The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, if you pay him what he wants.

Or the battle gets drawn out and is no longer profitable or worthwhile and you remember about PRO.

You don't play monopoly with no money and ask for boardwalk at the beginning. Some alliance will own this planet but it wont be Dustbojouni

Hello all, as a primer, read the first post in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68333

Bojo's School of the Trades (BSOTT) and Dust University (D-UNI) are openly seeking to plant our schools on the Planet Hadeleolfarber III should Planetary Conquest open up in Molden Heath. Our reasons behind this planet is that it is both a dead end planet, it is not an access point to anywhere in particular other than itself, and it is low in value. What we seek on this planet is a way to liberate our wallets from donations and prevention of Taxing (we will not!) and most importantly, a way to prepare the mercs of tomorrow, by throwing them into the real conditions, but in a controlled environment. They will be exposed to Friendly Fire which I'm sure every employer will agree, makes our students more appealing candidates.

What I'm asking for is a hand, a gesture of kindness. Who stands for what we stand for? Who will protect our schools from invaders? Who supports our actions for the taking of this planet? I ask these questions because I've been asked to partake BSOTT in another alliance, who says that we need them to defend our interests. I said to them that the community has our back, they will aid in our time of need. So to prove them wrong, sign here.

Dead-end system, not accessible, so not worth anything... LOL

Such a dead-end system is pretty much the holy grail of a medium-sized corp or coalition, since it protects them against the large blocks.

Really, what you'd want do is declare (not request for non invasion pacts) that BSOTT and D-UNI will take two districts on the planet as core districts. If those districts are captured you'll spend every day attacking to regain them no matter how much ISK it costs.

Then leave the rest of the districts as a free-for-all. If some outside corp gets in then there's plenty of opportunities for students to learning politics, if it's just BSOTT and D-UNI then fight it out. Make some arrangement that if an outside corp takes over a district the universities won't kick them out of their last district unless there's less than three attackable districts left. (Less than three multi-district outsider and/or opposite univ corp has more than their core of districts)

In any case the point is that you won't be able to keep outsiders from wanting your planet, but at least you can try to fill it up with people who will respect the core districts. E.g. if there's 2-3 outsiders on the planet they're less likely to go for the core districts since they know you'll spend as much ISK as needed to take them back, while they're getting attacked from all sides.

Thank you kind sir, i have been feverishly trying to broker a piece of prime real estate for Sontie and his listing he requested here
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=643592#post643592

This scouting report you have provided is perfectly suited to those needs and will quickly make my recommendations to him for the acquistions fase. This indeed will be a glorious commission and i thank you for your diligent scouting.

I see the logic in that but see the logic in this: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/an-update-dev-blog-for-planetary-conquest/

The attrition table states that clone movement on the same planet regardless of laboratory is 100% Survival rate. If we let other corporations on the planet, wouldn't that be an enticement to conquer it, as they lose no money in the process of even starting the campaign? Even a 5% attrition rate is good for us because in the case of invaders, looking to hunt on easy prey rather than grow cahones to play with the big boys, it would give us a homefield advantage. Even though 5% isn't much of attrition rate, it's the only attrition rate that can be achieved in one solar system.

I see the logic in that but see the logic in this: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/an-update-dev-blog-for-planetary-conquest/

The attrition table states that clone movement on the same planet regardless of laboratory is 100% Survival rate. If we let other corporations on the planet, wouldn't that be an enticement to conquer it, as they lose no money in the process of even starting the campaign? Even a 5% attrition rate is good for us because in the case of invaders, looking to hunt on easy prey rather than grow cahones to play with the big boys, it would give us a homefield advantage. Even though 5% isn't much of attrition rate, it's the only attrition rate that can be achieved in one solar system.

Sorry you want to talk about cohones and you want to ask for volunteers to protect the schools dafauq?

Mercs don't work for free, im surprised even the bunnies would offer that , they must not of cleared it with EVE alliance cause noir doesnt work on credit or for free?

And if you join an alliance can you really keep considering yourself neutral?


Someday you can have a planet maybe? but i wouldnt be so quick to think its going to happen on the launch of PC sorry too many people not enough land.

School: Filled with new players, learning to play. Corp: Out for money and fights. I have a school, we're not full of bloodlust mercenaries out to make money. We don't fight with you guys because we focus on training. We are admitting that we have weaker defenses than other corps, we're not built around fighting. So it's a pretty low brow move to take candy from a baby in layman's terms.

Merc's don't work for free? Why the hell have people been playing corp battles then? *Say it in Buk Lau voice*

I never considered BSOTT Neutral, that's DUNI's thing. And BSOTT is not joining any alliances.

Too many people not enough land? You'll tell me that when all of New Eden is open to mercs, and we like our food when it's hot.

EDIT: That came off as mean....what I want to get at is that Training Corps are inferior to other Corps in terms of ability to defend, and we're aware of that so we're just asking the big folk to lend a helping hand when/if space invaders arrive to take from us because we are easier prey. Those invaders would be taking the low road in my opinion that does not matter.

School: Filled with new players, learning to play. Corp: Out for money and fights. I have a school, we're not full of bloodlust mercenaries out to make money. We don't fight with you guys because we focus on training. We are admitting that we have weaker defenses than other corps, we're not built around fighting. So it's a pretty low brow move to take candy from a baby in layman's terms.

Merc's don't work for free? Why the hell have people been playing corp battles then? *Say it in Buk Lau voice*

I never considered BSOTT Neutral, that's DUNI's thing. And BSOTT is not joining any alliances.

Too many people not enough land? You'll tell me that when all of New Eden is open to mercs, and we like our food when it's hot.

EDIT: That came off as mean....what I want to get at is that Training Corps are inferior to other Corps in terms of ability to defend, and we're aware of that so we're just asking the big folk to lend a helping hand when/if space invaders arrive to take from us because we are easier prey. Those invaders would be taking the low road in my opinion that does not matter.

For the recors i like BSOTT, DUNI i can live without Doesn't change can't call dibs on a planet and not expect someone to go now wait just a minute there you want well we want it now just so you can't have it?

Pettty yes
Cruel yes

Exactly what you'd expect of big bad mean mercs... damn tootin.

If we had a training corp with nothing but new members there wouldn't be much training going on, would there? Schools of any kind typically have faculty.

For the recors i like BSOTT, DUNI i can live without Doesn't change can't call dibs on a planet and not expect someone to go now wait just a minute there you want well we want it now just so you can't have it?

Pettty yes
Cruel yes

Exactly what you'd expect of big bad mean mercs... damn tootin.

What a name...

I would like to point out that I feel like Academia III still needs a third party on world.

12 districts:

4 Battle Zones (1 per major TZ group)
3 DU Campus (their number, not mine)
2 BSOTT Campus (last number I heard discussed)
3 Other

This "third party" could be another college or it could be three different "booster" corps that provide adjunct faculty, both in the form of teaching part-time and attacking the BZs during scheduled battles.

Such booster corps would of course be signatories to the Treaty of Academia.

Those corps, purely by virtue of their contact with students (not any special quid-pro-quo) would be most likely to recruit the best and brightest students.

Maybe we should all stop talking about it and just wait for the opportunity to settle it and remind you how much worse your bark is compared to your bite.

Yeah, when you two solidified this planet as the one, I was pretty intimidated by the district number. So preferably, another college of sorts would take those districts.

GATT
IMPSwarm

Those are candidates...I just got the creepiest shiver running down my spine....

I'm just gonna leave my two cents right here.

You're basically asking for 12 districts of prime real estate and then claiming that no one should attack you.

Why not take Kadlina instead. It's only got seven districts so you're not asking that much, no stations and only two tech moons. On top of that it's still deadend.

Your asking for the most defendable (and therefore most valuable) moon in Molden Heath and then claiming people shouldn't attack you.

Bottom Line: You can't have it both ways. Either pick a small, unvaluable planet and then create a pact to punish any corp dumb enough to try to take it or pick on that's easily defended and defend that. If you're not going to play the game get to the sidelines.

I'm just gonna leave my two cents right here.

You're basically asking for 12 districts of prime real estate and then claiming that no one should attack you.

Why not take Kadlina instead. It's only got seven districts so you're not asking that much, no stations and only two tech moons. On top of that it's still deadend.

Your asking for the most defendable (and therefore most valuable) moon in Molden Heath and then claiming people shouldn't attack you.

Bottom Line: You can't have it both ways. Either pick a small, unvaluable planet and then create a pact to punish any corp dumb enough to try to take it or pick on that's easily defended and defend that. If you're not going to play the game get to the sidelines.

Kadlina was considered. Unfortunately, it is part of the Tartatven-Elfrard megapocket. This megapocket will likely become the province of one or two of the kaiju corps within a month or so of Uprising.

From a district number standpoint, it is also too small to support the four combat TZs that DU is looking to host. Last I heard, the leadership of DU felt that they would need three districts to supply the clones to supply those four battles per day.

That is seven districts right there.

Wait... Kadlina has TECH MOONS...?!

You know if you really want it that badly im sure there those that would gladly secure it for you. For the right price of course

The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, you pay him what he wants.

Hello all, as a primer, read the first post in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68333

Bojo's School of the Trades (BSOTT) and Dust University (D-UNI) are openly seeking to plant our schools on the Planet Hadeleolfarber III should Planetary Conquest open up in Molden Heath. Our reasons behind this planet is that it is both a dead end planet, it is not an access point to anywhere in particular other than itself, and it is low in value. What we seek on this planet is a way to liberate our wallets from donations and prevention of Taxing (we will not!) and most importantly, a way to prepare the mercs of tomorrow, by throwing them into the real conditions, but in a controlled environment. They will be exposed to Friendly Fire which I'm sure every employer will agree, makes our students more appealing candidates.

What I'm asking for is a hand, a gesture of kindness. Who stands for what we stand for? Who will protect our schools from invaders? Who supports our actions for the taking of this planet? I ask these questions because I've been asked to partake BSOTT in another alliance, who says that we need them to defend our interests. I said to them that the community has our back, they will aid in our time of need. So to prove them wrong, sign here.

Signed,

Bojo's School of the Trades
Dust University
L.O.T.I.S
Red Rock Outriders
J3Eleven (maybe on behalf of PFBHz)

You have to be joking. Are you guys trying to overextend yourselves, or what? Last time I checked, you aren't even capable of getting mentioned as a corp people are afraid to see in battle (mentioning yourselves in every other thread doesn't count)

You have to be joking. Are you guys trying to overextend yourselves, or what? Last time I checked, you aren't even capable of getting mentioned as a corp people are afraid to see in battle (mentioning yourselves in every other thread doesn't count)

will dust university join you?

Dust University is allied with BSOTT on the planet arrangement. Reference Post # 10

J3Eleven (maybe on behalf of PFBHz)

split 12 districts between two corps

quick question pfbhz ive never heard of noir. mercenary group what corps r part of it

If indeed molden heath is the location of the first opening, then Hedaleolfarber is actually an ideal planet for a corporation. not only does it have plenty of districts, but it also is isolated from attack. JL3Eleven does NOT speak on behalf of PFBHz. We aren't sure where we're going to settle, if we settle at all, but I personally think you're in for a tough time if you think you're going to just be able to split 12 districts between two corps with absolutely no competition. in fact, by advertising, you are just opening yourselves up to invasion early on, since everyone knows the two corps are filled with newer guys. (Thats the point).

I'm just going to tell it to you how it is. You should abandon this idea of hoping people will come to your aid. Wait a few months after Uprising, see how things turn out, then find a planet that is least contested. Or wait until they release more regions, leaving you more space to deal with. because at first, with such a limited amount of Districts, you're going to be hard pressed to find any districts that aren't almost constantly being fought over.

More power to you though. But I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I don't support this method of "claiming a planet". This is not a game for charitable people. What you are doing with these learning corps is admirable, but you say you want to "eliminate taxes". Well, thats what a lot of other corps probably hope to do with taking districts. how are they less important than you?

Do you even lift?

we need land to

A) Generate Money so we don't go broke and say "Screw training people" then leave a void of training corps and have new people get frustrated and cease to exist

B) To train people with Friendly Fire. I'm sure that when our graduates go on to your corps, you'd want someone who doesn't destroy friendly HAVs....

as pfbhz have stated ur base is a prime location and if u truly are a training corp why do u need land? this is sucspicous...

EvE Who

Dotlan

^Good sites to know.

EvE Who

Dotlan

^Good sites to know.

If indeed molden heath is the location of the first opening, then Hedaleolfarber is actually an ideal planet for a corporation.

More power to you though. But I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I don't support this method of "claiming a planet". This is not a game for charitable people. What you are doing with these learning corps is admirable, but you say you want to "eliminate taxes". Well, thats what a lot of other corps probably hope to do with taking districts. how are they less important than you?

The planet in question is only a prime base for a corp with no ambitions. It is three jumps from the nearest other PC planets, meaning that you have to dedicate a lot of SI to Science Labs, lose a lot of clones to attrition, or buy lots of Gen packs to attack anywhere else.

The explanation for needing land is long and complicated, but here are the highlights:

- Friendly Fire (Teaching in a FF environment)
- PC Interfaces (Learning them to teach them)
- Clone supply to enable FF practice battles
- Income (small) to offset ISK losses from training supplies in the absence of other funding methods (no trading)

It is also worth noting that we are only having discussions about specific planets because BSOTT took the initiative to conduct serious research into the starting region. There is still no official CCP announcement (so it could change), but the data currently available was provided to the entire community at the same time as part of our educational outreach.

The planet in question is only a prime base for a corp with no ambitions. It is three jumps from the nearest other PC planets, meaning that you have to dedicate a lot of SI to Science Labs, lose a lot of clones to attrition, or buy lots of Gen packs to attack anywhere else.

The explanation for needing land is long and complicated, but here are the highlights:

- Friendly Fire (Teaching in a FF environment)
- PC Interfaces (Learning them to teach them)
- Clone supply to enable FF practice battles
- Income (small) to offset ISK losses from training supplies in the absence of other funding methods (no trading)

It is also worth noting that we are only having discussions about specific planets because BSOTT took the initiative to conduct serious research into the starting region. There is still no official CCP announcement (so it could change), but the data currently available was provided to the entire community at the same time as part of our educational outreach.

Hedaleolfarber is actually not ideal, Altbrard is, which has 14 districts and the same set up. Hedaleolfarber's dead end set up is seen as Defensive gold, but if everybody set up PC around the defense, more than half the planets would go untouched. Some planets offer great offensive position, being on the routes to various locations, making it a good home base for outward expansion. We are choosing a defensive secluded planet because that prevents invasion and also frees up the more offensive planets to the corporations who wish to attack things.

Look we gotta set up shop somewhere and we're merely letting you guys know that this is where. It's of least value and is not the only dead end planet out there. Altbrard is the same but more!

So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?

Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.

So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?

Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.

Who says we don't have to pay ISK? Who says we won't have to fight? Who said anything of the sorts? I think you're point will be received as being lesser, because your corp in doing so will skip out on the planets of real worth.

Erm, I'm not a very good translator, but I think the theme of this post was closer to, "The imps are complete pricks, so we know they will try to take our planet just for ***** and giggles, so we would appreciate it if corps likeminded to us will lend a hand to us against them."

No offence, of course.

So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?

Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.

nope. I hate people that want stuff for free in this game. Earn it or stfu and gtfo basically.

I have heard enough from your tongue Bojo. Insulting a Negative Feedback director will never be tolerated. Especially when it is from a pathetic organization asking for food stamps on a video game

At this time Imperfects and her allies are Declaring War on Bojo and any organization allied with it.

Expect an official Imperfect Statement in the next 24 hours

It's about time you showed up.

Let's make amends...

Who says we don't have to pay ISK? Who says we won't have to fight? Who said anything of the sorts? I think you're point will be received as being lesser, because your corp in doing so will skip out on the planets of real worth.

Erm, I'm not a very good translator, but I think the theme of this post was closer to, "The imps are complete pricks, so we know they will try to take our planet just for ***** and giggles, so we would appreciate it if corps likeminded to us will lend a hand to us against them."

No offence, of course.

I have heard enough from your tongue Bojo. Insulting a Negative Feedback director will never be tolerated. Especially when it is from a pathetic organization asking for food stamps on a video game. You come here begging for assistance, and instead you insult us.

At this time Imperfects and her allies are Declaring War on Bojo and any organization affiliated with it.

Expect an official Imperfect Statement in the next 24 hours

I'm finding this whole exchange fairly amusing.

Schools: Hey everyone, we want to be here, which is basically a terrible place for launching attacks on anywhere.
imps: **** YOU! WE WANT THAT NAO!
Schools: It's basically useless.
imps: **** YOU! WE WANT IT SPECIFICALLY SO YOU CAN"T HAVE IT!
Schools: Okay then. Anyone want to help us out here?
imps: **** YOU! YOU SHOULD HAVE TO EARN EVERYTHING!
Schools: Like you do, with AFK'ing?
imps: ARGH! WARDEC WARDEC!

it's honestly kind of sad, you imp guys are supposed to be good at this game, but all you seem to do is AFK, protostomp randoms, and now threatening to wardec schools? that's just low.

Actually, no.

Since we have no means of getting cash from outside, we have to grind ISK for Gen Packs, same as you.

We will end up fighting, perhaps daily, same as you.

What we are asking for is a pledge from anyone who wants to be taken seriously as a kaiju to leave us alone and perhaps to help us if we need assistance running off griefers and/or sharks.

Any corp that is worth fearing has absolutely nothing to gain by smacking down the colleges.

Any "big name" corp that attacks a college has proved that they are either too incompetent or too chickenkitten to fight the real badkitten kaiju corps. Everybody knows that a corp like Imperfects could roll either college. All that doing so would prove is that the attacker is completely unable to stand toe-to-toe with Noir, Orion, or the other kaiju alliances.

Honestly, given that some of the kaijus have their own colleges, maybe it makes sense to go for a different planet and pack `em all in- each school gets one district as a "campus" and everything else is a battle zone.

Personally, I'm not wedded to Hageldnofarbenabelfraggingumptiboop either. I gave a bunch of reasons why it made sense, but I was a bit surprised when DU and Bojo ran with it as THE planet. I figured that we should reach out to the kaijus and get their hit on things before we made any announcements about a particular location.

However, the value of a college planet to the overall progress of the game is considerable. One of the reasons for The Blue Donut in EVE is the lack of good learning opportunities. If you are not in a kaiju alliance, you have no hope of learning sovereignty except by blowing a few trillion ISK learning the hard way. If you are in a kaiju alliance, you have no hope of learning sovereignty because you will never get trusted with the power and even if you were, your NAPs prohibit invading your neighbors.

Nicely summarized. Thank you.

I'm still wondering why your corp is not in the Negative-Feedback [DEVHX] alliance.

Neither the DEVHX alliance description nor the description of its executor corp (IMPPP) list you as a diplomatic contact or spokesman.

The fact of the matter, Mr. Regnum, is that you and your heretofore unidentified-as-a-spokesman "director" came in here looking for a fight. You came here looking for reasons to beat up colleges because you are terrified that people no longer take you seriously. Hence the board spam the last few days and all the necroing of Imp threads.

Mr. Spero I respect. He does a lot of work for the community, participates in RP, and still manages to be tough.

On the other hand-

You, sir, are a troll and the sooner that DEVHX officially disowns you the sooner the rest of Dust will start taking them seriously again.

Why? Because threatening to beat up colleges is about as awe-inspiring as picking a fight with Ralph Wiggum.

Really peg us as impotent bullies is really the best you got. Sorry pop pyschology tactics aside you have any better reason why we shouldn"t. I hear ISK is a pretty powerful motivator.

I'm finding this whole exchange fairly amusing.

Schools: Hey everyone, we want to be here, which is basically a terrible place for launching attacks on anywhere.
imps: **** YOU! WE WANT THAT NAO!
Schools: It's basically useless.
imps: **** YOU! WE WANT IT SPECIFICALLY SO YOU CAN"T HAVE IT!
Schools: Okay then. Anyone want to help us out here?
imps: **** YOU! YOU SHOULD HAVE TO EARN EVERYTHING!
Schools: Like you do, with AFK'ing?
imps: ARGH! WARDEC WARDEC!

it's honestly kind of sad, you imp guys are supposed to be good at this game, but all you seem to do is AFK, protostomp randoms, and now threatening to wardec schools? that's just low.

I'm still wondering why your corp is not in the Negative-Feedback [DEVHX] alliance.

Neither the DEVHX alliance description nor the description of its executor corp (IMPPP) list you as a diplomatic contact or spokesman.

The fact of the matter, Mr. Regnum, is that you and your heretofore unidentified-as-a-spokesman "director" came in here looking for a fight. You came here looking for reasons to beat up colleges because you are terrified that people no longer take you seriously. Hence the board spam the last few days and all the necroing of Imp threads.

Mr. Spero I respect. He does a lot of work for the community, participates in RP, and still manages to be tough.

On the other hand-

You, sir, are a troll and the sooner that DEVHX officially disowns you the sooner the rest of Dust will start taking them seriously again.

Why? Because threatening to beat up colleges is about as awe-inspiring as picking a fight with Ralph Wiggum.

So lend Academia a hand and stand up to the evil empire Help them Heathen Bastard you are their only hope

You don't care about ISK. You just want to watch the world burn.

I want both but ill settle for one over the other if i have to.

You decide

Bojo. Send me a mail in game and add Adanu on PSN if you want to talk defense contracts with the MSF. If you're paying, we'll defend.

Not really, you'll have to actually leave the MCC to fight them I've seen one imp do that. even a proto can't stop a zerg rush on their own, and I've seen dust uni(but no bojo's yet) those guys are not slackers on the field.

You truly must be new. hhahah warms my heart blueberries think they now.

Oh as far as AFKing goes we did you all a favor remember it was all you carebears that complained you couldn't get a fighting chance against named corps and closed beta vets.

Geez given a noobiebear an inch and they try to take a mile

They won't pay. We originally made that offer. Maybe they just don't like us and will pay you instead but they're neutral right?

I'll give you nothing and light you on fire. Deal?

Neutral doesn't mean they have to like you.

I see the logic in that but see the logic in this: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/an-update-dev-blog-for-planetary-conquest/

The attrition table states that clone movement on the same planet regardless of laboratory is 100% Survival rate. If we let other corporations on the planet, wouldn't that be an enticement to conquer it, as they lose no money in the process of even starting the campaign? Even a 5% attrition rate is good for us because in the case of invaders, looking to hunt on easy prey rather than grow cahones to play with the big boys, it would give us a homefield advantage. Even though 5% isn't much of attrition rate, it's the only attrition rate that can be achieved in one solar system.

EDIT: Forget the 5%, it's actually way more than that.

You're forgetting the part where that defense is double sided, basically preventing them from attacking anything without developing specifically towards it, and last I heard, it was 12 districts with them wanting a total of 6 between the schools on that planet, as a maximum.

STUFF

They will pay us ISK for them or they will get none. If this offends you, well you are welcome to try and stop it

In response to sota.

You think I'm doing this to make you feel bad? I'm doing it because you ARE bad. If you didn't suck octopus eggs you'd be out on the fields fighting and dying like proper immortal mercenaries, instead of hiding like scared children.

Why should the imps get any "protection" money when they should be concerned with shoring up their own defenses? hell, I want to see them losing districts left and right in their attempts to hurt the schools with single-minded zeal, to **** and moan on the forums about how everyone is being mean to them.

I will keep links to this thread saved so they can chronicle the genesis of their downfall. so they can trace it back to one man's ill placed declaration of war on their behalf.

Is that all you have? lol imps must be bad because they afk in MCC? I guess Pink n Fluffy making AFK a squad thing must be the worst group around *rolleyes*

if you try to troll any harder I might actually start laughing. I do love underdogs.

We make it a squad thing and I still get left out

nice try tho.

Nice try at what?

JL3Eleven does NOT speak on behalf of PFBHz.

LOL. I have never spoken for PFBHz, never have, never will. So what does that prove exactly? Step down from what?

So you speak for IE now?

LOL. I have never spoken for PFBHz, never have, never will. So what does that prove exactly?

So you speak for IE now?

It's not anywhere, it's in the sticks. So launching any attack from that planet is like suicide, your clones are just going to die, so you're going to have to throw down some money for installations and more Clone Packs.

You confuse me for SoTa_PoP - whose currently banned. I am SoTa of PoP. A completely different person. I know of him but never met.

And if you don't speak for them why did one of your directors feel the need to say that? Because they don't want you misleading people from the truth because you don't know everything.

Your forum trollfu is weak.

qq? I'm happy to take what they throw away, I spend smart. When they go broke, I'll be sitting pretty, on a pile of their ISK.

How much money do you lose to them? Oh, right, none, because your too busy hiding in MLT showing your weak side then to bring out your tough stuff, fear of losing a little isk. Yet you mock those who've preformed well enough that they can. You don't find people like you anywhere but in the FPS genre lol

I don't speak for them, but if you could read I was pointing out that maybe they could work something out with my leadership but you knew that. They said that because they are right, only you took it I had any power, Bojo was just hoping my corp would helpbut looks like they have other plans. So continue acting like you know what your talking about. You have no trollfu just troll fool.

You confuse me for SoTa_PoP - whose currently banned. I am SoTa of PoP. A completely different person. I know of him but never met.

And if you don't speak for them why did one of your directors feel the need to say that? Because they don't want you misleading people from the truth because you don't know everything.

Your forum trollfu is weak.

I'm sorry but none of this takes away from the point your leader pointed you out and said you do not speak for them. This leads anyone to conclude you do not hold all your corps information so you have no right to say whether a Pink n Fluffy did or did not start squad AFKing. And for you try means you consider yourself there speaker - versed in there history enough to give such a statement.

You need to take SP out of your arrogance and put it into trollfu.

Really, I'm the bad one because I beat their top tier with my crap gear? in most games that is considered skillful. I don't hide in militia, I use it to get better with my chosen weapons, so that when I eventually do skill into proto, I'll have the actual skill to back it up, not just rush to proto gear and guns and then rage on the forums because my gear is awesome, but my skill is still that of a noob.

I guess you really don't find people like that outside of FPS's, they're one of the few game types that isn't decided entirely by gear these days. you just need a rudimentary knowledge of tactics and psychology if you want to kill a proto with militia, not my fault that many proto users lack basic situational awareness after they kill some blueberries.

Orin being our leader is news to me

ha - typo. Meant to say one of :)

SoTa got that link of CCP in legal issues?

SoTa is currently banned - look for him in IRC. And if you haven't checked around that issue was recently resolved with CCP stating they have the rights to change terms of contracts. Try to keep up with news.

Typos happen a lot with ya huh? PHFB hater!

Or was it PHBZ?

You need to take SP out of your arrogance and put it into trollfu.

Trollfu is weak in this one. Please someone get him Zitros book.

Agreed...still waiting on that link SoTa.

Overlord Xero, why do I not get invited to AFKing squads? I wanna play too!

Agreed...still waiting on that link SoTa.

SoTa in IRC if you want the link. I am not him. Glad that high school education taught you to read.

And this thread is now awesome. Pink n Fluffy claiming to not AFK squad lololol

SoTa in IRC if you want the link. I am not him. Glad that high school education taught you to read.

And this thread is now awesome. Pink n Fluffy claiming to not AFK squad lololol

Haha...I am sorry I will get you into my CEO AFK squads... SoTa come... grab onto my pocket we are out of this thread.

Pics or speculation? which one you got?

Pics or speculation? which one you got?

Trying to deny it now? oh wait that's right - your only denying you guys didn't start it. Oh well - if you guys don't want the cred I'm sure the imps will take it :) or red star lol

Dude your really not good at this please stop. If you had comprehension level 5 you would notice I only stated we don't AFK in squads. and Yes you can have credit for starting it. And yes I can speak for all of PZhbf.

So yea pics or speculation? Which one you got?

Oh so you do deny PFBHz don't AFK squad farm? Your no longer worth reading for obvious lie.

Question dodging proficiency detected.

Still denying AFK squad farming? :)

Oh and Xero - from SoTa_PoP on IRC - "CCP can do whatever the hell it wants to screw us over. It was and never will be a legal issue and sorry for telling you otherwise, CCP is pro at vague statements. Forgive me for my terrible arrogance on that matter. I have squaded with Orin AFK farming btw - so stop claiming you guys don't."

So I guess you out trolled him and he's backing off. Good job - now try to keep him not tearing you up in every other topic, you've still a week till he's unbanned.

Still denying AFK squad farming? :)

Oh and Xero - from SoTa_PoP on IRC - "CCP can do whatever the hell it wants to screw us over. It was and never will be a legal issue and sorry for telling you otherwise, CCP is pro at vague statements. Forgive me for my terrible arrogance on that matter. I have squaded with Orin AFK farming btw - so stop claiming you guys don't."

So I guess you out trolled him and he's backing off. Good job - now try to keep him not tearing you up in every other topic, you've still a week till he's unbanned.

LOL. All this because you AFKed with Orin.

Maybe CCP banning you was so you could practice your trolling somewhere else and maybe get decent . Guess not

I am not this "You" you refer too and would like you to stop. Alts are banishable if owned by someone who is already banned and would not like to be mistaken as someone else who is currently in such a condition. I am my own man.

You are obviously an ALT and your poor trolling is carrying over to your new toon btw. Sorry obvious is obvious.

*Rolls his dice and gets 32* Sorry what? All the lies coming out of our posts makes it hard to take you seriously. Try not to get hard feelings over a game forum though :)

*Rolls his dice and gets 32* Sorry what? All the lies coming out of our posts makes it hard to take you seriously. Try not to get hard feelings over a game forum though :)

lol I'll just say it was obvious trolling and thank you and xero for all the fun so far - I'll make sure to get another topic going for us later . It's 4 AM and IRC has me drained with talks of PC... no new maps man... no new maps.... :(

You Pink guys are the only ones who are any fun to forum pvp with - you don't cry imps and will get down and dirty in the trolling ^_^

lol I'll just say it was obvious trolling and thank you and xero for all the fun so far - I'll make sure to get another topic going for us later . It's 4 AM and IRC has me drained with talks of PC... no new maps man... no new maps.... :(

You Pink guys are the only ones who are any fun to forum pvp with - you don't cry imps and will get down and dirty in the trolling ^_^

I have deleted a troll from this thread.

Sure im was forged and tested by the hottest flames known in all the known worlds. I am death incarnate such is the way of the IMPS, your puny yellow-colored flames are like air conditioning to me. I will use the heat to melt your suit and feast on the charred carcass you leave behind.

You're screwed no matter how you slice it, honestly. Pretending that Molden Heath is where CCP decides to start this off (nowhere near certain), Hedaleolfarber III is a huge economic asset. It's in a dead end system, and that's EXACTLY what makes it worth more, not less, than other planets in systems with many adjacent planets. It's very defensible because attacking it costs more.

In addition to being very defensible, I think it has something like 20 districts on it, right? That's nearly one tenth of all the districts we're expecting to be able to capture at all.

So Dust Uni is saying that you want 10% of potential PC income for free on a planet where that income is nearly guaranteed.

Sugar coating things isn't my style. There are two words explaining this whole situation: Misguided and stupid.

I guess the word "diplomacy" is different in your books than in mine, because in mine "diplomacy" involves talking to other parties first, and then taking action. You've done the opposite here. If you had stopped to talk to other parties in the first place, you'd know that your plans...

You still have a chance to make the smart decision for Dust Uni and pull back on your plan to go into PC. Use Fac War for additional training exercises and wait until the major planetary sov holding parties settle down a bit after the starting pandemonium. Then negotiate 3 districts or so somewhere.

You have the whole spiritual support of Onward! Defrosted Tuna Team!

Trying to deny it now? oh wait that's right - your only denying you guys didn't start it. Oh well - if you guys don't want the cred I'm sure the imps will take it :) or red star lol

What we are asking for is a pledge from anyone who wants to be taken seriously as a kaiju to leave us alone and perhaps to help us if we need assistance running off griefers and/or sharks.

Any corp that is worth fearing has absolutely nothing to gain by smacking down the colleges.

Any "big name" corp that attacks a college has proved that they are either too incompetent or too chickenkitten to fight the real badkitten kaiju corps. Everybody knows that a corp like Imperfects could roll either college. All that doing so would prove is that the attacker is completely unable to stand toe-to-toe with Noir, Orion, or the other kaiju alliances..

He can't hear you I stomped him too far into the ground.

First off....Bojo, please tell me you're talking to Vaerana Myshtana about becoming a diplomat...

Secondly, DUST University orginally posted our intentions to take a specific planet for two key reasons, NEITHER of which involve asking for donations or agreed upon support.

1. Maintaining our neutral stance by declaring our intentions to the public so that our mission is clear to all. Our goal is a subset of districts on the planet, period.

2. To fulfill the promise of transparency we made to the communinity during our original discussion regarding our participation in PC. This also ties back to our stance on neutrality.

Also, to be clear, Bojo's School of the Trades does not have the same stance on neutrality as DUST University. By taking such a hard stance on neutrality DUNI may in fact be making things more difficult for itself but we have a vision we want to fulfill...and we won't let the difficulties of our mission deter us from our goals.

We've staked a claim and we will do it again if the region changes. If organizations or individuals want to support us because of what we're trying to accomplish that's completely up to them. If they want to attack we will defend. If the claimed districts are taken we will take them back unless WE deem it to be counter to our mission. We will continue to support the community at large regardless of what the future brings.

Alcare Xavier Golden
Chief Diplomat
Director of Communications

Great speech Chief Diplomat Golden, to bad we are still taking your stuff.

Free Beers
Chief Taker of Other People Stuff
Director of Trolling, Extortion, Public Belittlement

To be honest Beers, I could care less about the titles...just wanted to be clear that I do in fact speak for DUNI considering some of the side conversations going on in this thread. :)

As far as taking our stuff...the harder we fight to keep our stuff or to take our stuff back the faster the education process becomes...mission on target.

Continue Beers, not that you need my permission ofcourse, but you often have good points

And they'll still be able to rally defenders. By some twisted variant of honor(dunno, maybe professionalism? basically, douchebags attack schools, most people don't like douchebags, even in new eden.) or calling on their recruits who have moved on to bigger and better things. Or by simply getting the attackers to point out EXACTLY where(it may be a backwater planet, but you keep saying you'll want it the second a flag is down. that leaves you to either dedicate all resources to attacking, or you look like the chest pounding paper tigers you are) they're going to be, setting up perfectly for anyone who doesn't like their MCC afk'ing asses to step right up and wear their hobnailed boots while they stomp.

So you are siding with Bojo

While we can only field a couple of squads (on a good day) and don't intend to get much bigger, the 0RCS are willing to help whenever we can. Whether you are a small or a large corporation, if you believe this is an effort that will make the DUST and EVE universe better, show your support. If not, I suppose we'll see you on the battlefield.

It's very naive of these corps to think they can just "claim" a planet without fighting for it. I wish you the best of luck though you never know what might happen.

Who will protect our schools from invaders?

They are expecting to fight for it. They are just looking for those that are interested in helping in order to establish a school planet. Funny thing, people trying to build something interesting in this sandbox.

...My point is, every corp. is planning ahead for PC, why can't the "academic" schools do so as well?

He can't hear you I stomped him too far into the ground.

1. Our upper limit for training requirements is 3 districts. One as a sovereign where we can regroup if needed and two that will in no doubt be in perma PC combat for our students to practice in a friendly fire enabled environment. The reason that we need 2 extra to Bojo's one is that we have a few more players that require the training.

2. We're not in this for the ISK.

3. Attacking a University of new players maybe fulfilling a need to make a point or simply be just a laugh. But others may just be waiting to take advantage of the situation. I'd watch your flank while spending resources on attacking us or Bojo.

3. I'm hoping it does cause people to attack us, fighting is what this game is all about. You don't enter a queue and get ported into battle only to sit in the MCC do you.... wait.

IMPS rule, 0RCS drool

Our upper limit for training requirements is 3 districts. One as a sovereign where we can regroup if needed and two that will in no doubt be in perma PC combat for our students to practice in a friendly fire enabled environment. The reason that we need 2 extra to Bojo's one is that we have a few more players that require the training.

It has been mentioned that we should stick to faction warfare contracts and were it not for the lack of friendly fire in them we would in all likelihood be doing just that. If CCP announced that friendly fire was to be enabled in all game modes save for pub matches, we would certainly rethink our strategy.

Some have said that our motives are nothing more than an attempt to gain ISK wealth with no desire to fight for it. Well, that wealth would come from selling excess clones but with a self imposed limit on districts and the fact that we expect very high clone attraction rates from training, we'll be lucky to break even. We're not in this for the ISK.

We have also merely asked for the community to respect our plans and for its support in our endeavour, we haven't demanded it. Any corp is entirely free to do what it wants in this regard.

We are a training corp. Our students may very well be your comrades when they wish to make their own mark. If we train as many as we can to the basics and beyond, then that only benefits us all. And as a training corp, we've no objection to have ads and links from any corp who asks, for our students to read and apply to. Even those that wish to attack us.

If you feel our goals are not laudable or worthy of your support then you must do what you feel you must. And we will defend ourselves to the best of our abilities. It's all training after all. I would urge caution however. Strategically speaking, I'm sure that there are many other corps waiting to see what happens on and just after 6 May. Attacking a University of new players maybe fulfilling a need to make a point or simply be just a laugh. But others may just be waiting to take advantage of the situation. I'd watch your flank while spending resources on attacking us or Bojo.

Its what I'd do if I were in their position.

Stuff

I don't understand why people don't expect we can defend ourselves- we have multiple corps willing to defend it, not to mention eve connections to handle the spacefront.

Cause the Neckbeards will be able to magically help you with continuous orbital bombardment. At least their strikes have no WP requirement.

I'm not just talking about bombardment. I'm sure people won't just magically teleport into a district. Not to mention that they can hold off anyone trying to bombard against us.

Set up a corp battle with I.E. or any top corp and find out why people think you can't defend yourselves lol

Please, as if they would be able to coordinate anything worthwhile anymore.

A corp's ability to field 8 people means nothing when it's a planet we're talking about

Please, as if they would be able to coordinate anything worthwhile anymore.

A corp's ability to field 8 people means nothing when it's a planet we're talking about

but your corp can't even get 8 together for a CB - why would anyone think people who are chicken to play good corps stand a chance against 'em come PC? I can almost promise you you'd be red lined by any top corp. Your down to relying on charity if you go through with this idea of a planet.

That is correct. It's not like we give away money and not expect donations from our students So yeah, would the Salvation Army stand up close to Blackwater? Hell nah, but a bunch of poor people would.

a district only takes 16 to attack or defend. so we could put up 2 8v8 contacts at a time. We have impswarm members that would be happy to train against you

sadly i doubt you would have 16 players that would want to. Thus proving this whole scam by dustbojouni is to fill your person pockets with isk from clones.