what i said in another post.

Debate about content updates and the rate to which they're done is irrelevant as long as CCP still needs to work on the core of the game aka physics, engine, graphics, stability etc..

Dust is obviously behind schedule and content update is mixed with technical fix and improvements that obviously lower the involvment in the content part.

Also, we're talking about a developper that has no experience on PS3 in the first place. Yes they hired people who have that experience but it's still very different than a dedicated studio who has a whole team and process use to those tool. And it's even worse with PS3 and its freakin architecture that even best devs took years to master.

But then i take a step back and try to see every part of this as a whole and it makes more sense then. Sometimes i just dont manage to do it and i rant all day.

No. There are enough games which cater to the lowest common denominator, and try to make everyone happy - and ending up being meh for everyone.

I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest gameplay, than get back to the abortion of a game BF3 was. It took everything BF2 did well, dumbed it down, and added flashy graphics.

Figures that an imp would start such a thread.

You know i used to say the same thing on MAG forums....then MAG ran out of players.....

Ohh look another scrub thats going to cry when his stuff is taken from him.

bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).
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3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again)

Apples and oranges.

The games development speed is unaffected by your levels of disappointment.

COD (activations) is a company with 4000 employers and a $2.8 revenue in 2008. Activation blizzard is 7000 people and a revenue of 4.856 billion

CCP has 70 in shanghai (dusts dev team) and a total employee count of 600 all in.

halo had 300 people developing (bungie)

CCP cant compete with that dev team size.

Also They have to go through Sony QA for all new content and builds, so its better to do bigger builds.

6 month builds is what your going to get, stop whining

I'm sure they know a lot more then you about game development.....

Get used to it.

Except how to make a fun, engaging, challenging game with tight, well built mechanics and core gameplay, how to engage and properly maintain excitement in their audience and how to effectively manage PR issues. EXCEPT all of that you are right they DO know more about game development.

Oh, and you forgot planetary conquest that will keep things dynamic all the time. Players will fight over territory all the time.

ALL. THE. TIME.

Yes, I think that people are forgetting this aspect of the game. In other shooters, if you are not in a clan battle, all that you have are meaningless pub matches. BF3 started out with how many maps? And how many game modes? Once you get bored of the pub matches after 2 months of regular play, then you start trying to entertain yourself by going after dog tags for every weapon, etc.

Planetary Conquest will ensure corp battles constantly. Faction warfare matches will actually be affecting something. You may hold a district and then lose it...and then fight to regain it and do it all over again. Battles have been bumped up to 16v16, pub matches will be bumped up to 24v24. I really can go on.....

The issue with the game is not content but gameplay satisfaction. If the gameplay is great, movements more smooth, etc then there will be no issue. Many people enjoyed MAG with only 3 game modes, 3 maps, and 2 updates. Sure, numbers were never like COD but there were reasons for that. I don't expect CCP to rehaul Dust but if they can actually improve gameplay then we would have nothing to worry about.

And to be honest...gameplay really isn't that bad. For me, personally, if they can make the movements more smooth, increase the movement speed a bit, and increase the number of players on the battlefield.....I'd be contented

Dust 514 was never supposed to be about new content or new maps.

It's a PERSISTENT and IMMERSIVE world that is linked to an already existing game. The only reason it's **** boring right now is because we don't have planetary conquest and meaningful things to do besides SP/ISK farming.

This new build is implementing that and the game is going to change dramatically - if you don't like that sort of thing just bugger off and play something else, no-one is stopping you. They never promised that this would be the most instantly gratifying thing in the world, they just promised that this would be the most immersive and long-lived FPS on the market that fills a niche role that no other game currently has.

at some point down the line ccp will finish they map gen thing, which will hopefully mean every match will be on a different map.

Come on Cyn, even I know not to use logic on the forums!

May 6 is going to be interesting. DUST 514 is an MMO, that's trying to be a FPS. But instead of trying to keep the "CORE" of what makes a FPS a FPS, Its really a MMO at heart. On may 6 when it comes out, it's going to be looked at and judge as a.. wait for it.. FPS. And then everyone on here will either be "sniker" or " they don't understand the game! It's not cod, or BF3 waaaaa!!" You know what it's not also? It's not MAG. Nor is it SOCOM. Nor a list of GREAT FPS out there. I know cause I've been there day one in a lot of em. (Valor baby)
"sniff, sniff.. it should be on pc" Yeah.. And then it'll be judged as a .. wait for it.. FPS. LOL

And did I hear some one say that they will wait a year?! Don't **** in my cup and call it tea! 4 months is patients. A year?! That's watching paint dry. come eve players you know what I mean? *drum sounds* Ok, ok couldn't help myself. sorry. lol

DUST 514 is not unique, nor trending on new ground. Not as much as EVE is. PC or console on MAY 6 It will be the FPS FANS that will judge. Not the mmo fans. Not Fans of Cod, or BF. But Those that know what a CORE FPS is from the days of yore (pc) To the crazy console fps craze of now.

On a last note, and off topic. You SEVERS wish you were VALOR! YEAH BABY! For grunts!

Really ? Cause 90% of your post is rant without any logic or constructive addition.

No. There are enough games which cater to the lowest common denominator, and try to make everyone happy - and ending up being meh for everyone.

I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest gameplay, than get back to the abortion of a game BF3 was. It took everything BF2 did well, dumbed it down, and added flashy graphics.

Figures that an imp would start such a thread.

Except how to make a fun, engaging, challenging game with tight, well built mechanics and core gameplay, how to engage and properly maintain excitement in their audience and how to effectively manage PR issues. EXCEPT all of that you are right they DO know more about game development.

Howdy Caz, they have had alot of time to get the general core of the game stable, still hasn't happened.

Having no experience in the their intended marketplace isn't an excuse for a poor product. They entered into the FPS waters on their own. As cynical as I am of this game right now, I hope I eat every f'n word I type and the game becomes amazing.

Is this thread the yearly gathering of dumb?

OP basically fails hard in not even knowing that CCP will be streaming game asset and (python) code updates between builds, and only the hardcoded stuff is really dependent on new builds.

bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).

Except how to make a fun, engaging, challenging game with tight, well built mechanics and core gameplay, how to engage and properly maintain excitement in their audience and how to effectively manage PR issues. EXCEPT all of that you are right they DO know more about game development.

Whose dumb? The man who examines and exposes the gap between what is promised and what is delivered, or the person who says the other is ignorant...

I'd say it's the one that doesn't understand how CCP will be / is pushing updates, a deal they made with Sony that is unique in the console world and doesn't bind them to the 3-6 month build release cycle.

Be more dumb.

But they have no demonstrated history of actually using the capability. Just more judging DUST by potential instead of extrapolating history. But if I call you dumb too that makes me right and you wrong by your logic, correct?

Ways to fix it:

1. Scrap the 3-6 month updates for big builds. Update with less content, more often.

2. I hate to mention other shooters, but take a page from BF3 or CoD. Roll out NEW (not reconfigured) new MAP packs bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).

3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again). If this Domination game mode CCP is introducing is just like the one they had out there 3 months or so ago, no thanks. How hard is it to put one objective on the map and call it a new game mode... pretty easy i guess.

4. Communicate to the player base your ideas and "supposed" time frames. Your paying customers would love to give you their opinions and pay to do so, listen well and don't blow it off. As an example: Closed beta testers letting you know this game wasn't ready for open beta.


A few more i'll add later...

wait a second. I thought that a long term goal was to create maps using the heightmaps from the planets in EVE. . . Wouldn't that make mappacks redundant? Also one gamemode every two months? This is a very good way to kill a game by averting gamers. Unless people distribute evenly between all modes, you will end up with fed up players, because "no one plays mode x, only dumb mode y" (even though they don't think mode y is dumb at all. But they prefer mode x so they have to hate mode y that gets all the attention). New people wouldn't know what gamemode to play, they couldn't play most of the modes because no one ever plays it, so they could probably end up thinking: "game is dead, only 2 modes are played evar" . imho.

The only content idd like to actually see in Dust 514 is a solid 60+ FPS, then ill be good to entertain myself for a the next year, this sub 20 FPS screws with my aim.

That goal was scrapped. Maybe one day it shall be revived. So no, there is no "secret catalog" of maps we merely haven't seen yet.

Can't really think of many games in general that fit this criteria let alone any game that has a multi-player function to it. BF, COD and Homefront still suffered from irritating movement and mechanics issues. So here's the funny thing when it comes to people bit**ing about games:

Sit down and think of a "game" to make. Write down said rules and objectives from there on. Then try to make it appealing to people. Sure the game sounds good in your head but its like the 99% of the population that thinks they can sing, leave it to the shower and let it stay there because any idea you come up with will suck and just won't work.

Square-Enix can make a fun game with Tomb-Raider but god knows what went on with FF14. Sim City...not going to even travel that route. We can complain about how much a company sucks because they know absolute squat about making a game that doesn't do anything and keeps their audience unengaged and uninformed but ironically enough none of us probably has any experience in making a game except the few that care to tout around their GM status in Dungeon and Dragons.

So I'm not here to white~knight but its both comical and equally depressing that we all feel more than special enough to complain about how a game is made when we know little to nothing about how to either make a game let alone program one and without the slightest clue of finding a way to appeal to 99.9% of the wants of players who post how much this game sucks. Then again you could just NOT play at all and save your energy from whining and focus it toward playing with something that makes you happy and hey if it involves some kleenex and tissue, so be it! I still preferred MAG over Dust and MAG still had tons of issues that never got resolved either...

Don't know where you got that information because that's never been officially stated. It was last stated as a goal back in the 'Seeding the Universe' video, which is admittedly pretty old. But it has never been officially scrapped. It will likely not happen for a long long time if it does but they have given some details about how a huge amount of procedural variation will make the game more expansive.

As for complaints of lack of content - no one here has said that they played BF/COD/MW/MAG or any of the other mentioned games while they were in actual development beta, so you have no idea how quickly or often they released new content before they went live. This is going to be a bigger game than any of those but that means it's going to take a lot of time and effort to get it to that point.

There is a lot to do and a lot to test - at the moment (during the testing phase) everything has to be tested at the correct pace for the appropriate amount of time. Once release hits (proper full release with all the planned release features) CCP may well have a plan in place to provide more content quicker; afterall they can already stream smaller updates directly without needing to do big patches that have to go through Sony QA.

I fully agree there is a lot still broken and boring about this game and the relief will not be hugely lasting after we get Uprising because PC is still essentially skirmish and only corp officers will be involved in the strategy elements and new weapons/vehicles will only add so much to the game. However, the promise that this game has is limitless.

Also, one massive point to remember is that this is F2P - that means that people who do get bored or fed up after a couple of months have no barrier to re-entry when some new content does come. You don't have to spend -ú40 or $60 or whatever to try out the new stuff in a sequel to see if you'll like it - you can just download and pop back anytime you fancy. This you can not do when COD releases a new game or even DLC that you have to pay for!

Actually, it was. They was an interview not to long ago that included a "behind the scenes" look at how the "random" maps were made. They are all hand made, and are happy tho release one new one every 3-6 months. That is DUST moving forward. No procedural generation at all. There will be "sockets" that swap a few buildings, but the terrain itself will remain static. It's sad because that's opposite what it should be.

The reason i state this in the title is because I believe it.


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A few more i'll add later...

Balancing procedural maps is pretty much impossible. That will mean that good portion (majority?) of procedurally generated maps will be won by the side who gets better tactical advantage due to roll of the random generator. If you thought the QQ against SVER in MAG was bad, just imagine it when dust bunnies get a map where they spawn on an open field while enemy spawns in caves with turrets. The screenshots and youtube videos of the one-sided maps would likely ruin the game's reputation irredeemably.

Then again, better players will get better at exploiting these tactical advantages, and mitigate disadvantages. And in the big picture, it will even out in the long term as everyone is as likely to get an advantage 50% of the time, disadvantage 50% of the time. But gamers' stupidity (and whining) knows no bounds, so the screenies mentioned earlier would kill the game no matter what the reality is.

I would at least like to see procedural map mode, as that's something that hasn't been done before in FPSs to my knowledge.

Never could take an imperfect seriously and never will this in my eyes is just concentrated negativity

So if he was in another corp that makes his opinion more valid

Can I has your account I grind for yous

I'll think about it, it could be possible that I might not bother getting a new ps3 actually. But if I give it to you you can use nothing but a sniper no matter the range.

I will carry on the dream Zan o7

I'll think about it, it could be possible that I might not bother getting a new ps3 actually. But if I give it to you you can use nothing but a sniper no matter the range.

May your point and click fire true o7

Dust 514 was never supposed to be about new content or new maps.

It's a PERSISTENT and IMMERSIVE world that is linked to an already existing game. The only reason it's **** boring right now is because we don't have planetary conquest and meaningful things to do besides SP/ISK farming.

This new build is implementing that and the game is going to change dramatically - if you don't like that sort of thing just bugger off and play something else, no-one is stopping you. They never promised that this would be the most instantly gratifying thing in the world, they just promised that this would be the most immersive and long-lived FPS on the market that fills a niche role that no other game currently has.

This game will probably just turn into EVE.

I started playing EVE when it first came out, got really bored because the game takes forver to do stuff. quit

Started playing a year later because of shiny new updates, got bored because it takes forever to do stuff, quit

Picked it up two years later, because space ships really are freaking cool and I like scifi stuff and I think I had just finished watching Battlestar Galactica. Got bored because I didn't have time to make $$ in game so I always Plexed and when you Plex in the game and lose what you spent a plex on it makes you realize you just lost real cash, quit.

Picked it back up a year later, because space ships are cool and the game isn't some carebear MMO. Got bored because I couldn't find a good active corp that wasn't some drama BS, quit

etc etc etc.


As you can see, I always run away, and yet I always come back. Its a love/hate thing. I've heard alot of people do the same thing I do, so lets try to assume this is normal. if this game can draw 500k fans that all keep leaving and coming back at random times. Then you would probably be looking at an active population of like 40k with like 10k people on at any given time.

Since its free to play you can probably inflate those numbers a bit.

Actually, it was. They was an interview not to long ago that included a "behind the scenes" look at how the "random" maps were made. They are all hand made, and are happy tho release one new one every 3-6 months. That is DUST moving forward. No procedural generation at all. There will be "sockets" that swap a few buildings, but the terrain itself will remain static. It's sad because that's opposite what it should be.

I like that the actual terrain will stay the same and the buildings change. Players should be able to move structures around but the roads, mountains and valleys should stay the same.

Never could take an imperfect seriously and never will this in my eyes is just concentrated negativity

This post is rubbish. CCP has been putting out updates on a 6 month cycle for years. Considering EVE is going strong for 10 years now, I see no problemo.

Well, in their defense, they are also adding PC, and with it the ability to build planetary structures. I think, though I may be wrong, rudimentary player trading is coming as well.

I also think it would be nice to get more content, but will I continue to play based on what's announced? yeah.

Keep in mind also, it takes a lot longer, typically, to build the foundations of whole new mechanics (PC, trading, PVE) then it does to iterate on them.

I prefer CCP way of doing things atm, not rushed out and trying to fix the core of the game while adding a few things here and ther, its not release still beta and they are still tinkering things

Yes, I think that people are forgetting this aspect of the game. In other shooters, if you are not in a clan battle, all that you have are meaningless pub matches. BF3 started out with how many maps? And how many game modes? Once you get bored of the pub matches after 2 months of regular play, then you start trying to entertain yourself by going after dog tags for every weapon, etc.

Planetary Conquest will ensure corp battles constantly. Faction warfare matches will actually be affecting something. You may hold a district and then lose it...and then fight to regain it and do it all over again. Battles have been bumped up to 16v16, pub matches will be bumped up to 24v24. I really can go on.....

The issue with the game is not content but gameplay satisfaction. If the gameplay is great, movements more smooth, etc then there will be no issue. Many people enjoyed MAG with only 3 game modes, 3 maps, and 2 updates. Sure, numbers were never like COD but there were reasons for that. I don't expect CCP to rehaul Dust but if they can actually improve gameplay then we would have nothing to worry about.

And to be honest...gameplay really isn't that bad. For me, personally, if they can make the movements more smooth, increase the movement speed a bit, and increase the number of players on the battlefield.....I'd be contented