I have a better question, why is it always the players who are like 1-4 or worse who are the ones that try to suicide the AFKers? You cannot feel entitled to me playing when your individual performance is so detrimental to the team. Maybe if those people AFKed I would actually put some effort in on skirmish anymore.

The difference is that they are trying.

By signing up to the fight there is an expectation that you will fight. Anything less is, well, pathetic.

What is pathetic is having to do more than 50% of your teams work for them. I cant even count the number of games that I personally would have something like 20-3 with 2000 or more WPs capping letters left and right without a squad just so the rest of my team could **** the match away with most of them having 500 or less WPs. That is doggone pathetic! Especially when we still lose and the enemies MCC didnt even get out of shield. Why should I put in any effort when the rest of the team is not putting in any LEGITIMATE effort? So far as I know theres people on my team throwing the match intentionally to help a friend on the other side, hows that for an exploit? Stop crying about it, use your head for more than a tacnet display, and maybe the rest of us will hit the ground and help the team win.

weak ass stat padders cant keep up with their image so they just all stand around afk on the map either in the MCC or far off in spawn where nobody will find them.

solution: call in an LAV and push them into the redline so they get auto kicked.

Spoken like a true loser. Thanks for making my point for me.

Good players don't hide in the mcc. Players hiding in the mcc are, by definition, bad players regardless of stats.

Either play or don't play, but leaching off the blueberries for sp because you are too leet to bother with the actual game is, as I said earlier, pathetic.

If we want to talk about by definition then you are obviously ignorant. Stop crying because we refuse to do your work for you and are letting yall do the work for us for a change.

If we want to talk about by definition then you are obviously ignorant. Stop crying because we refuse to do your work for you and are letting yall do the work for us for a change.

If we want to talk about by definition then you are obviously ignorant. Stop crying because we refuse to do your work for you and are letting yall do the work for us for a change.

No its not an in game glitch. Its the result of CCP putting in their SP gain system of 5 SP per second and 1 SP per WP. The second they said this it was predicted that PPL would AFK farm because you get 70-75% of your SP from time in game not from how well you do. I have said it before and I will say it again. To stop this you have to make it not worthwhile. If you make 1 WP = 5 SP and 1 sec = 1 SP then you will have fixed the vast majority of the problem. Why AFK farm for a measly 1000-1500 SP when if you play a good game you will get 10,000 to 15,000 SP in a single match? This is the change that needs to be made. Until that change is made I cannot blame the people who decide to AFK farm in the MCC because it is so profitable.

justify my sloth

We sloths need no justification!

This game has become boring, repetitive, and old and CCP is very slow at delivering anything new that would keep vets playing instead of farming.

Soon Gäó is not cutting it any longer!

However since there will be no SP reset the Vets have to keep up with the SP cap and what better way to max your cap but not have to play a very boring redline fest than sit in the MCC and farm.

Blame CCP not the players.

BTW if you jump up onto the half walls in the MCC you can not get team killed by a cooked grenade either.

was just in a match with 4 players mcc sp farming

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needs to stop

When the menu jams and I cant choose a suit and I get kicked from the game, I lose isk and sp and yet these fools get rewarded.

to everyone who hate AFK farmers.... YOU ARE BAD. first of all CCP cause this to happen not the farmers, blame CCP. second, if you cant even pull your own weight you shouldn't rely on the better players to win the match for you. if you are good enough you should be able to pull your whole team. third, stop playing by yourself idiots. if you have a squad thats 3 other people you can count on to carry the team. or maybe i just play with very good people and everyone cant do what we do....hmm well get good

What if you just don't get the kills or deaths because the other team is all hiding on their barge? You should still get the sp for looking for them right?

EDIT for Completeness:
If I remember correctly, the current SP/WP system was "voted" on by the players. This was a request to make it easier on the new players who are just starting up to get up to a slightly competitive level of fitting ability before their hairs all go grey and fall out due to the vast difference in the abilities of a LV5 anything and a LV1/2. I think that the system isn't as broken as some of you think. Consider a 2000+ WP per match player vs a 250 WP per match new player. At 5 sp per WP that's 10000+ WP+ booster, vs 1000 sp to the new player. Yes the player that is higher skilled is going to increase his SP pool quicker, yes the new player didn't do as much for the team as a whole in the match, but 250wp=10 assists to the player with 2000 wp. Each kill being 50 wp means that he had 40 kills. That is four times more than that new player getting the assists off the Skilled player who has been playing the game for a good amount of time and possible 10 times where that new player save the skilled player's butt by putting rounds into other players that died later with less starting armor or shields than if they were in a fresh suit.

I bet that anyone who has played this game for over a month on a regular 3-5 days/week has seen their fair share of assists and has often finished off more than one player quickly to go and finish off another player afterwards while the new player is either dead or taking cover. Don't be too quick to write off the 5sp/sec rule. It is there so the new guys/gals can get into Duvolles or Tanks or whatever you currently believe is unfair when used against you, to help you and your team come out on top.

If you think the mechanic is broken because of the number of people going afk, consider this, CCP has yet to give us pool tables and cards in the MCC. They aren't there for lounging in they are there for deployment. The real question I have is if they are being used as a lounge to chat or just afk in, then why is the character playing, PSN Home would most likely be a better place to AFK in.

Attitude is everything, I believe in throwing myself in the line of fire to protect my team mates, even if it costs me a suit or 10, not stepping up and taking control of your merc destiny by participation in the battles is a sure way to lose your edge, respect, and a whole lot of isk when/if friendly fire is put in play.

Kinda shocking people admiting there AFK grinders, can someone make a list of all these idiots names so when i get in a match i know who won't be pulling there weight so i can do extra for the team.

To all those people that say "blue dots are ********" or " i went 20-3 and capped 3 objectives by myself with no support so i give up"
-Really so you assume before the match that all the blue dots won't do anything or they will be ******** so ill just sit in the MCC?
so your feeding to your own logic by sitting in the mcc in the first place.
-Ya blue dots can be ******** sometimes, its your job to show leadership, and motivate them as well as push that extra bit. Did you ever hop onto team chat? even though there many not be anyone there, you can communicate your tactics Example "Everyone needs to rush B, everyone rush B now" or if you have 2 letters on the 3 letter map "Hold the letters don't attack A, i repeat hold C and B don't push for A" or if your low on clones but winning on MCC damage and have majority letters "Every hold the letters, and revive downed solider, we can win this by MCC damage" Simply by doing this and calling out your tactics or your squads tactics can get blue dots motivated and organised.

As the system sits right now its broken: i think they should keep the 5wp=1sec, but for every lets say for every million skill points you get you get 1 wp taking away (example if you have 1 million sp you only get 4wp=sec in battle) but that 1wp is then put towards your WP to skill point ratio for example if your at 5 million sp you would be getting 1wp=1sec but you you would be getting lets say 5 sp=1WP this would still allow new players to level up and get good gear fast and would promote team work for the veterans

lol master farmer eh?

the vets have been playing this for like 6 months now with no new content

when ppl start talkin **** about ur corp over pubs and not in a battle u know the community goin to ****

to everyone who hate AFK farmers.... YOU ARE BAD. first of all CCP cause this to happen not the farmers, blame CCP. second, if you cant even pull your own weight you shouldn't rely on the better players to win the match for you. if you are good enough you should be able to pull your whole team. third, stop playing by yourself idiots. if you have a squad thats 3 other people you can count on to carry the team. or maybe i just play with very good people and everyone cant do what we do....hmm well get good

So, you'd wilfully steal from the poor if only it were legal?

That's your logic here. Fail.

So, you'd wilfully steal from the poor if only it were legal?

That's your logic here. Fail.

That is horrible and not even analagous to this situation. This is more similar to taking your character in an MMO to an area with creeps that cannot kill you and just put yourself on autopilot and leave while your character runs around killing everything slowly earning XP. As I have said if you have an issue with this then go to CCP and tell them to use my solution. You will see AFK farmers drop dramatically and virtually become extinct. Anything else is just you raging. Whats that famous Eve saying???? Oh yea HTFU

this is a video game...you're comment = fail
all i was saying was people need to stop putting the blame on players and put it on CCP. also if players blame the AFK farmers for loses then they need to question their abilities at playing this game. you should start