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Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:27:00 -
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The reason i state this in the title is because I believe it.
The 3-6 month release cycle will backfire. Most FPS titles know you have to update content at regular intervals. As a customer if you wait 1/2 a year for new content in a game, odds are, you will buy a "shiny new" game and forget about said old game.
If the new build is mind blowingly awesome, our boredom might be relieved for 1-2 months.
If the new build is average, alot will see this as a sign of bad development and move on to something with a future.
If the new build is horrible, we will look at each other and nod our heads knowingly and then move on.
With delays in content that take this long, you (CCP) are shooting yourselves in the head (cash register). If the new build is bad, why would anyone waste more time on this?
Ways to fix it:
1. Scrap the 3-6 month updates for big builds. Update with less content, more often.
2. I hate to mention other shooters, but take a page from BF3 or CoD. Roll out NEW (not reconfigured) new MAP packs bi-monthly (every 2 months for vocabulary impaired).
3. Roll out 1 new game mode bi-monthly (theres that word again). If this Domination game mode CCP is introducing is just like the one they had out there 3 months or so ago, no thanks. How hard is it to put one objective on the map and call it a new game mode... pretty easy i guess.
4. Communicate to the player base your ideas and "supposed" time frames. Your paying customers would love to give you their opinions and pay to do so, listen well and don't blow it off. As an example: Closed beta testers letting you know this game wasn't ready for open beta.
A few more i'll add later... |
Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:15:00 -
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Covert Clay wrote:I like how everyone on these forums are always so POSITIVE.
Howdy Covert, I have been positive. Please look waaaay back in my post history if you have the time, I was a banner waving disciple of CCP's "futuristic" shooter... and part of me still is i guess, otherwise why put in the effort to cry so much.
Maken Tosch wrote:Are you saying all console players are too stupid to have any patience at all to wait 6 measly months? Don't insult our intelligence. Not all console players are like that.
Howdy Maken, that was kind of a reach to consider me insulting you and ALL FPS players. I'm suggesting a majority of people that have invested a year playing this game and not seen much progress, might look elsewhere for entertainment if said patch doesn't deliver and the playerbase has to wait another 6 months.
Marston VC wrote:This is a MAJOR foundation laying build that needed time to be organized and set up. And its not like they've done nothing these past few months. They've done dozens of patches, and changed/ tweaked things as far as gameplay goes and what not. An example of what happens when you try to rush things out would be the sound update they did a month or two back. That update was cool for the first two minutes of every game before my audio would start to explode and die.
Now ill admit that this scenario does not challenge the first part of your argument (the one relating to people getting bored), but I like to think that things will be alright in that respect. CCP hasn't even begun what I consider an advertisement campaign. Yes there are thing here and there but really the game is still in beta and so I question why there trying to get people into it at all right now. Will see though, will see.
Howdy Marston, the small things they have done these past few months haven't had a positive affect on the game imo. I never used to have this bad of connection (lag) issues in previous builds, altho there was 1 worse.
Remember how cool running Craterlake was a year ago? How much faster the gameplay was, what a bad heavy I was... good times. Where is that game?
Over the past year they have systematically dumbed the gameplay down. You still getting "caught" on flat terrain and having to jump to move forward? Nah, me neither. If this MAJOR foundation build just turns out to be average (PC) will this be a success? What would you like to see happen, what is your dream scenario Marston? :)
mikegunnz wrote:I'd even say a player can play both Dust and BF3 concurrently. IMO, BF3 is pick up and play. No real time investment needed. No long term consequences. Dust makes you want to invest time, SP, isk/money. You play in part for the FPS experience but more so for the persistent consequences and changes to the Dust world.
That said, I do agree that if there's going to be an update every 6months... it better have more content. The addition of new gear is nice, but there should have been at least 4 new maps brought to the table.
Howdy Mike, Totally agree with you about playing different games. Currently playing a few different games to alleviate the boredom of DUST. One hard thing to reconcile is this game is F2P, so "putting it down" is far fetched. Small content additions at regular intervals would be a great addition to this game. |
Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.04.19 01:08:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: ... so you want this game to be more like COD, and neglect to realize there ARE no static maps, only procedurally generated maps?
Howdy Zyrus, Not even close to what I typed, please re-read.
Nexus Tau wrote:Comparing CCP to BF3 and COD, lowest intelligence level EVER.
I can wait a WHOLE STINKING YEAR for a add-on pack, update, or a new game, you are just being 'Impatient'.
Howdy Nexus, Not even close to what I typed, speaking of intelligence. I'll slow it down for you... I didn't say anything comparing the GAMEPLAY of these 3, I stated they should look how other games are doing it with bi-monthly content releases.
Laurent Cazaderon wrote:i'll just state again what i said in another post. Debate about content updates and the rate to which they're done is irrelevant as long as CCP still needs to work on the core of the game aka physics, engine, graphics, stability etc.. Dust is obviously behind schedule and content update is mixed with technical fix and improvements that obviously lower the involvment in the content part. Also, we're talking about a developper that has no experience on PS3 in the first place. Yes they hired people who have that experience but it's still very different than a dedicated studio who has a whole team and process use to those tool. And it's even worse with PS3 and its freakin architecture that even best devs took years to master. But then i take a step back and try to see every part of this as a whole and it makes more sense then. Sometimes i just dont manage to do it and i rant all day.
Howdy Caz, they have had alot of time to get the general core of the game stable, still hasn't happened.
Having no experience in the their intended marketplace isn't an excuse for a poor product. They entered into the FPS waters on their own. As cynical as I am of this game right now, I hope I eat every f'n word I type and the game becomes amazing.
Arramakaian Eka wrote:No. There are enough games which cater to the lowest common denominator, and try to make everyone happy - and ending up being meh for everyone.
I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest gameplay, than get back to the abortion of a game BF3 was. It took everything BF2 did well, dumbed it down, and added flashy graphics.
Figures that an imp would start such a thread.
I agree, with your first sentence whole heartedly. If you look back on some of the changes that were made, it reflects your statement well.
I'd rather play a deep, demanding planetary conquest game mode too, hopefully our dreams come true.
Well... yeah.
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Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:48:00 -
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Sooo... Everyone feeling good about the update? Don't have new weps, maps or PC yet, but update has set us on the right path, correct?
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Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:51:00 -
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Now we have lower SP gain to go with higher tier SP sinks, no bueno.
Sharpshooting needed a nerf, but not this bad.
Anyone have any positive things to say yet? |
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