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Brush Master
HavoK Core
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:13:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sounds very interesting and very promising, its a feature I know many of the players have been pushing for for some time now.
My only word of advice is to try to avoid having all of your candidates be from major organizations, or just people who post a lot on the forums. There are a lot of players out there from some of the massive corps that like to showboat around on the forums, playing themselves off as a fantastic community members when really they're just trying to draw up community support with a silver tongue and little work behind their words to back it up.
There are plenty of people I've seen around that quietly work to support this game by doing hard and good work that is sometimes left unnoticed by the masses, but is nevertheless invaluable to the community in the long run. It would be a shame for CCP to also let this work go unnoticed, because it really is important and will allow this game to survive and thrive. Because of that, the people working on this stuff really should be the ones on the council because they're more interested in the quality of the game and not just their own personal or corporate interests.
indeed, I wouldn't want to see a troll on there lol. What about a max of 1 per corporation? |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
114
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:14:00 -
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This is a great idea and I'll be pointing our mercs to this thread to contribute.
Can we knock the name debate on the head by the way for the time being. Fun though it is for forum discussion I'd rather they get stuck into the details right away.
Voting would be cool but it just isn't practical to do at this point and this approach to create a beta council is one I fully support as CEO of Dust University.
I've long thought that a separate form of a CSM for Dust players, working in conjunction with the elected CSM of Eve and CCP was the way to go. As the Dust community grows, voting may perhaps become a part of it. Don't ask what the criteria are for a voting right, no right idea leaps to mind and the council will be the way to decide that.
What this really does it make me even more pumped for Fanfest this year. If any of the eventual beta council are going I'd love to get to bounce ideas of them and CCP over the three days. And the bars in the evening.
I was hoping for a much larger role for Dust at Fanfest and this pretty much confirms that to be the case.
Looking forward to seeing the final list for the council. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:18:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:While it seems a good idea on paper the method of picking these ppl do not
Why cant you let ppl who want to be on the war council compete for it, so you make a sub forum and just say for 2 weeks anyone who wants to put forward ther name does so and states why they would be good and what they would campaign for
Basically and election but no one votes and only CCP picks the winners, but also CCP would have access to ther posts and to see if they are full of **** or not
Also you could add rules like only max 2 reps from each corp Luckily, we already have access to the posting history of all our internal candidates. We have vetted a number of candidates that were suggested to us and we have reviewed their forum posting history along with a number of other qualifications in order to be sure they live up to the standards we are setting for the beta War Council.
Well good luck with it then
Expect a backlash if the wrong ppl get picked tho |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
115
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:18:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sounds very interesting and very promising, its a feature I know many of the players have been pushing for for some time now.
My only word of advice is to try to avoid having all of your candidates be from major organizations, or just people who post a lot on the forums. There are a lot of players out there from some of the massive corps that like to showboat around on the forums, playing themselves off as a fantastic community members when really they're just trying to draw up community support with a silver tongue and little work behind their words to back it up.
There are plenty of people I've seen around that quietly work to support this game by doing hard and good work that is sometimes left unnoticed by the masses, but is nevertheless invaluable to the community in the long run. It would be a shame for CCP to also let this work go unnoticed, because it really is important and will allow this game to survive and thrive. Because of that, the people working on this stuff really should be the ones on the council because they're more interested in the quality of the game and not just their own personal or corporate interests.
+1 for this. This isn't about the epeen. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
305
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:21:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Well good luck with it then
Expect a backlash if the wrong ppl get picked tho
There'll always be some people unhappy with some of the choices - some simply because they weren't picked and others because their friends weren't picked and others again if their enemies are picked. You can't please everybody. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1060
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:23:00 -
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Gooby Pls, x for space politics. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
641
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:24:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sounds very interesting and very promising, its a feature I know many of the players have been pushing for for some time now.
My only word of advice is to try to avoid having all of your candidates be from major organizations, or just people who post a lot on the forums. There are a lot of players out there from some of the massive corps that like to showboat around on the forums, playing themselves off as a fantastic community members when really they're just trying to draw up community support with a silver tongue and little work behind their words to back it up.
There are plenty of people I've seen around that quietly work to support this game by doing hard and good work that is sometimes left unnoticed by the masses, but is nevertheless invaluable to the community in the long run. It would be a shame for CCP to also let this work go unnoticed, because it really is important and will allow this game to survive and thrive. Because of that, the people working on this stuff really should be the ones on the council because they're more interested in the quality of the game and not just their own personal or corporate interests. +1 for this. This isn't about the epeen.
Unfortunately many of the people who would probably get picked by the community really have no right to be representing the players of this game. I mean we have people who have already been running active campaigns to be elected for something like this, instead of actually spending time working on material and helping players learn and enjoy the game better.
Humility speaks volumes, and its a lesson a vast number of players in this game should learn. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
115
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:28:00 -
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Can the councils first point of order be bringing in a send to corp email function.
My life would be soooooo much easier with it. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
255
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:29:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sounds very interesting and very promising, its a feature I know many of the players have been pushing for for some time now.
My only word of advice is to try to avoid having all of your candidates be from major organizations, or just people who post a lot on the forums. There are a lot of players out there from some of the massive corps that like to showboat around on the forums, playing themselves off as a fantastic community members when really they're just trying to draw up community support with a silver tongue and little work behind their words to back it up.
There are plenty of people I've seen around that quietly work to support this game by doing hard and good work that is sometimes left unnoticed by the masses, but is nevertheless invaluable to the community in the long run. It would be a shame for CCP to also let this work go unnoticed, because it really is important and will allow this game to survive and thrive. Because of that, the people working on this stuff really should be the ones on the council because they're more interested in the quality of the game and not just their own personal or corporate interests. +1 for this. This isn't about the epeen. Unfortunately many of the people who would probably get picked by the community really have no right to be representing the players of this game. I mean we have people who have already been running active campaigns to be elected for something like this, instead of actually spending time working on material and helping players learn and enjoy the game better. Humility speaks volumes, and its a lesson a vast number of players in this game should learn.
I believe they have already looked at players for this council and are doing interviews. They already have the data they need, you should be chosen by your merits, not your ability to woo the crowd. +1 |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
124
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:30:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Can the councils first point of order be bringing in a send to corp email function.
My life would be soooooo much easier with it.
Corp functions in general.
And a clock, a kittening clock.
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1060
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:32:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Can the councils first point of order be bringing in a send to corp email function.
My life would be soooooo much easier with it. Corp functions in general. And a clock, a kittening clock.
Set your PS3 to GMT 0 and your sorted. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
124
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:35:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Can the councils first point of order be bringing in a send to corp email function.
My life would be soooooo much easier with it. Corp functions in general. And a clock, a kittening clock. Set your PS3 to GMT 0 and your sorted.
Eh. I have it marked on my phone. I just would like to see time stamps in general.
It would be nice to know how long ago that person was looking for a squad. Small things are nice. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
641
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:38:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:I believe they have already looked at players for this council and are doing interviews. They already have the data they need, you should be chosen by your merits, not your ability to woo the crowd. +1
We can only hope. This sort of thing is going to pave the direction for Player/CCP interaction and if it's not done right, it's going to put Dust in a bad direction, and it would break my heart to see that happen. The game has so much potential, but it's also volatile right now because of its infancy, we need to be cautious. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:52:00 -
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How will we know who is on it? How could we put in a recommendation to be picked? |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
306
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:58:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:How will we know who is on it? How could we put in a recommendation to be picked?
CCP devs and GMs have already made their nominations to CCP Nolan. |
Mechanicus Lupus
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
37
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:00:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:How will we know who is on it? How could we put in a recommendation to be picked?
Currently CCP is picking the council internally, which is for the best initially. And as far as who:
CCP Dolan wrote:Mechanicus Lupus wrote:Any idea when we will know who is on or tentatively on the War Council? Look for a Dev Blog announcing the full War Council some time before the end of the month.
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PT SD
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
186
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:02:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Congratulations Iron Wolf Saber. I had the same thought.
Nope, I vote for Cerebral Wolf or dent308. The rest of these people were doing this first with questionable motives. I really don't trust anybody else, and you shouldn't either. Remember, these people tried to do this themselves to get free trips to Iceland. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
233
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:06:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Greetings DUST 514 Community,
For those of you that don't know me, I'm CCP Dolan, and I run the EVE Online Council of Stellar Management (CSM). We at CCP have been looking into creating a similar group for DUST 514.
We came to the conclusion that the best group of people to help design the future of this player run organization, which we have yet to officially name, was the players themselves.
I have asked the DUST 514 Development and Community Teams to submit to me a list of some of the most helpful, active, and knowledgeable community members. Representatives from the DUST 514 teams and I will be sitting down and interviewing these candidates to try and identify the best fits for what we will be tentatively calling the DUST 514 War Council (until we come up with a permanent name). We will then be looking at all of these interviews and selecting a council to make up the very first beta version of the War Council.
This appointed council will work closely with us in establishing a voting system, working with teams regarding upcoming features, and generally serving a similar role to the EVE Online CSM.
As this is a beta version of the council, we ask the community as a whole to be tolerant with any growing pains that the council will no doubt experience.
More details about term length, possible summits, council size, etc. will be announced soon. We hope that both the CSM and the War Council can work together towards making the EVE Universe the best it possibly can be.
Please feel free to ask any questions or provide feedback in this thread.
ironwolf saber
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
306
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:07:00 -
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PT SD wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Congratulations Iron Wolf Saber. I had the same thought. Nope, I vote for Cerebral Wolf or dent308. The rest of these people were doing this first with questionable motives. I really don't trust anybody else, and you shouldn't either. Remember, these people tried to do this themselves to get free trips to Iceland.
Fortunately it's not a community vote because we'd soon see the leaders of the big corps and the mouthiest forum posters take up all the positions if it was! |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
850
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:08:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:While it seems a good idea on paper the method of picking these ppl do not
Why cant you let ppl who want to be on the war council compete for it, so you make a sub forum and just say for 2 weeks anyone who wants to put forward ther name does so and states why they would be good and what they would campaign for
Basically and election but no one votes and only CCP picks the winners, but also CCP would have access to ther posts and to see if they are full of **** or not
Also you could add rules like only max 2 reps from each corp Luckily, we already have access to the posting history of all our internal candidates. We have vetted a number of candidates that were suggested to us and we have reviewed their forum posting history along with a number of other qualifications in order to be sure they live up to the standards we are setting for the beta War Council.
You've checked everything they've ever posted on the forums?. That seems a little much. |
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Dao Ferret
BetaMax. CRONOS.
27
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:15:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Can the councils first point of order be bringing in a send to corp email function.
My life would be soooooo much easier with it.
FYI, I think this already exists on the EVE side of a Corp, the only problem is us Dusties don't have access to Corp mail (although it annoyingly shows up as a message waiting for our attention ... meaning my message indicator has been lit since before the open beta with no way for me to see the message that turned it on ... D'oh!)
On a positive note, CCP claims we'll be able to read Corp mail Soonish (my personal hope is the next build, but we'll have to wait and see). |
Absolute Idiom II
BetaMax. CRONOS.
68
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:30:00 -
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So just to be clear: there is not opportunity to do anything from today that could bring any individuals into consideration?
I.E. It's too late to be considered for interview for the WC? |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:10:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:So just to be clear: there is not opportunity to do anything from today that could bring any individuals into consideration?
I.E. It's too late to be considered for interview for the WC?
Yes, we didn't want there to be a whole lot of politics surrounding this beta selection. We will however, likely have the full blown political campaigns seen in the EVE CSM upon the election of the first Full-Term Council. |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
850
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:22:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:So just to be clear: there is not opportunity to do anything from today that could bring any individuals into consideration?
I.E. It's too late to be considered for interview for the WC? Yes, we didn't want there to be a whole lot of politics surrounding this beta selection. We will however, likely have the full blown political campaigns seen in the EVE CSM upon the election of the first Full-Term Council.
What's the chances of the beta council being ported over to the first "real" council?
Also, how much of this announcement has to do with me kicking dust in the CPM's eyes and CSM candidates eyes over the last week or two? |
Young Gun Qc
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:25:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:shellhead wrote:Sounds like an awesome plan but will people who aren't on the council be able to vote? We had some difficulty trying to decide how voting would work in a free-to-play game, where you can have unlimited accounts. We will be working with the War Council and the community to try and shape what elections will look like in the future.
for the FIRST time you have a easy opportuniti :
take the vote fore every CEO
in generaly the ceo can speak for the rest of the group so ....... |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
361
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:31:00 -
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This is (Captain) Awesome news :D
I can't wait to hear about this and I hope the guys previously interested in this (those previously put their names forward) and those interested make the effort to stand out, I'm sure a lot of people are gonna be putting their name forward and if you guys want help getting more noticed, there's a nice lill site waiting for you to put up any information for the community and more :)
CCP Dolan / CCP Eterne, is there anything the community can do to help the candidates? I'm more interested in helping the War Council than being a candidate myself |
Pt3D
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
226
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:32:00 -
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Idk, as long as none of the participants of that CPM issue a few week ago get picked. Those people were trying to gain something tangible from that venture. I think the community wouldn't appreciate CCP picking any of those Mercs, it's just rewarding bad behavior. |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
361
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:33:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:So just to be clear: there is not opportunity to do anything from today that could bring any individuals into consideration?
I.E. It's too late to be considered for interview for the WC? Yes, we didn't want there to be a whole lot of politics surrounding this beta selection. We will however, likely have the full blown political campaigns seen in the EVE CSM upon the election of the first Full-Term Council. What's the chances of the beta council being ported over to the first "real" council? Also, how much of this announcement has to do with me kicking dust in the CPM's eyes and CSM candidates eyes over the last week or two?
probably none :p |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
124
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:34:00 -
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Captain-Awesome wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:So just to be clear: there is not opportunity to do anything from today that could bring any individuals into consideration?
I.E. It's too late to be considered for interview for the WC? Yes, we didn't want there to be a whole lot of politics surrounding this beta selection. We will however, likely have the full blown political campaigns seen in the EVE CSM upon the election of the first Full-Term Council. What's the chances of the beta council being ported over to the first "real" council? Also, how much of this announcement has to do with me kicking dust in the CPM's eyes and CSM candidates eyes over the last week or two? probably none :p
In that case I will toss my hat in the ring. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
446
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:34:00 -
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Good things to come that's for sure, can't wait to see who they pick.
No word about how many will be chosen? A best guess is fine don't need an exact number.
I could see one of them being the winner of the fan challenge, whoever put it together from the Warravens. I have a few other individuals that come to mind. |
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