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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.23 13:26:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Oh, and we are officially commercially released. That's not semantics, that's a fact. I've asked this of several people before (and I think you may have been one of them. Still waiting on an answer. Source?
"To clarify when DUST 514 joined EVE on TQ on January 10th and subsequently opened to the public on Jan 22nd this became our commercial launch. With this in mind we are now unable to grant AUR or character resets moving forward." - CCP Customer Relations |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
574
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Posted - 2013.03.23 18:49:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:The stress test already happened. . Yes, because things go oh so smoothly whenever we have 32 vs 32 events? I lagged like crazy in about 5 matches on tuesday and just flat out got kicked from 3 of them because the system was tripping out, I also know I'm not the only person it happened to. So yeah, we still need some more testing before we ever get past 16 vs 16. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
180
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Posted - 2013.03.23 18:55:00 -
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Richard Sebire wrote:The idle mechanic and the distance traveled mechanic will put an end to this one. When implemented, if you do not engage or get engaged with an enemy in a set time, you will get booted with 0 isk and 0 sp..
I'm sorry but what?
You'd have to move around on the map or fight someone to not get kicked? That's BS Level 5 with BS Profficiency Level 1.
There are plenty and I mean PLENTY of different things that would cause players to get kicked because they don't adhere to this crap.
Sniping- Technically you're not engaging the enemy Logistics- Your main job is to support. Mapping- You're active but you're feeding your team info by looking at the Tactnet Map. Hiding- Nuff said And then some.
I'm pretty sure those rules aren't official and if they were these forums would be set-a-blaze with players crying tears of flames. Me included. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
97
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:06:00 -
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I think he means if you don't get war points in a set amount of time you get kicked. |
EKH0 0ne
RestlessSpirits
1
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:16:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Kitten Commander wrote:My only fail is continuing to care what you opinion is considering you arent even absorbing what everyone is telling you about why they AFK.
You can QQ all you want but Im done responding ... peace out girlscout I understand the reason. Afkers are selfish dbags who care only about themselves and their stats, and look down on other players to the point they think it's ok to screw the team over in order to pad their sp. Did I miss something?
You anti-AFK'ers are the ones who wants to change the rules and limit how others play the game so you can have a better experience? Now who's being selfish? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
574
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:19:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote: You anti-AFK'ers are the ones who wants to change the rules and limit how others play the game so you can have a better experience? Now who's being selfish?
lol, you must really hate the redline. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2106
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:23:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Richard Sebire wrote:The idle mechanic and the distance traveled mechanic will put an end to this one. When implemented, if you do not engage or get engaged with an enemy in a set time, you will get booted with 0 isk and 0 sp.. I'm sorry but what? You'd have to move around on the map or fight someone to not get kicked? That's BS Level 5 with BS Profficiency Level 1. There are plenty and I mean PLENTY of different things that would cause players to get kicked because they don't adhere to this crap. Sniping- Technically you're not engaging the enemy Logistics- Your main job is to support. Mapping- You're active but you're feeding your team info by looking at the Tactnet Map. Hiding- Nuff said And then some. I'm pretty sure those rules aren't official and if they were these forums would be set-a-blaze with players crying tears of flames. Me included. Sniping: You're moving from/to a location to snipe, marking enemies with scope, and firing at (engaging) enemies. Logistics: If you're not moving as a Logi, then you're probably doing something wrong. Not necessarily, but even so, you'll have to be actively performing actions to get WPs, even though you may be technically engaging with teammates rather than enemies. Mapping: Unless you're squad leader, and therefore using the map to set and alter squad orders, there's no reason to be doing this for a significant amount of time. Hiding: If you're hiding in a position for long enough, and not moving at all, even slightly, then you're not active and not productive at all and shouldn't be considered as such.
As long as there's a reasonable time limit on the idle system, and earning WPs actively (Repair Tool, Assists, Squad Commission) consistently, then you should be fine. If you aren't fine, I'll be complaining too. |
EKH0 0ne
RestlessSpirits
1
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:30:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote: You anti-AFK'ers are the ones who wants to change the rules and limit how others play the game so you can have a better experience? Now who's being selfish?
lol, you must really hate the redline.
??? |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
103
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:19:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Kitten Commander wrote:My only fail is continuing to care what you opinion is considering you arent even absorbing what everyone is telling you about why they AFK.
You can QQ all you want but Im done responding ... peace out girlscout I understand the reason. Afkers are selfish dbags who care only about themselves and their stats, and look down on other players to the point they think it's ok to screw the team over in order to pad their sp. Did I miss something? You anti-AFK'ers are the ones who wants to change the rules and limit how others play the game so you can have a better experience? Now who's being selfish?
Yeah, a better experience as a team. This is a team game. How does that escape you? It's not selfish, it's a reasonable expectation. |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:30:00 -
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lulz, this is still going on? CCP will never put a kick method based on warpoints.. wanna know why? because every fresh blueberry that doesnt know how to play the game yet will be kicked from the game and give up.
Wanna make the game interesting and keep people from AFKing or redline sniping? Then CCP can choose from multiple good ideas that are already on this forum
- Time limit for how long you can be behind the redline (couple minutes at least) - No WP for actions taken behind the redline - Move the redline back
Honestly, I think that they need to give a larger bonus for hacking a letter and WP for de-hacking. There should also be a bonus for being within a certain radius of the hacked letter as that will give blueberries more incentive to be in the thick of things. CCP needs to stop catering to the lowest common denominator. If they want noobs to have a chance, then they need to make a game mode or area that can only be accessed if you are below a certain amount of SP.
If you want something to change then come up with a solution instead of whining or nobody is going to take your seriously. |
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Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
103
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:49:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:lulz, this is still going on? CCP will never put a kick method based on warpoints.. wanna know why? because every fresh blueberry that doesnt know how to play the game yet will be kicked from the game and give up.
Wanna make the game interesting and keep people from AFKing or redline sniping? Then CCP can choose from multiple good ideas that are already on this forum
- Time limit for how long you can be behind the redline (couple minutes at least) - No WP for actions taken behind the redline - Move the redline back
Honestly, I think that they need to give a larger bonus for hacking a letter and WP for de-hacking. There should also be a bonus for being within a certain radius of the hacked letter as that will give blueberries more incentive to be in the thick of things. CCP needs to stop catering to the lowest common denominator. If they want noobs to have a chance, then they need to make a game mode or area that can only be accessed if you are below a certain amount of SP.
If you want something to change then come up with a solution instead of whining or nobody is going to take your seriously.
Solutions . . . Depending on the suit, if you sit in the MCC, a heavy will shrink into a skinny midget and must enter the next match as a midget. A logi would get a flashing message on the screen that says, "your teamwork sucks". It will get brighter and brighter until he goes blind and he must enter the next match without sight. An assault player will have to shove a Gek up his butt and enter the next match with it protruding from his butt. And a sniper will be directed away from dust to a different game altogether: duck hunt. Take that seriously. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
386
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:50:00 -
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I swear some of the ideas on this subject are just so idiotic. Seriously would it be smart to spend time coding an entire idle system with all the information that has to be interpreted to determine if that person is active or inactive instead of just changing the SP system such that it is not worth AFKing for SP? If you get 1 SP per second and 5 SP per WP virtually noone will be AFKing for SP. It would take so long to get anywhere but if you played the game you would max out in about 20 games easy. |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Expert Intervention Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:56:00 -
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James TrendalI wrote:When blueberries steal my tank and cost me over 2 million a game they have to suffer me hogging up a slot while i AFK farm isk to make that tank back. Also if the blueberries are stupid enough to spawn on my drop uplinks then hey i will take those free SP's to.
Thanks for the tank James!! Keep em coming!! |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
267
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:01:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:I see these dudes on the score sheet before the match and think cool, same side as the imperfects, but they are gun fighting in MCC the whole game. They go 0-0 to what, farm sp/isk.
Well thanks a ton, because somebody willing to fight could have taken your spots. Inconsiderate.
it's called having burned out on pub matches |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
104
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:16:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I see these dudes on the score sheet before the match and think cool, same side as the imperfects, but they are gun fighting in MCC the whole game. They go 0-0 to what, farm sp/isk.
Well thanks a ton, because somebody willing to fight could have taken your spots. Inconsiderate. it's called having burned out on pub matches
when I'm burned out, I don't turn the game on. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
578
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:28:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote: You anti-AFK'ers are the ones who wants to change the rules and limit how others play the game so you can have a better experience? Now who's being selfish?
lol, you must really hate the redline. ??? Clearly it limits your ability to run in there and kill the other team. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
578
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:29:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I see these dudes on the score sheet before the match and think cool, same side as the imperfects, but they are gun fighting in MCC the whole game. They go 0-0 to what, farm sp/isk.
Well thanks a ton, because somebody willing to fight could have taken your spots. Inconsiderate. it's called having burned out on pub matches when I'm burned out, I don't turn the game on. I play Tekken, or Dark Souls, though I've been burned out from those too for a while now. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
386
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:30:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I see these dudes on the score sheet before the match and think cool, same side as the imperfects, but they are gun fighting in MCC the whole game. They go 0-0 to what, farm sp/isk.
Well thanks a ton, because somebody willing to fight could have taken your spots. Inconsiderate. it's called having burned out on pub matches when I'm burned out, I don't turn the game on.
Then you will lose out on active SP.
Once I have everything upgraded for my specialty I will not concern myself so much with maxing out my active SP every week. |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Expert Intervention Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:32:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I see these dudes on the score sheet before the match and think cool, same side as the imperfects, but they are gun fighting in MCC the whole game. They go 0-0 to what, farm sp/isk.
Well thanks a ton, because somebody willing to fight could have taken your spots. Inconsiderate. it's called having burned out on pub matches when I'm burned out, I don't turn the game on.
Whatever floats your boat man, when I'm burned out I play skirmish while drinking a pint at the pub next door |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
578
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:35:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:
Then you will lose out on active SP.
I'm sorry to tell you that no matter how much you AFK, there will always be no-lifers with more SP than you. But hey, as long as you stay relevant in a video game, who cares if you're having fun or not right?
I wish CCP would just switch over to the roll over system already. |
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semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
386
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:46:00 -
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Yes my life revolves around being relevant in this video game...............
I dont care about no lifers or people with boosters they all have more SP than I do. |
Grace ling Pearl
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:23:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:I have a better question, why is it always the players who are like 1-4 or worse who are the ones that try to suicide the AFKers? You cannot feel entitled to me playing when your individual performance is so detrimental to the team. Maybe if those people AFKed I would actually put some effort in on skirmish anymore.
Who the hell are you. I guess we can't all be perfect like you. I've been playing for a little over a month and I go 0-6 alot. That's because I try to help take over game space, and I don't have the skills or equipment to compete. But I try and don't just stand in one place. The only way to learn is to keep trying, than maybe we can all be as good as you!!! |
Grace ling Pearl
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:39:00 -
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Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:WTH do people get so worked up when I am AFK?
PROTIP: get over it. I'm tired of laughing at the responses
The actions of people who misplay a game as intended serves only as a mirror of how they play their own lives!
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Corn In TheSkidmark
Expert Intervention Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:49:00 -
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Grace ling Pearl wrote:Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:WTH do people get so worked up when I am AFK?
PROTIP: get over it. I'm tired of laughing at the responses The actions of people who misplay a game as intended serves only as a mirror of how they play their own lives!
He who first smelt it, dealt it. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
580
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Posted - 2013.03.23 23:01:00 -
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Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Grace ling Pearl wrote:Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:WTH do people get so worked up when I am AFK?
PROTIP: get over it. I'm tired of laughing at the responses The actions of people who misplay a game as intended serves only as a mirror of how they play their own lives!
He who first smelt it, dealt it. ~Thomas Jefferson Some deep quote Drake never said. ~Drake |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
79
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Posted - 2013.03.23 23:51:00 -
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Grace ling Pearl wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:I have a better question, why is it always the players who are like 1-4 or worse who are the ones that try to suicide the AFKers? You cannot feel entitled to me playing when your individual performance is so detrimental to the team. Maybe if those people AFKed I would actually put some effort in on skirmish anymore. Who the hell are you. I guess we can't all be perfect like you. I've been playing for a little over a month and I go 0-6 alot. That's because I try to help take over game space, and I don't have the skills or equipment to compete. But I try and don't just stand in one place. The only way to learn is to keep trying, than maybe we can all be as good as you!!!
How in the world do you try to "take over game space?" I can get on my alt with less than 1 mil SP, none of it in assault/ARs, and still manage to go 10/2 with the starter suits so dont even try to use SP as an excuse. Using militia against advanced and higher gear is tough, but its not impossible. This game is more about skill than people like to admit. There is definately a period of time where you have to get used to Dust regardless of skill, but if youre still going 0-6 a lot after a month Im sorry to tell you, but you just arent very good at this game. You likely just need to improve your tactics and how you try to "take over game space," but me playing instead of AFKing is not going to help you do that. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
267
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Posted - 2013.03.24 00:18:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I see these dudes on the score sheet before the match and think cool, same side as the imperfects, but they are gun fighting in MCC the whole game. They go 0-0 to what, farm sp/isk.
Well thanks a ton, because somebody willing to fight could have taken your spots. Inconsiderate. it's called having burned out on pub matches when I'm burned out, I don't turn the game on.
not getting left in the dust
(pun intended) |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2107
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Posted - 2013.03.24 00:48:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:There is definately a period of time where you have to get used to Dust regardless of skill, but if youre still going 0-6 a lot after a month Im sorry to tell you, but you just arent very good at this game. You likely just need to improve your tactics and how you try to "take over game space," but me playing instead of AFKing is not going to help you do that. ...unless you're running dedicated Logi.
In Ambush, if I can die 6 times, but save 20 clones, I consider that going positive in spite of 0 kills.
In Skirmish, if I can keep a Heavy alive through sustained fire from multiple enemies, and he can hold half the enemy team down while we're hacking A, my death to a Sniper soon after wasn't a game-changer. |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
79
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Posted - 2013.03.24 02:20:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:There is definately a period of time where you have to get used to Dust regardless of skill, but if youre still going 0-6 a lot after a month Im sorry to tell you, but you just arent very good at this game. You likely just need to improve your tactics and how you try to "take over game space," but me playing instead of AFKing is not going to help you do that. ...unless you're running dedicated Logi. In Ambush, if I can die 6 times, but save 20 clones, I consider that going positive in spite of 0 kills. In Skirmish, if I can keep a Heavy alive through sustained fire from multiple enemies, and he can hold half the enemy team down while we're hacking A, my death to a Sniper soon after wasn't a game-changer.
"Dedicated logi" is nothing more than an excuse for not being very good. Ive played games with a skinweave logi well after reset and still managed to go something like 9-1 AND doing all my logi duties. If you had actually been shooting back you may not have even had to pick up half of those 20 clones. If you suppressed/killed the enemy they may have not even gotten shot down to start with. A good logi kills as much, if not more, than they save. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
267
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Posted - 2013.03.24 02:27:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:There is definately a period of time where you have to get used to Dust regardless of skill, but if youre still going 0-6 a lot after a month Im sorry to tell you, but you just arent very good at this game. You likely just need to improve your tactics and how you try to "take over game space," but me playing instead of AFKing is not going to help you do that. ...unless you're running dedicated Logi. In Ambush, if I can die 6 times, but save 20 clones, I consider that going positive in spite of 0 kills. In Skirmish, if I can keep a Heavy alive through sustained fire from multiple enemies, and he can hold half the enemy team down while we're hacking A, my death to a Sniper soon after wasn't a game-changer. "Dedicated logi" is nothing more than an excuse for not being very good. Ive played games with a skinweave logi well after reset and still managed to go something like 9-1 AND doing all my logi duties. If you had actually been shooting back you may not have even had to pick up half of those 20 clones. If you suppressed/killed the enemy they may have not even gotten shot down to start with. A good logi kills as much, if not more, than they save.
some ones passive aggressive |
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