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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:20:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:You know if you really want it that badly im sure there those that would gladly secure it for you. For the right price of course We're getting DT'd here by the same corp. You guys at Internal need to regroup and say one thing, not two. We have Beers saying "The meek ain't gon' inherit ****, cuz I'll take it." and then we have Mr. Nightingale saying "For money I gotcha back"
Double Trolled man.... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1248
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:22:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, you pay him what he wants. You have to be joking. Are you guys trying to overextend yourselves, or what? Last time I checked, you aren't even capable of getting mentioned as a corp people are afraid to see in battle (mentioning yourselves in every other thread doesn't count) |
DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
66
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:34:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Hello all, as a primer, read the first post in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68333Bojo's School of the Trades (BSOTT) and Dust University (D-UNI) are openly seeking to plant our schools on the Planet Hadeleolfarber III should Planetary Conquest open up in Molden Heath. Our reasons behind this planet is that it is both a dead end planet, it is not an access point to anywhere in particular other than itself, and it is low in value. What we seek on this planet is a way to liberate our wallets from donations and prevention of Taxing (we will not!) and most importantly, a way to prepare the mercs of tomorrow, by throwing them into the real conditions, but in a controlled environment. They will be exposed to Friendly Fire which I'm sure every employer will agree, makes our students more appealing candidates. What I'm asking for is a hand, a gesture of kindness. Who stands for what we stand for? Who will protect our schools from invaders? Who supports our actions for the taking of this planet? I ask these questions because I've been asked to partake BSOTT in another alliance, who says that we need them to defend our interests. I said to them that the community has our back, they will aid in our time of need. So to prove them wrong, sign here. Signed, Bojo's School of the Trades Dust University L.O.T.I.S Red Rock Outriders J3Eleven (maybe on behalf of PFBHz) On behalf of Federation Of Small Corporation would be willing support your endeavor. All we ask if we can send our new guy over for training.
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Free Beers wrote:The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, you pay him what he wants. You have to be joking. Are you guys trying to overextend yourselves, or what? Last time I checked, you aren't even capable of getting mentioned as a corp people are afraid to see in battle (mentioning yourselves in every other thread doesn't count)
I do love this thread. This is what its all about. You know your not supposed to poke the bear right? |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:53:00 -
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im pretty sure we wont attack. remember we have 843 boot camp that also train. add my name and corp like the pfbhz guy |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:56:00 -
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we "might" protect you and give u isk but i dont officaly represnt us |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:59:00 -
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Btw bojo, check your mail on enjin. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
920
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:16:00 -
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My Response |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:16:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Free Beers wrote:The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, you pay him what he wants. You have to be joking. Are you guys trying to overextend yourselves, or what? Last time I checked, you aren't even capable of getting mentioned as a corp people are afraid to see in battle (mentioning yourselves in every other thread doesn't count)
I guess your new here. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:17:00 -
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will dust university join you? |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
920
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:20:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:will dust university join you? Dust University is allied with BSOTT on the planet arrangement. Reference Post # 10 |
Free Beers
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:24:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:will dust university join you? Dust University is allied with BSOTT on the planet arrangement. Reference Post # 10
Do you even lift? |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
392
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:28:00 -
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If indeed molden heath is the location of the first opening, then Hedaleolfarber is actually an ideal planet for a corporation. not only does it have plenty of districts, but it also is isolated from attack. JL3Eleven does NOT speak on behalf of PFBHz. We aren't sure where we're going to settle, if we settle at all, but I personally think you're in for a tough time if you think you're going to just be able to split 12 districts between two corps with absolutely no competition. in fact, by advertising, you are just opening yourselves up to invasion early on, since everyone knows the two corps are filled with newer guys. (Thats the point).
I'm just going to tell it to you how it is. You should abandon this idea of hoping people will come to your aid. Wait a few months after Uprising, see how things turn out, then find a planet that is least contested. Or wait until they release more regions, leaving you more space to deal with. because at first, with such a limited amount of Districts, you're going to be hard pressed to find any districts that aren't almost constantly being fought over.
More power to you though. But I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I don't support this method of "claiming a planet". This is not a game for charitable people. What you are doing with these learning corps is admirable, but you say you want to "eliminate taxes". Well, thats what a lot of other corps probably hope to do with taking districts. how are they less important than you? |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:29:00 -
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if you stay neutral and train. we might help. if u reach full capacity redirect new recruits to 843 boot camp |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
6
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:32:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:J3Eleven (maybe on behalf of PFBHz)
Negative. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
920
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:35:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:split 12 districts between two corps We don't want all twelve districts, anymore I guess, so people can have the extras, we only want , well in my mind, I'd only want upwards of 6 for the two of us combined. As a max. But DUNI would have to agree to that and yada yada yada |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:36:00 -
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as pfbhz have stated ur base is a prime location and if u truly are a training corp why do u need land? this is sucspicous... |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
920
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:38:00 -
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we need land to
A) Generate Money so we don't go broke and say "Screw training people" then leave a void of training corps and have new people get frustrated and cease to exist
B) To train people with Friendly Fire. I'm sure that when our graduates go on to your corps, you'd want someone who doesn't destroy friendly HAVs.... |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:39:00 -
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quick question pfbhz ive never heard of noir. mercenary group what corps r part of it |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
6
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:42:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:quick question pfbhz ive never heard of noir. mercenary group what corps r part of it
EvE Who
Dotlan
^Good sites to know. |
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Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1343
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:45:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:If indeed molden heath is the location of the first opening, then Hedaleolfarber is actually an ideal planet for a corporation. not only does it have plenty of districts, but it also is isolated from attack. JL3Eleven does NOT speak on behalf of PFBHz. We aren't sure where we're going to settle, if we settle at all, but I personally think you're in for a tough time if you think you're going to just be able to split 12 districts between two corps with absolutely no competition. in fact, by advertising, you are just opening yourselves up to invasion early on, since everyone knows the two corps are filled with newer guys. (Thats the point).
I'm just going to tell it to you how it is. You should abandon this idea of hoping people will come to your aid. Wait a few months after Uprising, see how things turn out, then find a planet that is least contested. Or wait until they release more regions, leaving you more space to deal with. because at first, with such a limited amount of Districts, you're going to be hard pressed to find any districts that aren't almost constantly being fought over.
More power to you though. But I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I don't support this method of "claiming a planet". This is not a game for charitable people. What you are doing with these learning corps is admirable, but you say you want to "eliminate taxes". Well, thats what a lot of other corps probably hope to do with taking districts. how are they less important than you?
I said the exact same thing to him Orin.
Free Beers wrote:Do you even lift?
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:45:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:we need land to
A) Generate Money so we don't go broke and say "Screw training people" then leave a void of training corps and have new people get frustrated and cease to exist
B) To train people with Friendly Fire. I'm sure that when our graduates go on to your corps, you'd want someone who doesn't destroy friendly HAVs.... ok. i extend my hand in peace, but if any conflict directed at our alliance we will invade. do not attempt any violent acts against cronos,orion empre,eon or other large alliances for your sake. (i do not officaly represent us) |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:45:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:as pfbhz have stated ur base is a prime location and if u truly are a training corp why do u need land? this is sucspicous...
The planet in question is only a prime base for a corp with no ambitions. It is three jumps from the nearest other PC planets, meaning that you have to dedicate a lot of SI to Science Labs, lose a lot of clones to attrition, or buy lots of Gen packs to attack anywhere else.
The explanation for needing land is long and complicated, but here are the highlights:
- Friendly Fire (Teaching in a FF environment) - PC Interfaces (Learning them to teach them) - Clone supply to enable FF practice battles - Income (small) to offset ISK losses from training supplies in the absence of other funding methods (no trading)
It is also worth noting that we are only having discussions about specific planets because BSOTT took the initiative to conduct serious research into the starting region. There is still no official CCP announcement (so it could change), but the data currently available was provided to the entire community at the same time as part of our educational outreach. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:47:00 -
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Dis Cord wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:quick question pfbhz ive never heard of noir. mercenary group what corps r part of it EvE WhoDotlan^Good sites to know. just saying if ur alliance dosent work out u can join orion empire |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:49:00 -
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Dis Cord wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:quick question pfbhz ive never heard of noir. mercenary group what corps r part of it EvE WhoDotlan^Good sites to know.
These are very important. It is worth noting that in many cases the diplomatic contacts for alliances are often listed in the descriptions or in the description of the executor corp.
Realistically, we should be talking to those people more than the forums at-large. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
920
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:49:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:If indeed molden heath is the location of the first opening, then Hedaleolfarber is actually an ideal planet for a corporation.
More power to you though. But I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I don't support this method of "claiming a planet". This is not a game for charitable people. What you are doing with these learning corps is admirable, but you say you want to "eliminate taxes". Well, thats what a lot of other corps probably hope to do with taking districts. how are they less important than you? Hedaleolfarber is actually not ideal, Altbrard is, which has 14 districts and the same set up. Hedaleolfarber's dead end set up is seen as Defensive gold, but if everybody set up PC around the defense, more than half the planets would go untouched. Some planets offer great offensive position, being on the routes to various locations, making it a good home base for outward expansion. We are choosing a defensive secluded planet because that prevents invasion and also frees up the more offensive planets to the corporations who wish to attack things.
Look we gotta set up shop somewhere and we're merely letting you guys know that this is where. It's of least value and is not the only dead end planet out there. Altbrard is the same but more! |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:50:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:as pfbhz have stated ur base is a prime location and if u truly are a training corp why do u need land? this is sucspicous... The planet in question is only a prime base for a corp with no ambitions. It is three jumps from the nearest other PC planets, meaning that you have to dedicate a lot of SI to Science Labs, lose a lot of clones to attrition, or buy lots of Gen packs to attack anywhere else. The explanation for needing land is long and complicated, but here are the highlights: - Friendly Fire (Teaching in a FF environment) - PC Interfaces (Learning them to teach them) - Clone supply to enable FF practice battles - Income (small) to offset ISK losses from training supplies in the absence of other funding methods (no trading) It is also worth noting that we are only having discussions about specific planets because BSOTT took the initiative to conduct serious research into the starting region. There is still no official CCP announcement (so it could change), but the data currently available was provided to the entire community at the same time as part of our educational outreach. alright |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
920
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:53:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:as pfbhz have stated ur base is a prime location and if u truly are a training corp why do u need land? this is sucspicous... The planet in question is only a prime base for a corp with no ambitions. It is three jumps from the nearest other PC planets, meaning that you have to dedicate a lot of SI to Science Labs, lose a lot of clones to attrition, or buy lots of Gen packs to attack anywhere else. The explanation for needing land is long and complicated, but here are the highlights: - Friendly Fire (Teaching in a FF environment) - PC Interfaces (Learning them to teach them) - Clone supply to enable FF practice battles - Income (small) to offset ISK losses from training supplies in the absence of other funding methods (no trading) It is also worth noting that we are only having discussions about specific planets because BSOTT took the initiative to conduct serious research into the starting region. There is still no official CCP announcement (so it could change), but the data currently available was provided to the entire community at the same time as part of our educational outreach. You're way better at PR than me, take over this thread will ya? |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
694
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:06:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:If indeed molden heath is the location of the first opening, then Hedaleolfarber is actually an ideal planet for a corporation.
More power to you though. But I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I don't support this method of "claiming a planet". This is not a game for charitable people. What you are doing with these learning corps is admirable, but you say you want to "eliminate taxes". Well, thats what a lot of other corps probably hope to do with taking districts. how are they less important than you? Hedaleolfarber is actually not ideal, Altbrard is, which has 14 districts and the same set up. Hedaleolfarber's dead end set up is seen as Defensive gold, but if everybody set up PC around the defense, more than half the planets would go untouched. Some planets offer great offensive position, being on the routes to various locations, making it a good home base for outward expansion. We are choosing a defensive secluded planet because that prevents invasion and also frees up the more offensive planets to the corporations who wish to attack things. Look we gotta set up shop somewhere and we're merely letting you guys know that this is where. It's of least value and is not the only dead end planet out there. Altbrard is the same but more!
Indeed, a corp with dreams of expansion that doesn't quite feel ready to take on the kaijus would be best served by setting up in one of these areas:
- Sakulda midpocket: 3 planets, 29 districts (3 jumps) - Klingt midpocket: 2 planets, 27 districts (2 jumps) - Oddelulf-Bosena midpocket: 2 planets, 37 districts (2 jumps)
By comparison, these are small-potatoes systems that only tiny corps would find worthwhile after a week or two:
- Altbrard minipocket: 1 planet, 14 districts (2 jumps) - Hedaleofarber minipocket: 1 planet, 12 districts (3 jumps) - Hrober minipocket: 2 planets, 15 districts (3 jumps)
The real prizes, the ones that the kaijus should be fighting over are the:
- Tartatven-Elfrard megapocket: 8 planets, 67 districts (2 jumps) - Eoldulf-Besateoden megapocket: 5 planets, 43 planets (2 jumps) |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1343
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:12:00 -
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So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?
Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.
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