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Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.04.17 21:52:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Free Beers wrote:The Mercs of Regnum will crush you, unless of course, if you pay him what he wants. Or the battle gets drawn out and is no longer profitable or worthwhile and you remember about PRO. You don't play monopoly with no money and ask for boardwalk at the beginning. Some alliance will own this planet but it wont be Dustbojouni
IKR whats with everyone trying to impose a virtual nanny state, isnt Amerikuh good enough |
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:43:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Dead-end system, not accessible, so not worth anything... LOL
Such a dead-end system is pretty much the holy grail of a medium-sized corp or coalition, since it protects them against the large blocks.
Really, what you'd want do is declare (not request for non invasion pacts) that BSOTT and D-UNI will take two districts on the planet as core districts. If those districts are captured you'll spend every day attacking to regain them no matter how much ISK it costs.
Then leave the rest of the districts as a free-for-all. If some outside corp gets in then there's plenty of opportunities for students to learning politics, if it's just BSOTT and D-UNI then fight it out. Make some arrangement that if an outside corp takes over a district the universities won't kick them out of their last district unless there's less than three attackable districts left. (Less than three multi-district outsider and/or opposite univ corp has more than their core of districts)
In any case the point is that you won't be able to keep outsiders from wanting your planet, but at least you can try to fill it up with people who will respect the core districts. E.g. if there's 2-3 outsiders on the planet they're less likely to go for the core districts since they know you'll spend as much ISK as needed to take them back, while they're getting attacked from all sides. I see the logic in that but see the logic in this: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/an-update-dev-blog-for-planetary-conquest/The attrition table states that clone movement on the same planet regardless of laboratory is 100% Survival rate. If we let other corporations on the planet, wouldn't that be an enticement to conquer it, as they lose no money in the process of even starting the campaign? Even a 5% attrition rate is good for us because in the case of invaders, looking to hunt on easy prey rather than grow cahones to play with the big boys, it would give us a homefield advantage. Even though 5% isn't much of attrition rate, it's the only attrition rate that can be achieved in one solar system.
Sorry you want to talk about cohones and you want to ask for volunteers to protect the schools dafauq?
Mercs don't work for free, im surprised even the bunnies would offer that , they must not of cleared it with EVE alliance cause noir doesnt work on credit or for free?
And if you join an alliance can you really keep considering yourself neutral?
Someday you can have a planet maybe? but i wouldnt be so quick to think its going to happen on the launch of PC sorry too many people not enough land. |
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:44:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote: Sorry you want to talk about cohones and you want to ask for volunteers to protect the schools dafauq?
Mercs don't work for free, im surprised even the bunnies would offer that , they must not of cleared it with EVE alliance cause noir doesnt work on credit or for free?
And if you join an alliance can you really keep considering yourself neutral?
Someday you can have a planet maybe? but i wouldnt be so quick to think its going to happen on the launch of PC sorry too many people not enough land.
School: Filled with new players, learning to play. Corp: Out for money and fights. I have a school, we're not full of bloodlust mercenaries out to make money. We don't fight with you guys because we focus on training. We are admitting that we have weaker defenses than other corps, we're not built around fighting. So it's a pretty low brow move to take candy from a baby in layman's terms. Merc's don't work for free? Why the hell have people been playing corp battles then? *Say it in Buk Lau voice* I never considered BSOTT Neutral, that's DUNI's thing. And BSOTT is not joining any alliances. Too many people not enough land? You'll tell me that when all of New Eden is open to mercs, and we like our food when it's hot. EDIT: That came off as mean....what I want to get at is that Training Corps are inferior to other Corps in terms of ability to defend, and we're aware of that so we're just asking the big folk to lend a helping hand when/if space invaders arrive to take from us because we are easier prey. Those invaders would be taking the low road in my opinion that does not matter.
For the recors i like BSOTT, DUNI i can live without |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 00:57:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:For the recors i like BSOTT, DUNI i can live without Doesn't change can't call dibs on a planet and not expect someone to go now wait just a minute there you want well we want it now just so you can't have it? Pettty yes Cruel yes Exactly what you'd expect of big bad mean mercs... damn tootin. Maybe we should all stop talking about it and just wait for the opportunity to settle it and remind you how much worse your bark is compared to your bite.
Maybe; doesn't mean its not enough to make you lot run like a bunch of scared lil schoolgirls |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:11:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Scrubby McScrubscrub wrote:I'm just gonna leave my two cents right here.
You're basically asking for 12 districts of prime real estate and then claiming that no one should attack you.
Why not take Kadlina instead. It's only got seven districts so you're not asking that much, no stations and only two tech moons. On top of that it's still deadend.
Your asking for the most defendable (and therefore most valuable) moon in Molden Heath and then claiming people shouldn't attack you.
Bottom Line: You can't have it both ways. Either pick a small, unvaluable planet and then create a pact to punish any corp dumb enough to try to take it or pick on that's easily defended and defend that. If you're not going to play the game get to the sidelines. Kadlina was considered. Unfortunately, it is part of the Tartatven-Elfrard megapocket. This megapocket will likely become the province of one or two of the kaiju corps within a month or so of Uprising. From a district number standpoint, it is also too small to support the four combat TZs that DU is looking to host. Last I heard, the leadership of DU felt that they would need three districts to supply the clones to supply those four battles per day. That is seven districts right there. Wait... Kadlina has TECH MOONS...?!
You know if you really want it that badly im sure there those that would gladly secure it for you. For the right price of course
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:12:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Free Beers wrote:So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?
Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.
Who says we don't have to pay ISK? Who says we won't have to fight? Who said anything of the sorts? I think you're point will be received as being lesser, because your corp in doing so will skip out on the planets of real worth.
Who said we wanted planets?
Some men just want to see the world burn |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:13:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Free Beers wrote:So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?
Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.
Erm, I'm not a very good translator, but I think the theme of this post was closer to, "The imps are complete pricks, so we know they will try to take our planet just for ***** and giggles, so we would appreciate it if corps likeminded to us will lend a hand to us against them." No offence, of course.
INB4 apology demand |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:15:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Free Beers wrote:So you want for free what all the other mercs have to grind isk for and fight on a daily basis to keep?
Are that lazy or just that incapable? Where ever you put down a flag so will imps just to prove a point.
Actually, no. Since we have no means of getting cash from outside, we have to grind ISK for Gen Packs, same as you. We will end up fighting, perhaps daily, same as you. What we are asking for is a pledge from anyone who wants to be taken seriously as a kaiju to leave us alone and perhaps to help us if we need assistance running off griefers and/or sharks. Any corp that is worth fearing has absolutely nothing to gain by smacking down the colleges. Any "big name" corp that attacks a college has proved that they are either too incompetent or too chickenkitten to fight the real badkitten kaiju corps. Everybody knows that a corp like Imperfects could roll either college. All that doing so would prove is that the attacker is completely unable to stand toe-to-toe with Noir, Orion, or the other kaiju alliances.
Honestly, given that some of the kaijus have their own colleges, maybe it makes sense to go for a different planet and pack `em all in- each school gets one district as a "campus" and everything else is a battle zone. Personally, I'm not wedded to Hageldnofarbenabelfraggingumptiboop either. I gave a bunch of reasons why it made sense, but I was a bit surprised when DU and Bojo ran with it as THE planet. I figured that we should reach out to the kaijus and get their hit on things before we made any announcements about a particular location. However, the value of a college planet to the overall progress of the game is considerable. One of the reasons for The Blue Donut in EVE is the lack of good learning opportunities. If you are not in a kaiju alliance, you have no hope of learning sovereignty except by blowing a few trillion ISK learning the hard way. If you are in a kaiju alliance, you have no hope of learning sovereignty because you will never get trusted with the power and even if you were, your NAPs prohibit invading your neighbors.
Really peg us as impotent bullies is really the best you got. Sorry pop pyschology tactics aside you have any better reason why we shouldn"t. I hear ISK is a pretty powerful motivator. |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:24:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:I'm finding this whole exchange fairly amusing.
Schools: Hey everyone, we want to be here, which is basically a terrible place for launching attacks on anywhere. imps: **** YOU! WE WANT THAT NAO! Schools: It's basically useless. imps: **** YOU! WE WANT IT SPECIFICALLY SO YOU CAN"T HAVE IT! Schools: Okay then. Anyone want to help us out here? imps: **** YOU! YOU SHOULD HAVE TO EARN EVERYTHING! Schools: Like you do, with AFK'ing? imps: ARGH! WARDEC WARDEC!
it's honestly kind of sad, you imp guys are supposed to be good at this game, but all you seem to do is AFK, protostomp randoms, and now threatening to wardec schools? that's just low.
So lend Academia a hand and stand up to the evil empire Help them Heathen Bastard you are their only hope |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:28:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:I have heard enough from your tongue Bojo. Insulting a Negative Feedback director will never be tolerated. Especially when it is from a pathetic organization asking for food stamps on a video game. You come here begging for assistance, and instead you insult us.
At this time Imperfects and her allies are Declaring War on Bojo and any organization affiliated with it.
Expect an official Imperfect Statement in the next 24 hours I'm still wondering why your corp is not in the Negative-Feedback [DEVHX] alliance. Neither the DEVHX alliance description nor the description of its executor corp (IMPPP) list you as a diplomatic contact or spokesman. The fact of the matter, Mr. Regnum, is that you and your heretofore unidentified-as-a-spokesman "director" came in here looking for a fight. You came here looking for reasons to beat up colleges because you are terrified that people no longer take you seriously. Hence the board spam the last few days and all the necroing of Imp threads. Mr. Spero I respect. He does a lot of work for the community, participates in RP, and still manages to be tough. On the other hand- You, sir, are a troll and the sooner that DEVHX officially disowns you the sooner the rest of Dust will start taking them seriously again. Why? Because threatening to beat up colleges is about as awe-inspiring as picking a fight with Ralph Wiggum.
woe-is-me what will we ever do we have lost the "respect" of people on the internet, proceeding to slit my wrists and throat with a dull knife |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:31:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Really peg us as impotent bullies is really the best you got. Sorry pop pyschology tactics aside you have any better reason why we shouldn"t. I hear ISK is a pretty powerful motivator. You don't care about ISK. You just want to watch the world burn.
I want both but ill settle for one over the other if i have to.
You decide |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:33:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Bojo. Send me a mail in game and add Adanu on PSN if you want to talk defense contracts with the MSF. If you're paying, we'll defend.
They won't pay. We originally made that offer. Maybe they just don't like us and will pay you instead but they're neutral right? |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:35:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I'm finding this whole exchange fairly amusing.
Schools: Hey everyone, we want to be here, which is basically a terrible place for launching attacks on anywhere. imps: **** YOU! WE WANT THAT NAO! Schools: It's basically useless. imps: **** YOU! WE WANT IT SPECIFICALLY SO YOU CAN"T HAVE IT! Schools: Okay then. Anyone want to help us out here? imps: **** YOU! YOU SHOULD HAVE TO EARN EVERYTHING! Schools: Like you do, with AFK'ing? imps: ARGH! WARDEC WARDEC!
it's honestly kind of sad, you imp guys are supposed to be good at this game, but all you seem to do is AFK, protostomp randoms, and now threatening to wardec schools? that's just low. So lend Academia a hand and stand up to the evil empire Help them Heathen Bastard you are their only hope Not really, you'll have to actually leave the MCC to fight them I've seen one imp do that. even a proto can't stop a zerg rush on their own, and I've seen dust uni(but no bojo's yet) those guys are not slackers on the field.
You truly must be new. hhahah warms my heart blueberries think they now.
Oh as far as AFKing goes we did you all a favor remember it was all you carebears that complained you couldn't get a fighting chance against named corps and closed beta vets.
Geez given a noobiebear an inch and they try to take a mile |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:56:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Really peg us as impotent bullies is really the best you got. Sorry pop pyschology tactics aside you have any better reason why we shouldn"t. I hear ISK is a pretty powerful motivator. You don't care about ISK. You just want to watch the world burn. I want both but ill settle for one over the other if i have to. You decide I'll give you nothing and light you on fire . Deal?
Sure im was forged and tested by the hottest flames known in all the known worlds. I am death incarnate such is the way of the IMPS, your puny yellow-colored flames are like air conditioning to me. I will use the heat to melt your suit and feast on the charred carcass you leave behind. |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:57:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Bojo. Send me a mail in game and add Adanu on PSN if you want to talk defense contracts with the MSF. If you're paying, we'll defend. They won't pay. We originally made that offer. Maybe they just don't like us and will pay you instead but they're neutral right? Neutral doesn't mean they have to like you.
But we're harmless havent you heard? |
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Posted - 2013.04.18 05:35:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:You're forgetting the part where that defense is double sided, basically preventing them from attacking anything without developing specifically towards it, and last I heard, it was 12 districts with them wanting a total of 6 between the schools on that planet, as a maximum.
They will pay us ISK for them or they will get none. If this offends you, well you are welcome to try and stop it |
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