+1
And what about side rolls to strife quickly into crounch? To take cover and dodge incoming fire quickly? With tumbling screen effect (to prevent overuse ). No need to deplete stamina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNNUvh-LlHc

EDIT:
I am already dizzy when i imagine that tumbling pov

+1

YES to vaulting and mantling

NO to wall jumps, slides, double jumps, rocket jumps, and other Unreal Tourney shennanigans.

Except for the slide part, I do like the ideas.

At least for the Rail Leap.

I think the slide is a bad idea because, if It's not limited, people will slide all the time like Bunny hopping.
I still think mercs should not be able to jump when tey run out of stamina, as they should not be able to slide.

If implemented, I'd say that it would be awesome, as long as its balanced and restricted by stamina.
And damn, I really don't wanna see heavies sliding.... They can't even run fast, how would they be able to slide at all.

tl;dr
+1 if balanced and restricted by stamina.

Llan Heindell.

+1 yes please.

Maybe the move would totally deplete your stamina. A final get out of dodge move.

Has anyone played a game where a team member on a low ledge/roof/battlement can pull up another member that is lower down, like a co op move where you dont need a ladder to get up to another level? That would be cool.

This also brings to mind a possible piece of equipment that could be handy. A grappling hook from the future. One that some snipers would love/loath.

While Im on a roll spewing forth crappy ideas, how about a heavy suite that could initiate a sonic the hedgehog roll to barrel through people? jokes, jokes.

All your ideas sounds serious to me Even striking merc pins with heavy bowling

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Or, how about heavies using rolling scouts as bowling balls?

All your ideas sounds serious to me Even striking merc pins with heavy bowling

LOL, first a heavy would need to catch up a scout sprinting away
Enough trolling around, OK?

I hated the BF3 vaulting over fences...it has always annoyed me. More animations gets you killed when trying to execute a simple jump and get away.

very true
atm tho dust has this but in another way....u get stuck on the map trying to make a simple jump lol

LOL, first a heavy would need to catch up a scout sprinting away
Enough trolling around, OK?

Okay then. Honestly, I'm in favor of this. I also have an idea for rolling/diving. To dive to the side/roll forwards or backwards, hold the stick in the appropriate direction and double-tap the jump button.

I hated the BF3 vaulting over fences...it has always annoyed me. More animations gets you killed when trying to execute a simple jump and get away.

Good ideas but I would rather they focus on getting the current movement situated correctly.

- Add a sensitivity curve for the DS3. Either stick movement or stick speed determine how fast you turn. This would allow for more fluid gameplay

- Allow for more sensitivity adjustment for ADS. Right now its painful to make adjustments.

- Fix the jump for different classes as its bugged. I can leap over the railing by B on Manus Peak (the tall building version) with my assault but not my scout. Something is wrong there.

- No more killer pebbles on easy slopes.

- No more hills with hands.

This can give the Scout a new lease on life without simply 'making them faster' as they would attain more mobile ways to get around. Possibly bordering on Parkour. (Though honestly, that would be extreme.)

Oh, yes! I would love parkour scout! That would be amazing! CCP, make scouts parkour!

If you think I'm joking, I'm not. I would love scouts to be able to climb faster, climb up short walls if they have a running start, vault over walls, make super leaps of awesomeness, grab onto ladders mid-jump, skid off of walls to avoid fall damage, jump off of buildings and land on enemies to avoid fall damage while incapacitating and damaging the enemy, sliding through tight places and into cover, being a troll in general and other shenanigans. That alone would make me adore the scout dropsuit without it being overpowered in combat. Honestly, I think the scout dropsuit should be able to parkour. I mean, why not? That would be epic. Even more epic if they could air assassinate enemies while holding nova knives.

In all fairness, there isn't a reason to give a genetically and cybernetic enhanced super Scout all the things you've said above. However, doing so would create an extremely agile, difficult to predict opponent for anything to shoot. To compensate, you'd have to give the Assault, Logistics, and Heavy Suits something to compensate heavily.

Not saying it wouldn't be possible, but it may be something to look at in the far future of DUST.

In all fairness, there isn't a reason to give a genetically and cybernetic enhanced super Scout all the things you've said above. However, doing so would create an extremely agile, difficult to predict opponent for anything to shoot. To compensate, you'd have to give the Assault, Logistics, and Heavy Suits something to compensate heavily.

Not saying it wouldn't be possible, but it may be something to look at in the far future of DUST.

I posted this idea in this thread a few days ago https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=661032#post661032, but thought I better create a new forum topic on it so as to shine a light on it better.

More movement options is basically giving us animations and mechanics to increase the flow of the game and make it feel as though we are actually immersed in the game.

Slide - As demonstrated in the 'A Future Vision' Video. A rapid slide into a Crouch position. Could be accomplished by hitting Crouch while sprinting.

Rail Leap (Vaulting) - Battlefield 3 is one game I know that does this fairly well, and I'm sure there are others. By jumping at a low ledge or fence, or running at a very low ledge, your character should grab said ledge with his hands and pull himself over. One handed for very low ledges, two hands for higher ledges with a pulling-self up animation.

Ledge Grab - For when you JUST miss that jump. Holding down Jump as you fly through the air should cause your character to reach out and grab a nearby ledge in the direction you're facing. Then pull yourself up onto said ledge.

EDIT:

Possible other movement options.

Ladder Slide - Sliding down ladders, giving us an option to descend that remains a bit more stealthy than leaping and engaging out inertial dampeners. (On that note, where are my hands when I'm climbing ladders anyway?)

Controlled Fall - Using your momentum and possibly some dropsuit mechanic to control your free-fall slightly. This cold take effect before you engage your inertial dampeners.


Further clarification on the above movements.

Slide would be tied to sprint speed. So Scouts could potentially slide a much longer distance than a Heavy, it would also cost stamina to stop overuse.

Ledge Grab could be used to reach a ledge, or platform, within your jumping height. Scouts would generally have a better chance of finding these spots, as they can jump higher, and further.

This can give the Scout a new lease on life without simply 'making them faster' as they would attain more mobile ways to get around. Possibly bordering on Parkour. (Though honestly, that would be extreme.)

Only bothered with the sliding and ledge grab...
Sliding will become a cheap pain in the ass, do it all the time, thingy.... No thanks
Ledge Grab i fear could happen in situations people actually wanted to fall down.

Rest, especially rail leap sounds good.

Ledge Grab - For when you JUST miss that jump. Holding down Jump as you fly through the air should cause your character to reach out and grab a nearby ledge in the direction you're facing. Then pull yourself up onto said ledge.

I posted this idea in this thread a few days ago https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=661032#post661032, but thought I better create a new forum topic on it so as to shine a light on it better.

More movement options is basically giving us animations and mechanics to increase the flow of the game and make it feel as though we are actually immersed in the game.

Slide - As demonstrated in the 'A Future Vision' Video. A rapid slide into a Crouch position. Could be accomplished by hitting Crouch while sprinting.

Rail Leap (Vaulting) - Battlefield 3 is one game I know that does this fairly well, and I'm sure there are others. By jumping at a low ledge or fence, or running at a very low ledge, your character should grab said ledge with his hands and pull himself over. One handed for very low ledges, two hands for higher ledges with a pulling-self up animation.

Ledge Grab - For when you JUST miss that jump. Holding down Jump as you fly through the air should cause your character to reach out and grab a nearby ledge in the direction you're facing. Then pull yourself up onto said ledge.

EDIT:

Possible other movement options.

Ladder Slide - Sliding down ladders, giving us an option to descend that remains a bit more stealthy than leaping and engaging out inertial dampeners. (On that note, where are my hands when I'm climbing ladders anyway?)

Controlled Fall - Using your momentum and possibly some dropsuit mechanic to control your free-fall slightly. This cold take effect before you engage your inertial dampeners.


Further clarification on the above movements.

Slide would be tied to sprint speed. So Scouts could potentially slide a much longer distance than a Heavy, it would also cost stamina to stop overuse.

Ledge Grab could be used to reach a ledge, or platform, within your jumping height. Scouts would generally have a better chance of finding these spots, as they can jump higher, and further.

This can give the Scout a new lease on life without simply 'making them faster' as they would attain more mobile ways to get around. Possibly bordering on Parkour. (Though honestly, that would be extreme.)

heaviEs might need a dive mechanic instead

I second the 'another' bump!

More movement options, seriously getting sick of the 'wooden doll' syndrome we all suffer.

OP can you add to your list ;

Grabbing ladders with out pressing a button please

OP can you add to your list ;

Grabbing ladders with out pressing a button please

I posted this idea in this thread a few days ago https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=661032#post661032, but thought I better create a new forum topic on it so as to shine a light on it better.

More movement options is basically giving us animations and mechanics to increase the flow of the game and make it feel as though we are actually immersed in the game.

Slide - As demonstrated in the 'A Future Vision' Video. A rapid slide into a Crouch position. Could be accomplished by hitting Crouch while sprinting.

Rail Leap (Vaulting) - Battlefield 3 is one game I know that does this fairly well, and I'm sure there are others. By jumping at a low ledge or fence, or running at a very low ledge, your character should grab said ledge with his hands and pull himself over. One handed for very low ledges, two hands for higher ledges with a pulling-self up animation.

Ledge Grab - For when you JUST miss that jump. Holding down Jump as you fly through the air should cause your character to reach out and grab a nearby ledge in the direction you're facing. Then pull yourself up onto said ledge.

EDIT:

Possible other movement options.

Ladder Slide - Sliding down ladders, giving us an option to descend that remains a bit more stealthy than leaping and engaging out inertial dampeners. (On that note, where are my hands when I'm climbing ladders anyway?)

Controlled Fall - Using your momentum and possibly some dropsuit mechanic to control your free-fall slightly. This cold take effect before you engage your inertial dampeners.


Further clarification on the above movements.

Slide would be tied to sprint speed. So Scouts could potentially slide a much longer distance than a Heavy, it would also cost stamina to stop overuse.

Ledge Grab could be used to reach a ledge, or platform, within your jumping height. Scouts would generally have a better chance of finding these spots, as they can jump higher, and further.

This can give the Scout a new lease on life without simply 'making them faster' as they would attain more mobile ways to get around. Possibly bordering on Parkour. (Though honestly, that would be extreme.)

Added Idea:

Vehicular Mounting and Dismounting

Getting out of vehicles, or getting in can be a disorienting experience for many people. You are suddenly displaced, from a seat in-vehicle position, to a standing, out of vehicle position. Sometimes you end up facing a different direction than you would expect.

An animation for getting out of (and by extension into) a vehicle would give you a frame of reference to guide yourself in that split second (or second or two) that it can take to orient yourself.

PonyClause Rex contributes an Automated Ladder Climb.

It was idea I had toyed with, but one he brought forward at this point.

Removing the requirement to press a button to climb or grab onto a ladder, making it automatic.

+1 to all but the last - making it automatic to grab ladders is a bad idea - you don't want to accidently grab one in a firefight causing you to die.

man we really dont need more fancy animations right now

I posted this idea in this thread a few days ago https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=661032#post661032, but thought I better create a new forum topic on it so as to shine a light on it better.

More movement options is basically giving us animations and mechanics to increase the flow of the game and make it feel as though we are actually immersed in the game.

Slide - As demonstrated in the 'A Future Vision' Video. A rapid slide into a Crouch position. Could be accomplished by hitting Crouch while sprinting.

Rail Leap (Vaulting) - Battlefield 3 is one game I know that does this fairly well, and I'm sure there are others. By jumping at a low ledge or fence, or running at a very low ledge, your character should grab said ledge with his hands and pull himself over. One handed for very low ledges, two hands for higher ledges with a pulling-self up animation.

Ledge Grab - For when you JUST miss that jump. Holding down Jump as you fly through the air should cause your character to reach out and grab a nearby ledge in the direction you're facing. Then pull yourself up onto said ledge.

EDIT:

Possible other movement options.

Ladder Slide - Sliding down ladders, giving us an option to descend that remains a bit more stealthy than leaping and engaging out inertial dampeners. (On that note, where are my hands when I'm climbing ladders anyway?)

Controlled Fall - Using your momentum and possibly some dropsuit mechanic to control your free-fall slightly. This cold take effect before you engage your inertial dampeners.


Further clarification on the above movements.

Slide would be tied to sprint speed. So Scouts could potentially slide a much longer distance than a Heavy, it would also cost stamina to stop overuse.

Ledge Grab could be used to reach a ledge, or platform, within your jumping height. Scouts would generally have a better chance of finding these spots, as they can jump higher, and further.

This can give the Scout a new lease on life without simply 'making them faster' as they would attain more mobile ways to get around. Possibly bordering on Parkour. (Though honestly, that would be extreme.)

Added Idea:

Vehicular Mounting and Dismounting

Getting out of vehicles, or getting in can be a disorienting experience for many people. You are suddenly displaced, from a seat in-vehicle position, to a standing, out of vehicle position. Sometimes you end up facing a different direction than you would expect.

An animation for getting out of (and by extension into) a vehicle would give you a frame of reference to guide yourself in that split second (or second or two) that it can take to orient yourself.

PonyClause Rex contributes an Automated Ladder Climb.

It was idea I had toyed with, but one he brought forward at this point.

Removing the requirement to press a button to climb or grab onto a ladder, making it automatic.

The slide I suggest would only be a short slide, that ends up in a crouch.. not a dolphin dive into prone.

See CCPs 'Future Vision Trailer' for clarification.

Wall jumps, not entirely sure what you define as a wall jump. Jumping off a wall backwards? No. Jumping up to grab a ledge then pull yourself up... yes.

Double Jumps, Rocket Jumps, hell no. I want movement to be in the realm of 'realistic'.

Check the weekly updates. Theyve said they will be doing more movement options soon.

love this idea, hope ccp sees it +1