The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, if you pay him what he wants.

Or the battle gets drawn out and is no longer profitable or worthwhile and you remember about PRO.

You don't play monopoly with no money and ask for boardwalk at the beginning. Some alliance will own this planet but it wont be Dustbojouni

Hello all, as a primer, read the first post in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68333

Bojo's School of the Trades (BSOTT) and Dust University (D-UNI) are openly seeking to plant our schools on the Planet Hadeleolfarber III should Planetary Conquest open up in Molden Heath. Our reasons behind this planet is that it is both a dead end planet, it is not an access point to anywhere in particular other than itself, and it is low in value. What we seek on this planet is a way to liberate our wallets from donations and prevention of Taxing (we will not!) and most importantly, a way to prepare the mercs of tomorrow, by throwing them into the real conditions, but in a controlled environment. They will be exposed to Friendly Fire which I'm sure every employer will agree, makes our students more appealing candidates.

What I'm asking for is a hand, a gesture of kindness. Who stands for what we stand for? Who will protect our schools from invaders? Who supports our actions for the taking of this planet? I ask these questions because I've been asked to partake BSOTT in another alliance, who says that we need them to defend our interests. I said to them that the community has our back, they will aid in our time of need. So to prove them wrong, sign here.

Dead-end system, not accessible, so not worth anything... LOL

Such a dead-end system is pretty much the holy grail of a medium-sized corp or coalition, since it protects them against the large blocks.

Really, what you'd want do is declare (not request for non invasion pacts) that BSOTT and D-UNI will take two districts on the planet as core districts. If those districts are captured you'll spend every day attacking to regain them no matter how much ISK it costs.

Then leave the rest of the districts as a free-for-all. If some outside corp gets in then there's plenty of opportunities for students to learning politics, if it's just BSOTT and D-UNI then fight it out. Make some arrangement that if an outside corp takes over a district the universities won't kick them out of their last district unless there's less than three attackable districts left. (Less than three multi-district outsider and/or opposite univ corp has more than their core of districts)

In any case the point is that you won't be able to keep outsiders from wanting your planet, but at least you can try to fill it up with people who will respect the core districts. E.g. if there's 2-3 outsiders on the planet they're less likely to go for the core districts since they know you'll spend as much ISK as needed to take them back, while they're getting attacked from all sides.

Thank you kind sir, i have been feverishly trying to broker a piece of prime real estate for Sontie and his listing he requested here
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=643592#post643592

This scouting report you have provided is perfectly suited to those needs and will quickly make my recommendations to him for the acquistions fase. This indeed will be a glorious commission and i thank you for your diligent scouting.

I see the logic in that but see the logic in this: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/an-update-dev-blog-for-planetary-conquest/

The attrition table states that clone movement on the same planet regardless of laboratory is 100% Survival rate. If we let other corporations on the planet, wouldn't that be an enticement to conquer it, as they lose no money in the process of even starting the campaign? Even a 5% attrition rate is good for us because in the case of invaders, looking to hunt on easy prey rather than grow cahones to play with the big boys, it would give us a homefield advantage. Even though 5% isn't much of attrition rate, it's the only attrition rate that can be achieved in one solar system.

I see the logic in that but see the logic in this: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/an-update-dev-blog-for-planetary-conquest/

The attrition table states that clone movement on the same planet regardless of laboratory is 100% Survival rate. If we let other corporations on the planet, wouldn't that be an enticement to conquer it, as they lose no money in the process of even starting the campaign? Even a 5% attrition rate is good for us because in the case of invaders, looking to hunt on easy prey rather than grow cahones to play with the big boys, it would give us a homefield advantage. Even though 5% isn't much of attrition rate, it's the only attrition rate that can be achieved in one solar system.

Sorry you want to talk about cohones and you want to ask for volunteers to protect the schools dafauq?

Mercs don't work for free, im surprised even the bunnies would offer that , they must not of cleared it with EVE alliance cause noir doesnt work on credit or for free?

And if you join an alliance can you really keep considering yourself neutral?


Someday you can have a planet maybe? but i wouldnt be so quick to think its going to happen on the launch of PC sorry too many people not enough land.

School: Filled with new players, learning to play. Corp: Out for money and fights. I have a school, we're not full of bloodlust mercenaries out to make money. We don't fight with you guys because we focus on training. We are admitting that we have weaker defenses than other corps, we're not built around fighting. So it's a pretty low brow move to take candy from a baby in layman's terms.

Merc's don't work for free? Why the hell have people been playing corp battles then? *Say it in Buk Lau voice*

I never considered BSOTT Neutral, that's DUNI's thing. And BSOTT is not joining any alliances.

Too many people not enough land? You'll tell me that when all of New Eden is open to mercs, and we like our food when it's hot.

EDIT: That came off as mean....what I want to get at is that Training Corps are inferior to other Corps in terms of ability to defend, and we're aware of that so we're just asking the big folk to lend a helping hand when/if space invaders arrive to take from us because we are easier prey. Those invaders would be taking the low road in my opinion that does not matter.

School: Filled with new players, learning to play. Corp: Out for money and fights. I have a school, we're not full of bloodlust mercenaries out to make money. We don't fight with you guys because we focus on training. We are admitting that we have weaker defenses than other corps, we're not built around fighting. So it's a pretty low brow move to take candy from a baby in layman's terms.

Merc's don't work for free? Why the hell have people been playing corp battles then? *Say it in Buk Lau voice*

I never considered BSOTT Neutral, that's DUNI's thing. And BSOTT is not joining any alliances.

Too many people not enough land? You'll tell me that when all of New Eden is open to mercs, and we like our food when it's hot.

EDIT: That came off as mean....what I want to get at is that Training Corps are inferior to other Corps in terms of ability to defend, and we're aware of that so we're just asking the big folk to lend a helping hand when/if space invaders arrive to take from us because we are easier prey. Those invaders would be taking the low road in my opinion that does not matter.

For the recors i like BSOTT, DUNI i can live without Doesn't change can't call dibs on a planet and not expect someone to go now wait just a minute there you want well we want it now just so you can't have it?

Pettty yes
Cruel yes

Exactly what you'd expect of big bad mean mercs... damn tootin.

If we had a training corp with nothing but new members there wouldn't be much training going on, would there? Schools of any kind typically have faculty.

For the recors i like BSOTT, DUNI i can live without Doesn't change can't call dibs on a planet and not expect someone to go now wait just a minute there you want well we want it now just so you can't have it?

Pettty yes
Cruel yes

Exactly what you'd expect of big bad mean mercs... damn tootin.

What a name...

I would like to point out that I feel like Academia III still needs a third party on world.

12 districts:

4 Battle Zones (1 per major TZ group)
3 DU Campus (their number, not mine)
2 BSOTT Campus (last number I heard discussed)
3 Other

This "third party" could be another college or it could be three different "booster" corps that provide adjunct faculty, both in the form of teaching part-time and attacking the BZs during scheduled battles.

Such booster corps would of course be signatories to the Treaty of Academia.

Those corps, purely by virtue of their contact with students (not any special quid-pro-quo) would be most likely to recruit the best and brightest students.

Maybe we should all stop talking about it and just wait for the opportunity to settle it and remind you how much worse your bark is compared to your bite.

Yeah, when you two solidified this planet as the one, I was pretty intimidated by the district number. So preferably, another college of sorts would take those districts.

GATT
IMPSwarm

Those are candidates...I just got the creepiest shiver running down my spine....

I'm just gonna leave my two cents right here.

You're basically asking for 12 districts of prime real estate and then claiming that no one should attack you.

Why not take Kadlina instead. It's only got seven districts so you're not asking that much, no stations and only two tech moons. On top of that it's still deadend.

Your asking for the most defendable (and therefore most valuable) moon in Molden Heath and then claiming people shouldn't attack you.

Bottom Line: You can't have it both ways. Either pick a small, unvaluable planet and then create a pact to punish any corp dumb enough to try to take it or pick on that's easily defended and defend that. If you're not going to play the game get to the sidelines.

I'm just gonna leave my two cents right here.

You're basically asking for 12 districts of prime real estate and then claiming that no one should attack you.

Why not take Kadlina instead. It's only got seven districts so you're not asking that much, no stations and only two tech moons. On top of that it's still deadend.

Your asking for the most defendable (and therefore most valuable) moon in Molden Heath and then claiming people shouldn't attack you.

Bottom Line: You can't have it both ways. Either pick a small, unvaluable planet and then create a pact to punish any corp dumb enough to try to take it or pick on that's easily defended and defend that. If you're not going to play the game get to the sidelines.

Kadlina was considered. Unfortunately, it is part of the Tartatven-Elfrard megapocket. This megapocket will likely become the province of one or two of the kaiju corps within a month or so of Uprising.

From a district number standpoint, it is also too small to support the four combat TZs that DU is looking to host. Last I heard, the leadership of DU felt that they would need three districts to supply the clones to supply those four battles per day.

That is seven districts right there.

Wait... Kadlina has TECH MOONS...?!