COD
Assassins creed
Gundam Battle Operation
Uncharted
NBA2k
maxpayne
Red Dead Redemption
GTAV

lol cyn
what game u know releases content regularly?
bf3 released dlc every 3-4 months
cod is pretty much the same thing

I like how everyone on these forums are always so POSITIVE.

Are you saying all console players are too stupid to have any patience at all to wait 6 measly months? Don't insult our intelligence. Not all console players are like that.

This is a MAJOR foundation laying build that needed time to be organized and set up. And its not like they've done nothing these past few months. They've done dozens of patches, and changed/ tweaked things as far as gameplay goes and what not. An example of what happens when you try to rush things out would be the sound update they did a month or two back. That update was cool for the first two minutes of every game before my audio would start to explode and die.

Now ill admit that this scenario does not challenge the first part of your argument (the one relating to people getting bored), but I like to think that things will be alright in that respect. CCP hasn't even begun what I consider an advertisement campaign. Yes there are thing here and there but really the game is still in beta and so I question why there trying to get people into it at all right now. Will see though, will see.

I'd even say a player can play both Dust and BF3 concurrently. IMO, BF3 is pick up and play. No real time investment needed. No long term consequences. Dust makes you want to invest time, SP, isk/money. You play in part for the FPS experience but more so for the persistent consequences and changes to the Dust world.

That said, I do agree that if there's going to be an update every 6months... it better have more content. The addition of new gear is nice, but there should have been at least 4 new maps brought to the table.

The reason i state this in the title is because I believe it.


The 3-6 month release cycle will backfire. Most FPS titles know you have to update content at regular intervals. As a customer if you wait 1/2 a year for new content in a game, odds are, you will buy a "shiny new" game and forget about said old game.

If the new build is mind blowingly awesome, our boredom might be relieved for 1-2 months.

If the new build is average, alot will see this as a sign of bad development and move on to something with a future.

If the new build is horrible, we will look at each other and nod our heads knowingly and then move on.


With delays in content that take this long, you (CCP) are shooting yourselves in the head (cash register). By waiting 6 months to put out new content, you are relying on your player base to "invent" ways to make the game playable. If noone likes the new build, we have to wait another 6 months for new toys? Who wants to do that...


Ways to fix it:

1. Scrap the 3-6 month updates for big builds. Update with less content, more often.

2. I hate to mention other shooters, but take a page from BF3 or CoD. Roll out NEW (not reconfigured) new MAP packs bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).

3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again). If this Domination game mode CCP is introducing is just like the one they had out there 3 months or so ago, no thanks. How hard is it to put one objective on the map and call it a new game mode... pretty easy i guess.

4. Communicate to the player base your ideas and "supposed" time frames. Your paying customers would love to give you their opinions and pay to do so, listen well and don't blow it off. As an example: Closed beta testers letting you know this game wasn't ready for open beta.


A few more i'll add later...

OH. MY. GOD. And I thought Imperfects couldn't any worse.

Comparing CCP to BF3 and COD, lowest intelligence level EVER.

I can wait a WHOLE STINKING YEAR for a add-on pack, update, or a new game, you are just being 'Impatient'.

COD
Assassins creed
Gundam Battle Operation
Uncharted
NBA2k
maxpayne
Red Dead Redemption
GTAV

Cod releases things every couple of months. New camo's, titles, maps etc.

I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest gameplay, than get back to the abortion of a game BF3 was. It took everything BF2 did well, dumbed it down, and added flashy graphics.

Ran out of popcorn.

If you get bored with the game, no one is keeping you here...

Deep? Equip shields, assault suit, AR, and AV grenades. Enjoy. Now go play your two game modes.

Demanding? Only on your wallet if you want to keep up with the most committed supremacy goods buyers. PC is going ot be a spending spree, but not of ISK.

The funny thing about BF3 is that it wasn't the game that drove me away, it was the people. Too many idiots, trolls and badmins. I didn't really like the suppression mechanics, but it was never as bad as some people screamed about.

Heck most of my BF3 gripes had to do with EA and their awful servers than with the game itself.

Howdy Maken, that was kind of a reach to consider me insulting you and ALL FPS players. I'm suggesting a majority of people that have invested a year playing this game and not seen much progress, might look elsewhere for entertainment if said patch doesn't deliver and the playerbase has to wait another 6 months.

I was talking about the future Dust, something it will be hopefully within a year, not the beta.

BF3 was a great CoD clone. But it was not a BF2 successor.

... so you want this game to be more like COD, and neglect to realize there ARE no static maps, only procedurally generated maps?

Comparing CCP to BF3 and COD, lowest intelligence level EVER.

I can wait a WHOLE STINKING YEAR for a add-on pack, update, or a new game, you are just being 'Impatient'.

i'll just state again what i said in another post.

Debate about content updates and the rate to which they're done is irrelevant as long as CCP still needs to work on the core of the game aka physics, engine, graphics, stability etc..

Dust is obviously behind schedule and content update is mixed with technical fix and improvements that obviously lower the involvment in the content part.

Also, we're talking about a developper that has no experience on PS3 in the first place. Yes they hired people who have that experience but it's still very different than a dedicated studio who has a whole team and process use to those tool. And it's even worse with PS3 and its freakin architecture that even best devs took years to master.

But then i take a step back and try to see every part of this as a whole and it makes more sense then. Sometimes i just dont manage to do it and i rant all day.

No. There are enough games which cater to the lowest common denominator, and try to make everyone happy - and ending up being meh for everyone.

I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest gameplay, than get back to the abortion of a game BF3 was. It took everything BF2 did well, dumbed it down, and added flashy graphics.

Figures that an imp would start such a thread.

You know i used to say the same thing on MAG forums....then MAG ran out of players.....

Ohh look another scrub thats going to cry when his stuff is taken from him.

bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).
...
3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again)

Apples and oranges.

The games development speed is unaffected by your levels of disappointment.

COD (activations) is a company with 4000 employers and a $2.8 revenue in 2008. Activation blizzard is 7000 people and a revenue of 4.856 billion

CCP has 70 in shanghai (dusts dev team) and a total employee count of 600 all in.

halo had 300 people developing (bungie)

CCP cant compete with that dev team size.

Also They have to go through Sony QA for all new content and builds, so its better to do bigger builds.

6 month builds is what your going to get, stop whining

I'm sure they know a lot more then you about game development.....

Get used to it.

Except how to make a fun, engaging, challenging game with tight, well built mechanics and core gameplay, how to engage and properly maintain excitement in their audience and how to effectively manage PR issues. EXCEPT all of that you are right they DO know more about game development.

Oh, and you forgot planetary conquest that will keep things dynamic all the time. Players will fight over territory all the time.

ALL. THE. TIME.