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The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 331	Posted - 2013.04.01 14:45:00 - [1] - Quote I posted this idea in this thread a few days ago https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=661032#post661032, but thought I better create a new forum topic on it so as to shine a light on it better. More movement options is basically giving us animations and mechanics to increase the flow of the game and make it feel as though we are actually immersed in the game. Slide - As demonstrated in the 'A Future Vision' Video. A rapid slide into a Crouch position. Could be accomplished by hitting Crouch while sprinting. Rail Leap - Battlefield 3 is one game I know that does this fairly well, and I'm sure there are others. By jumping at a low ledge or fence, or running at a very low ledge, your character should grab said ledge with his hands and pull himself over. One handed for very low ledges, two hands for higher ledges with a pulling-self up animation. Ledge Grab - For when you JUST miss that jump. Holding down Jump as you fly through the air should cause your character to reach out and grab a nearby ledge in the direction you're facing. Then pull yourself up onto said ledge.
Alcare Xavier Golden DUST University Ivy League 125	Posted - 2013.04.01 15:00:00 - [2] - Quote +1 to this!
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 115	Posted - 2013.04.01 19:44:00 - [3] - Quote yep! moar!
Rachoi HavoK Core 40	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:32:00 - [4] - Quote works well, cause i know Heavies need a little mobility assistance... and even as an assault those long jumps are a pitch to clear... a way to save ass would be nice over those long building drops
Wrath Red-Feather Foxhound Corporation 4	Posted - 2013.04.01 21:28:00 - [5] - Quote Good idea! I like the run and grab a whole lot, I think the ability to go prone would be a nice touch too. I don't feel much like a sniper just taken a knee!
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.04.01 21:50:00 - [6] - Quote How about Killzone 3 cover system? Or something close?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3305	Posted - 2013.04.01 21:54:00 - [7] - Quote +1 I want
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 442	Posted - 2013.04.02 11:33:00 - [8] - Quote The rail leap should be slower then just leaping over. This would allow scouts to keep a moment adv, but let heavies move around more. Scout clears barrier at full speed without slowing down with leap, heavy moves to barrier and triggers short animation to get over the barrier. This shouldn't be based on class, but on jump height so heavy can hope over vary low object and a scout can rail leap over a fairly tall object to high to jump over.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 41	Posted - 2013.04.02 11:50:00 - [9] - Quote +1 Bravo, encore
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2343	Posted - 2013.04.02 12:57:00 - [10] - Quote So far, no multiplayer FPS has done this as smoothly as Mirror's Edge. The closest has been Brink. Syndicate and BF3 have done similar, to a certain degree, but neither has come as close as Brink, and even Brink falls well short of what was hoped for. Mirror's Edge and Brink also win points for the fact that they're both UE3 games. They were built on the same engine as DUST, so there's precedent for the game engine handling such controls fluidly and (in Brink's case) without interrupting gunplay. Brink did a lot of things wrong, but this isn't one of them. It might be difficult to make something like this work in DUST, but it would be awesome if they could make it happen.
Cat Merc Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 369	Posted - 2013.04.02 12:58:00 - [11] - Quote I would love to move like a cat, instead of like a dog. +1
Robert JD Niewiadomski Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2013.04.02 14:24:00 - [12] - Quote +1 And what about side rolls to strife quickly into crounch? To take cover and dodge incoming fire quickly? With tumbling screen effect (to prevent overuse ). No need to deplete stamina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNNUvh-LlHc EDIT: I am already dizzy when i imagine that tumbling pov
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 343	Posted - 2013.04.02 15:35:00 - [13] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: +1 And what about side rolls to strife quickly into crounch? To take cover and dodge incoming fire quickly? With tumbling screen effect (to prevent overuse ). No need to deplete stamina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNNUvh-LlHc EDIT: I am already dizzy when i imagine that tumbling pov I avoided referencing side rolls and dives. They would be harder to code in in my opinion, whereas just the three basic options would serve as a starting point. Keep the posts going guys, the more support we get going for this, the better chance we have on being heard! Forget prone... it's immobile. More movement options!
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 80	Posted - 2013.04.03 06:18:00 - [14] - Quote Finally, some sensible movement ideas. Many have suggested sliding like Crysis which I don't quite agree with, and Brink too as the slide is too long. I am not against a short slide into cover as I have performed this myself when paintballing so it's within real world possibilities (something I feel necessary for any sliding mechanic). Any kind of rolling other than forwards is not something I agree with as it just seems a little difficult to perform in all that armour. Perhaps scout restriction if it's needed. Diving sideways is something I could be persuaded to get behind though. Vaulting: THIS, so hard. I am sick of missing a jump over a rail to escape gunfire by an inch (to then be killed). I wear armour plates on my assault suit and suspect this is the reason, though this should equate to a slower vault speed should vaulting be put into Dust.
Kamiya Musume Suffer Inc. 90	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:00:00 - [15] - Quote +1 YES to vaulting and mantling NO to wall jumps, slides, double jumps, rocket jumps, and other Unreal Tourney shennanigans.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 347	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:01:00 - [16] - Quote Kamiya Musume wrote: +1 YES to vaulting and mantling NO to wall jumps, slides, double jumps, rocket jumps, and other Unreal Tourney shennanigans. The slide I suggest would only be a short slide, that ends up in a crouch.. not a dolphin dive into prone. See CCPs 'Future Vision Trailer' for clarification. Wall jumps, not entirely sure what you define as a wall jump. Jumping off a wall backwards? No. Jumping up to grab a ledge then pull yourself up... yes. Double Jumps, Rocket Jumps, hell no. I want movement to be in the realm of 'realistic'.
Galrick M'kron Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 28	Posted - 2013.04.03 16:40:00 - [17] - Quote I'm also for dives to the side and forward/backward rolls. They should consume stamina though.
J'Hiera Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.04.03 19:10:00 - [18] - Quote I'd be happy if I could slide into crouch position, and cover behind a wall, crate etc, and look up and fire without standing up properly. Ie. mass Effect.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 348	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:09:00 - [19] - Quote I'd avoid a true cover system. It might be a neat graphical feature, but would make fights drag out. Plus, cover is immobile... let's get more movement options in the game before we worry about sitting still.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 99	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:11:00 - [20] - Quote make everything like crysis.
Llan Heindell One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 9	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:19:00 - [21] - Quote Except for the slide part, I do like the ideas. At least for the Rail Leap. I think the slide is a bad idea because, if It's not limited, people will slide all the time like Bunny hopping. I still think mercs should not be able to jump when tey run out of stamina, as they should not be able to slide. If implemented, I'd say that it would be awesome, as long as its balanced and restricted by stamina. And damn, I really don't wanna see heavies sliding.... They can't even run fast, how would they be able to slide at all. tl;dr +1 if balanced and restricted by stamina. Llan Heindell.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 349	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:26:00 - [22] - Quote Llan Heindell wrote: Except for the slide part, I do like the ideas. At least for the Rail Leap. I think the slide is a bad idea because, if It's not limited, people will slide all the time like Bunny hopping. I still think mercs should not be able to jump when tey run out of stamina, as they should not be able to slide. If implemented, I'd say that it would be awesome, as long as its balanced and restricted by stamina. And damn, I really don't wanna see heavies sliding.... They can't even run fast, how would they be able to slide at all. tl;dr +1 if balanced and restricted by stamina. Llan Heindell. I definitely agree on the stamina restriction on sliding.. and the 'slide' distance would be restricted by the speed you sprint at. So a Scout would 'slide' better than a heavy, who'd more likely flop onto their butt and barely move. The other movement options, however, shouldn't be stamina dependant.
Krakata 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:18:00 - [23] - Quote +1 yes please. Maybe the move would totally deplete your stamina. A final get out of dodge move. Has anyone played a game where a team member on a low ledge/roof/battlement can pull up another member that is lower down, like a co op move where you dont need a ladder to get up to another level? That would be cool. This also brings to mind a possible piece of equipment that could be handy. A grappling hook from the future. One that some snipers would love/loath. While Im on a roll spewing forth crappy ideas, how about a heavy suite that could initiate a sonic the hedgehog roll to barrel through people? jokes, jokes.
Robert JD Niewiadomski Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:41:00 - [24] - Quote Krakata wrote: +1 yes please. Maybe the move would totally deplete your stamina. A final get out of dodge move. Has anyone played a game where a team member on a low ledge/roof/battlement can pull up another member that is lower down, like a co op move where you dont need a ladder to get up to another level? That would be cool. This also brings to mind a possible piece of equipment that could be handy. A grappling hook from the future. One that some snipers would love/loath. While Im on a roll spewing forth crappy ideas, how about a heavy suite that could initiate a sonic the hedgehog roll to barrel through people? jokes, jokes. All your ideas sounds serious to me Even striking merc pins with heavy bowling
Galrick M'kron Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 30	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:10:00 - [25] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Krakata wrote: +1 yes please. Maybe the move would totally deplete your stamina. A final get out of dodge move. Has anyone played a game where a team member on a low ledge/roof/battlement can pull up another member that is lower down, like a co op move where you dont need a ladder to get up to another level? That would be cool. This also brings to mind a possible piece of equipment that could be handy. A grappling hook from the future. One that some snipers would love/loath. While Im on a roll spewing forth crappy ideas, how about a heavy suite that could initiate a sonic the hedgehog roll to barrel through people? jokes, jokes. All your ideas sounds serious to me Even striking merc pins with heavy bowling Or, how about heavies using rolling scouts as bowling balls?
Robert JD Niewiadomski Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:14:00 - [26] - Quote Galrick M'kron wrote: (...) Or, how about heavies using rolling scouts as bowling balls? LOL, first a heavy would need to catch up a scout sprinting away Enough trolling around, OK?
Krakata 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 2	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:57:00 - [27] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: All your ideas sounds serious to me Even striking merc pins with heavy bowling A new heavy suite called the strike suite might do.
Krakata 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 2	Posted - 2013.04.05 10:03:00 - [28] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Galrick M'kron wrote: (...) Or, how about heavies using rolling scouts as bowling balls? LOL, first a heavy would need to catch up a scout sprinting away Enough trolling around, OK? Who not likes bowling? This is a great idea >.> . Ping pong is also great. Much better than darts. Plus isnt the dust team in Hong Kong?
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 62	Posted - 2013.04.05 10:30:00 - [29] - Quote +1
tander09 RISE OF THE EMPIRE 0	Posted - 2013.04.05 10:34:00 - [30] - Quote aww yea /sign (or +1 u call it)

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