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JOE-PHOSPHATE Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2013.02.24 01:26:00 - [1] - Quote I come from a long line of playing big name FPS games and I feel that there is a lot CCP is doing with interconnecting and all that, but its missing a lot of polish that most FPS games have. This is Black Ops(the first one) level graphics with 3% of the customization options. My suits all look the same and so do the weapons(minus a different color here and there). I mean an M16A4 looks different than a SCAR and thats the way it should be in game. The Gek looks the same as every other gun. There is a Creo Dron spec shotgun to purchase but if you pay attention, all of the shotguns say Creo Dron on them.lol this game is starting to look like what Activision was doing to True Crime where Square Enix turned it into an awesome game called Sleeping Dogs. So who will build this next?Bungie? They're too busy with Destiny, which looks to me being literally months behind developement on the time line but looks easily 6 years a head. Time to step it up guys.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.24 01:30:00 - [2] - Quote I am sorry to inform you that this is not a finished product. It is in fact a work-in-progress, it is still in beta.
Evan Terkanian Back-Water Grand Stellar Alliance 2	Posted - 2013.02.24 01:32:00 - [3] - Quote I'm sure we'll get item variety in the real game. Right now it's all the same to reduce workload and focus on ironing out the core elements. It's unpolished, as betas always are.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 144	Posted - 2013.02.24 01:33:00 - [4] - Quote I'm not getting tired and don't see myself anytime soon The game is fantastic Imo and the customizatiom blows every other game out of the water you really can create your own class the way you want to play You want to be a sniper medic? Do it Want to be an assault tank? So it Mix and match how you feel best Sorry you cant paint your gun
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.24 01:34:00 - [5] - Quote No, you're just like the 50th guy to create a topic about this.
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 311	Posted - 2013.02.24 01:59:00 - [6] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: I am sorry to inform you that this is not a finished product. It is in fact a work-in-progress, it is still in beta. Typically development goes more like: Alpha: get all the content in Beta: polish and balance the content Release: The core mechanics are working as intended (more or less). then come patches and expansions. I know we are in a crazy age of game development and sales post Minecraft and Kickstarter but when I see this kind of arbitrary use of terms it irritates me. If CCP want to say this game is in beta then players have a right to be concerned with the lack of content. The whole idea of polishing and balancing combat before adding all of the weapon and suit types has confused me since I joined in closed beta. I realize that CCP have their own way of doing things and respect what they did with EVE Online but I can absolutely understand people's concerns with Dust and general lack of prolonged interest.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.24 02:07:00 - [7] - Quote I was going to say wait untill fanfest, but given your past in shooters I'm just gonna say you should leave now.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 144	Posted - 2013.02.24 02:10:00 - [8] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: I was going to say wait untill fanfest, but given your past in shooters I'm just gonna say you should leave now. NEVER push away the community If he enjoys the game regardless is he thinks its buggy or has bad customization he shouldn't be told to leave until he says he doesn't like it as of now he is just losing interest that could be fixed by upcoming features
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.24 02:16:00 - [9] - Quote I was getting bored of this build, but Bojo's school of the trades is keeping me happily doing R&D
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.24 02:24:00 - [10] - Quote My interest is lost. The next build is going to make or break it for me. I've been here since build 1 of closed beta. We know this isn't the full version but progression has been very slow. Yes devs have a weekly feedback, however, they say things like Looking into redline abuse, the next week its something else with 0 updates of what they discussed for redline abuse. 1 year later and we haven't even seen 90% of the things said they would be fixing. We get hardly any real feedback and if they did implement something we suggested or that we want balanced more, they do their own thing hoping its right without working along side the community to balance things out. We've been lacked in content for a year, I mean really? 1 year and very little has changed. This game has great potential. If it doesn't speed up by the time ps4 gets on market then it will flop. Psn players are not like PC players, once something flops the player base is dead and stays so. There needs to be more content and need for Corp battles than just fame and glory. Market trading needs to be open, Terrain bugs need fixed, Graphics need smoothed, DS's need their WP's, AV vs Vehicles need fixed, Large missile turrets need fixed, Railguns need to be more effective, AR's need their internal tier system reworked for dps and recoil between militia and proto, LR needs skills to work and be applied, AV grenades need reworked, Swarms need reworked, Hit detection needs improvement, These are just a few thing in a long list that a year hasn't been solved and slowly moves forward, though moving backwards faster then forward

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.24 02:26:00 - [11] - Quote Moonracer2000 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: I am sorry to inform you that this is not a finished product. It is in fact a work-in-progress, it is still in beta. Typically development goes more like: Alpha: get all the content in Beta: polish and balance the content Release: The core mechanics are working as intended (more or less). then come patches and expansions. I know we are in a crazy age of game development and sales post Minecraft and Kickstarter but when I see this kind of arbitrary use of terms it irritates me. If CCP want to say this game is in beta then players have a right to be concerned with the lack of content. The whole idea of polishing and balancing combat before adding all of the weapon and suit types has confused me since I joined in closed beta. I realize that CCP have their own way of doing things and respect what they did with EVE Online but I can absolutely understand people's concerns with Dust and general lack of prolonged interest. Most betas these days are usually the disk is already printing at stores and are being shipped when they let people in, thus somewhat of an early demo. This malforming of a beta pisses me off because they generate the people you describe.
Utsuru Kaiju IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2013.02.24 03:18:00 - [12] - Quote Please wait until the game is finished to formulate an opinion, this game is a beta, a prototype, just a glimpse of what's to come. Be patient.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.24 03:22:00 - [13] - Quote Hell even after the launch build we're not done.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 150	Posted - 2013.02.24 03:33:00 - [14] - Quote Fanfest is going to be huge for announcements and sneak peeks. DUST is CCP's first and only console game. TL;DR - Ths is not your father's Oldsmobile. Also, I'm old.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.24 04:40:00 - [15] - Quote I just hope a good build hits before ps4, or this game is toast.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 130	Posted - 2013.02.24 04:43:00 - [16] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: I just hope a good build hits before ps4, or this game is toast. Hope this game is on ps4 as soon as ps4 is out so it will be on ps3 and ps4 cuz I wont go back to ps3 when ps4 comes out
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.24 04:45:00 - [17] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: I just hope a good build hits before ps4, or this game is toast. Hope this game is on ps4 as soon as ps4 is out so it will be on ps3 and ps4 cuz I wont go back to ps3 when ps4 comes out If you can afford just A controller for ps4.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.24 05:00:00 - [18] - Quote Utsuru Kaiju wrote: Please wait until the game is finished to formulate an opinion, this game is a beta, a prototype, just a glimpse of what's to come. Be patient. Bullshit, this is a glorified alpha. Allow me to quote something I posted 6 MONTHS AGO Quote: I love how CCP just seems to play Jenga with dust "lets see how many **** we can stack up with a mediocre base until everything falls" How about you do like the whole MOBA developers have been doing with their betas, fix the issues THEN release new stuff. Just a thought. And yes I hate the "its a beta" excuse, just cause its a beta doesnt mean that it has to be poorly done, thats what alphas are for, kid. Match the dots and find the issue.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.02.24 05:27:00 - [19] - Quote i cant get that hyped on destiny from the limited footage of it, its basically delivered well by well spoken people on an expensive stage from the extent of the footage. they talk vaguely of vastness and cool "stuff" but nothing really specific, it comes off as good PR to me. tho i havnt given up on the vision of dust yet
Rasputin La'Gar Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2013.02.24 05:29:00 - [20] - Quote Implying True Crime 3 wouldn't have been a little better than Sleeping Dogs Anyway I'm not even an EVE player, but CCP seems like both a company to be trusted and a company in it for the long haul with their games Their moving slowly and being relatively responsive only confirms that imo. People can deny all they want, but in reality I see Dust514 [no beta] on PS4

iLLMaTiC619 KiLo. 19	Posted - 2013.02.24 06:20:00 - [21] - Quote I love this game and what can and could be, will be awesome... BUT they need to move it along.. If they want the population to stick around and get new people to play they need to keep it moving.. New Maps (what I want to see), planets, weather, customize camo or weapon color, taking over control of planets etc needs to be put in place for the PS3 so it can gain momentum onto the PS4.. I will ride with this game til the wheels fall off but most wont wait...
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:32:00 - [22] - Quote iLLMaTiC619 wrote: I love this game and what can and could be, will be awesome... BUT they need to move it along.. If they want the population to stick around and get new people to play they need to keep it moving.. New Maps (what I want to see), planets, weather, customize camo or weapon color, taking over control of planets etc needs to be put in place for the PS3 so it can gain momentum onto the PS4.. I will ride with this game til the wheels fall off but most wont wait... Well. We'll see in the new build.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2013.02.25 01:07:00 - [23] - Quote Welcome to the reality of what it means to be a work in progress. You came here knowing fully well that this is a beta and therefore you should have known that the beta is currently not finished. Much work needs to be done, that we already know. Let me bring to you a little history. When Eve Online first launched, it was severely lacking in so many things. What you see now in Eve Online wasn't there upon release. The New Player Experience system was not in place, avatars were limited to just a portrait of your character and his/her upper torso, graphics were so cheap they looked half-baked, etc. I can go on but the forums has a character limit per post. In fact, the game was rushed out because the company was small and had no choice. Today, CCP has grown strong and Eve Online has grown to fruition during the past 10 years but they know that just because they have gotten better that doesn't mean they are obligated to hurry up with their production. Unlike some game companies, CCP wants to be careful with what they are producing because Dust's development will effect Eve Online which is their main source of revenue. Even at this state, Dust is already affecting Eve in terms of new subscribers, market speculators, and corporate policy changes being setup by the players. If CCP screws up Dust, then Eve Online could suffer and I don't want to see that happen to a game that took 10 years to build up.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:02:00 - [24] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: My interest is lost. The next build is going to make or break it for me. I've been here since build 1 of closed beta. We know this isn't the full version but progression has been very slow. Yes devs have a weekly feedback, however, they say things like Looking into redline abuse, the next week its something else with 0 updates of what they discussed for redline abuse. 1 year later and we haven't even seen 90% of the things said they would be fixing. We get hardly any real feedback and if they did implement something we suggested or that we want balanced more, they do their own thing hoping its right without working along side the community to balance things out. We've been lacked in content for a year, I mean really? 1 year and very little has changed. This game has great potential. If it doesn't speed up by the time ps4 gets on market then it will flop. Psn players are not like PC players, once something flops the player base is dead and stays so. There needs to be more content and need for Corp battles than just fame and glory. Market trading needs to be open, Terrain bugs need fixed, Graphics need smoothed, DS's need their WP's, AV vs Vehicles need fixed, Large missile turrets need fixed, Railguns need to be more effective, AR's need their internal tier system reworked for dps and recoil between militia and proto, LR needs skills to work and be applied, AV grenades need reworked, Swarms need reworked, Hit detection needs improvement, These are just a few thing in a long list that a year hasn't been solved and slowly moves forward, though moving backwards faster then forward I totally agree with pretty much everything that you say.The lack of content and polish for a game that's been in development for this long is teetering on unacceptable,mainly because of the lack of communication to the players from CCP. The more and more I think about it,the more I'm of the realization that this game will never be finished for the PS3.I would bet almost anything that CCP has the dev tools for PS4,and are maximizing it for the new console.I'm thinking that we are just lab rats testing that most basic systems so that they can just easily transfer that data into the PS4. As slowly as this game is moving into becoming a full release,that's the only thing that really makes any sense at this point.The progression of development is just taking way too long for anything else other than they just don't know what the hell they are doing,to be the case.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:04:00 - [25] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: My interest is lost. The next build is going to make or break it for me. I've been here since build 1 of closed beta. We know this isn't the full version but progression has been very slow. Yes devs have a weekly feedback, however, they say things like Looking into redline abuse, the next week its something else with 0 updates of what they discussed for redline abuse. 1 year later and we haven't even seen 90% of the things said they would be fixing. We get hardly any real feedback and if they did implement something we suggested or that we want balanced more, they do their own thing hoping its right without working along side the community to balance things out. We've been lacked in content for a year, I mean really? 1 year and very little has changed. This game has great potential. If it doesn't speed up by the time ps4 gets on market then it will flop. Psn players are not like PC players, once something flops the player base is dead and stays so. There needs to be more content and need for Corp battles than just fame and glory. Market trading needs to be open, Terrain bugs need fixed, Graphics need smoothed, DS's need their WP's, AV vs Vehicles need fixed, Large missile turrets need fixed, Railguns need to be more effective, AR's need their internal tier system reworked for dps and recoil between militia and proto, LR needs skills to work and be applied, AV grenades need reworked, Swarms need reworked, Hit detection needs improvement, These are just a few thing in a long list that a year hasn't been solved and slowly moves forward, though moving backwards faster then forward I totally agree with pretty much everything that you say.The lack of content and polish for a game that's been in development for this long is teetering on unacceptable,mainly because of the lack of communication to the players from CCP. The more and more I think about it,the more I'm of the realization that this game will never be finished for the PS3.I would bet almost anything that CCP has the dev tools for PS4,and are maximizing it for the new console.I'm thinking that we are just lab rats testing that most basic systems so that they can just easily transfer that data into the PS4. As slowly as this game is moving into becoming a full release,that's the only thing that really makes any sense at this point.The progression of development is just taking way too long for anything else other than they just don't know what the hell they are doing,to be the case. I thought this too, until I found out CCP is not registered for development with Sony for any PS4 porting ect. So technically atm, they can't be using tools for it.
Blackie 71 Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:28:00 - [26] - Quote After about an hour, I usually get bored and go play a "big boy" FPS, but I think a lot of that is because it is in beta.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:37:00 - [27] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: I thought this too, until I found out CCP is not registered for development with Sony for any PS4 porting ect. So technically atm, they can't be using tools for it. Just curious,but where would you find this information? I know that Sony had a big screen of devs that they showed during last Wednesday's press conference,but I'm not sure that just because CCP wasn't listed necessarily means that they don't have the dev tools for PS4. On the other hand,to play my own devil's advocate,even though CCP has clearly stated that they have plans to bring Dust to the PS4,that doesn't necessarily mean that Sony is ready for them to bring the game to the next gen console.If that truly is the case,then it's obvious that Sony is taking a wait and see approach of how Dust will do on the PS3.In that case,they really need to get their **** together,otherwise this game is doomed to an outdated console that will never be able to handle the full scope of what Dust 514 is going to demand.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:50:00 - [28] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: I thought this too, until I found out CCP is not registered for development with Sony for any PS4 porting ect. So technically atm, they can't be using tools for it. Just curious,but where would you find this information? I know that Sony had a big screen of devs that they showed during last Wednesday's press conference,but I'm not sure that just because CCP wasn't listed necessarily means that they don't have the dev tools for PS4. On the other hand,to play my own devil's advocate,even though CCP has clearly stated that they have plans to bring Dust to the PS4,that doesn't necessarily mean that Sony is ready for them to bring the game to the next gen console.If that truly is the case,then it's obvious that Sony is taking a wait and see approach of how Dust will do on the PS3.In that case,they really need to get their **** together,otherwise this game is doomed to an outdated console that will never be able to handle the full scope of what Dust 514 is going to demand. From the link on the post here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=568967#post568967
tastzlike chicken ROGUE SPADES 59	Posted - 2013.02.25 03:29:00 - [29] - Quote I am trying to avoid focusing on the next build as "The One". The one to perfect the graphics. The one to get the weapon balance right. The one to add THE content I will find most satisfying...the one to alphabetize my @#%$! contact list, etc. -but yeah, I get a vague kind of ennui as each build ages; Dust, as a whole becomes a little stale, with a couple of fun games to break it up. However, when I take a look at EVE (ugly bits and all) I still get excited for what Dust may become. Things to do in EVE I totally appreciate how people are getting sick of that particular sentiment; some of us are just looking for a better FPS and some of us are looking down the line for a more meaningful FPS. There's plenty to be disappointed about from both perspectives. None of us feel like we have enough pieces to play with yet and CCP could do a better job communicating their plans and managing expectations. This game is going to have to get a lot bigger before there's enough room for all of us to play this game the way we want to play it. Right now it's small and cramped and were all stepping on each others toes. If you do leave, check back in a couple months, or next year, or 2 years from now. If DUST dies, it dies. -but if it doesn't, you may find that it has what you're looking for. (I will now resume my general snarkiness)
usrevenge2 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 64	Posted - 2013.02.25 03:50:00 - [30] - Quote I think there needs to be more frequent updates, but once the market and single player content is working it will be a lot better.

Grenwal Hiesenberg Shadow Company HQ 226	Posted - 2013.02.25 05:48:00 - [31] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I totally agree with pretty much everything that you say.The lack of content and polish for a game that's been in development for this long is teetering on unacceptable,mainly because of the lack of communication to the players from CCP. The more and more I think about it,the more I'm of the realization that this game will never be finished for the PS3.I would bet almost anything that CCP has the dev tools for PS4,and are maximizing it for the new console.I'm thinking that we are just lab rats testing that most basic systems so that they can just easily transfer that data into the PS4. As slowly as this game is moving into becoming a full release,that's the only thing that really makes any sense at this point.The progression of development is just taking way too long for anything else other than they just don't know what the hell they are doing,to be the case. I thought this too, until I found out CCP is not registered for development with Sony for any PS4 porting ect. So technically atm, they can't be using tools for it. I'm still not convinced that is a complete list, it says nowhere in there it is. I say this because I got the same feeling as I watched the unveiling, the PS4 just seems so much better suited to running the wide array of things that are promised in this game. I too get bored but I'm remaining hopeful as well they'll turn things around before too many of us get turned off. Edit: a quick search led me to the white wolf partners page. White wolf is a parent/partner company to CCP. That page has a very familiar name on it. I'm not entirely sure how it works but maybe CCP could sublease the license through them somehow? Hopefully someone in the know can clarify further.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 05:51:00 - [32] - Quote Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I totally agree with pretty much everything that you say.The lack of content and polish for a game that's been in development for this long is teetering on unacceptable,mainly because of the lack of communication to the players from CCP. The more and more I think about it,the more I'm of the realization that this game will never be finished for the PS3.I would bet almost anything that CCP has the dev tools for PS4,and are maximizing it for the new console.I'm thinking that we are just lab rats testing that most basic systems so that they can just easily transfer that data into the PS4. As slowly as this game is moving into becoming a full release,that's the only thing that really makes any sense at this point.The progression of development is just taking way too long for anything else other than they just don't know what the hell they are doing,to be the case. I thought this too, until I found out CCP is not registered for development with Sony for any PS4 porting ect. So technically atm, they can't be using tools for it. I'm still not convinced that is a complete list, it says nowhere in there it is. I say this because I got the same feeling as I watched the unveiling, the PS4 just seems so much better suited to running the wide array of things that are promised in this game. I too get bored but I'm remaining hopeful as well they'll turn things around before too many of us get turned off. Oh ya, I won't lose hope until I know its gone. Still, the sinking feeling is just as bad.
Grenwal Hiesenberg Shadow Company HQ 226	Posted - 2013.02.25 06:11:00 - [33] - Quote Me too, thank jebus for ps+ and those "free" games
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.02.25 06:33:00 - [34] - Quote My Dust 514 gametime is evolving to be less and less the older this build gets.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2013.02.25 07:10:00 - [35] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: My interest is lost. The next build is going to make or break it for me. I've been here since build 1 of closed beta. We know this isn't the full version but progression has been very slow. Yes devs have a weekly feedback, however, they say things like Looking into redline abuse, the next week its something else with 0 updates of what they discussed for redline abuse. 1 year later and we haven't even seen 90% of the things said they would be fixing. We get hardly any real feedback and if they did implement something we suggested or that we want balanced more, they do their own thing hoping its right without working along side the community to balance things out. We've been lacked in content for a year, I mean really? 1 year and very little has changed. This game has great potential. If it doesn't speed up by the time ps4 gets on market then it will flop. Psn players are not like PC players, once something flops the player base is dead and stays so. There needs to be more content and need for Corp battles than just fame and glory. Market trading needs to be open, Terrain bugs need fixed, Graphics need smoothed, DS's need their WP's, AV vs Vehicles need fixed, Large missile turrets need fixed, Railguns need to be more effective, AR's need their internal tier system reworked for dps and recoil between militia and proto, LR needs skills to work and be applied, AV grenades need reworked, Swarms need reworked, Hit detection needs improvement, These are just a few thing in a long list that a year hasn't been solved and slowly moves forward, though moving backwards faster then forward I totally agree with pretty much everything that you say.The lack of content and polish for a game that's been in development for this long is teetering on unacceptable,mainly because of the lack of communication to the players from CCP. The more and more I think about it,the more I'm of the realization that this game will never be finished for the PS3.I would bet almost anything that CCP has the dev tools for PS4,and are maximizing it for the new console.I'm thinking that we are just lab rats testing that most basic systems so that they can just easily transfer that data into the PS4. As slowly as this game is moving into becoming a full release,that's the only thing that really makes any sense at this point.The progression of development is just taking way too long for anything else other than they just don't know what the hell they are doing,to be the case. This game won't progress much past what it is now due to the platform constraints being bumped into. They will make it as stable as they can and abandon you while they shoot for the next platform. CCP can't risk being left behind again on the wrong end of a console's life cycle. Of course they won't say that, they only need to tease you along for around six more months.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 193	Posted - 2013.02.25 07:13:00 - [36] - Quote I love how people come on the forums threatening CCP with leaving. If you want to leave then leave. To me at least you sound like the guy at best buy shoutting loud trying to say this is crappy about the company and that is horrible about the company. In the mean time we all just go about shopping at the store. Also this is a true beta, there opened the beta to get the numbers up to test the servers and to be a part of the "free-to-play" push by sony. This game is doing something that no other game has done before. Connecting a console with a pc in real time. There is no bemch mark for this. There are going to be speed bums and stalls at some point, but I would say that no news is good news, or silence is golden. I feel like gamers are the most spoilled people on the planet. Your basically saying give me my money's worth when you payed nothing. So in all reality you have gotten more than your money's worth. You literally got something for nothing. And if you did give CCP money through a merc pack or aurum purchase that is on you not them. Bottom line is no one listens to the guy in a resturant yelling "This place has rats" because we all know there pissed and just want to get something they are not entitled to. Or you get screwed on a game you didn't pay for when there are tons of people who buy games and are disappointted by them.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 60	Posted - 2013.02.25 07:32:00 - [37] - Quote Moonracer2000 wrote: Typically development goes more like: Alpha: get all the content in Beta: polish and balance the content Release: The core mechanics are working as intended (more or less). Someone needs to look up testing phases and their definitions in wikipedia. :)
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 09:00:00 - [38] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: I love how people come on the forums threatening CCP with leaving. If you want to leave then leave. To me at least you sound like the guy at best buy shoutting loud trying to say this is crappy about the company and that is horrible about the company. In the mean time we all just go about shopping at the store. Also this is a true beta, there opened the beta to get the numbers up to test the servers and to be a part of the "free-to-play" push by sony. This game is doing something that no other game has done before. Connecting a console with a pc in real time. There is no bemch mark for this. There are going to be speed bums and stalls at some point, but I would say that no news is good news, or silence is golden. I feel like gamers are the most spoilled people on the planet. Your basically saying give me my money's worth when you payed nothing. So in all reality you have gotten more than your money's worth. You literally got something for nothing. And if you did give CCP money through a merc pack or aurum purchase that is on you not them. Bottom line is no one listens to the guy in a resturant yelling "This place has rats" because we all know there pissed and just want to get something they are not entitled to. Or you get screwed on a game you didn't pay for when there are tons of people who buy games and are disappointted by them. 10 years of eve, 8 accounts, I've paid something. Don't jump to conclusions, Most of the player base here is from eve, we have paid for this game. We also brought up the idea to make it a few years ago. 360k accounts times 14.99 per month for 10 years. Was this game really free to play? Or free for the psn community unfamiliar with eve to play?
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2013.02.25 09:05:00 - [39] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: I love how people come on the forums threatening CCP with leaving. If you want to leave then leave. To me at least you sound like the guy at best buy shoutting loud trying to say this is crappy about the company and that is horrible about the company. In the mean time we all just go about shopping at the store. Also this is a true beta, there opened the beta to get the numbers up to test the servers and to be a part of the "free-to-play" push by sony. This game is doing something that no other game has done before. Connecting a console with a pc in real time. There is no bemch mark for this. There are going to be speed bums and stalls at some point, but I would say that no news is good news, or silence is golden. I feel like gamers are the most spoilled people on the planet. Your basically saying give me my money's worth when you payed nothing. So in all reality you have gotten more than your money's worth. You literally got something for nothing. And if you did give CCP money through a merc pack or aurum purchase that is on you not them. Bottom line is no one listens to the guy in a resturant yelling "This place has rats" because we all know there pissed and just want to get something they are not entitled to. Or you get screwed on a game you didn't pay for when there are tons of people who buy games and are disappointted by them. 10 years of eve, 8 accounts, I've paid something. Don't jump to conclusions, Most of the player base here is from eve, we have paid for this game. We also brought up the idea to make it a few years ago. 360k accounts times 14.99 per month for 10 years. Was this game really free to play? Or free for the psn community unfamiliar with eve to play? Being a loyal customer won't save you. Because you won't toe the party line you'll be simply targeted by CCP for special treatment. I'll bet that guy that was likening people not pro-CCP to child molesters in other threads is in less danger than you for expressing the views you do. Don't be surprised if you find your EVE accounts threatened for having your opinion. It happens.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 752	Posted - 2013.02.25 09:37:00 - [40] - Quote No one will have their accounts threatened for having an opinion about our product, positive or negative, as long as the expressing of that opinion does not break the rules.


Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2013.02.25 09:51:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: No one will have their accounts threatened for having an opinion about our product, positive or negative, as long as the expressing of that opinion does not break the rules. Heh heh heh. You're a funny guy, but you and I know it doesn't quite work that way.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 752	Posted - 2013.02.25 09:57:00 - [42] - Quote But you know what is a good way to get a forum warning? Rumor mongering. I have deleted a post which did just that!

Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2013.02.25 10:03:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: But you know what is a good way to get a forum warning? Rumor mongering. I have deleted a post which did just that! CCP Eterne, I'm sure you're a great guy doing a bang up job but do you know what you are doing here as far as I can see it? You are simply goading me into break rule No. 9 which would elegantly prove my point but we both know is very much a a no-no. And in particular very dangerous to us all if I had to do so. So I appreciate your work at steering the ship for CCP on the DUST forums but some events are probably beyond your knowledge. It's nothing personal.
empty souls Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 3	Posted - 2013.02.25 10:20:00 - [44] - Quote Stale moldy bread leaves a bad taste in your mouth....
Jebus McKing DUST University Ivy League 24	Posted - 2013.02.25 10:34:00 - [45] - Quote JOE-PHOSPHATE wrote: This is Black Ops(the first one) level graphics with 3% of the customization options. My suits all look the same and so do the weapons(minus a different color here and there). I mean an M16A4 looks different than a SCAR and thats the way it should be in game. The Gek looks the same as every other gun. There is a Creo Dron spec shotgun to purchase but if you pay attention, all of the shotguns say Creo Dron on them.lol So basically everything you are complaining about is a lack of visual variety. Well, that's ok, you are right. I'm happy that you don't complain about core mechanics. Lets be honest, increasing visual variety really is something the next builds will bring us. From what you said it seems you would be happy if CCP just renamed the Caldari Type-I Assault to Minmatar Assault and gave it a new shiny model. That's ok, I'd like that too. But changing the models of weapons/suits doesn't change any of the core mechanics of this game. To me the current build is more like a 'Ok, the core mechanics are working, lets go into open beta and lift the NDA so everyone can start talking about the game'-build. From now on every build we will get (and we will get 2 each year if they do it as in EVE) will introduce new features and graphical improvements. CCP got the core mechanics working and it took them a long time. But now they can finally concentrate on the shiny stuff. JOE-PHOSPHATE wrote: I come from a long line of playing big name FPS games Me too. I played them all. They were fun for a while, but I think DUST514 will be the one game I'll always be coming back to. All those other shooters are outdated and abandoned after 2 years. But DUST514, while it looks outdated graphically atm, will probably never be abandoned. It will keep on evolving. If you lose interest in the game that's ok. Just go and play something else but make sure you come back for the next build. And lets be honest, you will be back. On a side note, yes, I lost interest. I lost interest in any other game but DUST514. /fanboyism Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote: Me too, thank jebus for ps+ and those "free" games I had nothing to do with this.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 95	Posted - 2013.02.25 10:56:00 - [46] - Quote This is why passive sp and patience are great. A lot of people are grinding this game like something depends on it and are burning out because of it. I'm grinding because even with this much content in, there is a LOT to test before launch.
A'Real Fury The Silver Falcon Federation 4	Posted - 2013.02.25 11:20:00 - [47] - Quote I enjoy playing FPS games but I find that after a certain amount of time you move on to the next iteration of that game e.g COD MW 1 to Black Ops to MW2 etc. I also enjoy playing RPG's and I have found that I spend more time enjoying the actual game play and the game last longer than most of the FPS games. As such my hope for Dust is that it will truly incorporate both genres, over time, and result in a game that I will enjoy for years to come. Based on Eve I believe this is a realistic hope but it will take time. Please note that I have not played Eve so I come as a brand new potential customer. I will admit that I am still happy to remain patient as I only came in at the beginning of the open beta but I wouldn't mind more maps or if the dynamic map generation software is operating then have the existing program generate more extreme changes to the layout. In the meantime I am very much enjoying the skills aspect of the game as it gives value to the character you play on screen.
Monkxx Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.02.25 11:32:00 - [48] - Quote The gameplay is broken - STFU, this is beta. The balance is broken - STFU, this is beta. FPS drops - STFU, this is beta. Matchmaking troubles - STFU, this is beta. Menu navigation is broken (e.g. Squad invitations) - STFU, this is beta. Hit detection is broken - STFU, this is beta. Vehicle controls are broken - STFU, this is beta. Corp Battles are useless - STFU, this is beta. Corp Management is broken - STFU, this is beta. No Trading - STFU, this is beta. Couple of maps - STFU, this is beta. Lack of overall variety - STFU, this is beta. Over 9k of other bugs and broken mechanics - STFU, this is beta. Lack of Faction Warfare/Corp Battles Metagame - STFU, this is beta. Lack of promised Eve and Dust514 connection ("link") - STFU, this is beta. The game has been in development for like 5 years aleady and feels like v0.1 alpha - STFU, this is beta.
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2013.02.25 12:16:00 - [49] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: I was going to say wait untill fanfest, but given your past in shooters I'm just gonna say you should leave now. This is how this community treats itself. If you don't like an unfinished and bad product, just go away because the fanboys wod rather have the game flop then Hear any different
Jebus McKing DUST University Ivy League 24	Posted - 2013.02.25 12:52:00 - [50] - Quote What kind of answer do you guys expect for the 1001st post saying 'this is broken, that is broken, this is not like COD, this game is dead, bye!'? We know what is broken and/or missing, the devs know what is broken and/or missing. They are working on it and they will release a new build when its done. They will keep adding new features to the game for a long time. So what do you want to hear? 'Oh, thank you so much, without you we never would've known that this game has issues. We honestly thought it was perfect the way it is!'?! Or do you want them to rush a new build just because you got bored already? If you discover a problem and honestly want to help the devs then go to the feedback forums, make a thread and post a detailed description. Also, yes, the devs could more frequently let us know what is going on and what they are working on. But the reason they don't tell us when the next build is coming or what new features come with the next build is because they probably don't exactly know themselves. And if they told you that X, Y and Z feature would be in the next build and they would release it in 10 days and then, due to some unforeseen circumstances, they have to postpone the release by 5 days and feature Z won't make it, the next day there will be 100 threads complaining about why feature Z didn't make it and why they had to wait for 5 more days.

Panther Alpha Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 44	Posted - 2013.02.25 23:16:00 - [51] - Quote I won't say i losing interest... because i'm sure this game will be great once is finish. But i most confess, is getting harder and harder, to play the same maps over and over again, and spending the majority of battles in redlines, or running around the map in circles, playing cops and robbers. But i want to believe!!! so i just going to find the motivation to carry on enduring the pain. Some more content will be nice CCP, just to keep us happy.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 201	Posted - 2013.02.25 23:28:00 - [52] - Quote Monkxx wrote: The gameplay is broken - STFU, this is beta. The balance is broken - STFU, this is beta. FPS drops - STFU, this is beta. Matchmaking troubles - STFU, this is beta. Menu navigation is broken (e.g. Squad invitations) - STFU, this is beta. Hit detection is broken - STFU, this is beta. Vehicle controls are broken - STFU, this is beta. Corp Battles are useless - STFU, this is beta. Corp Management is broken - STFU, this is beta. No Trading - STFU, this is beta. Couple of maps - STFU, this is beta. Lack of overall variety - STFU, this is beta. Over 9k of other bugs and broken mechanics - STFU, this is beta. Lack of Faction Warfare/Corp Battles Metagame - STFU, this is beta. Lack of promised Eve and Dust514 connection ("link") - STFU, this is beta. The game has been in development for like 5 years aleady and feels like v0.1 alpha - STFU, this is beta. You are correct. Because a beta is not a finished product. If I built you half a car and said it will be done soon, then you tried to drive it and it didn't work 100% would that be broken? No it would be unfinished. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend. What if this happened in your job (your meaning all the complainers like this) and said your unfinished product is broken? You would say well it's not broken it's just not finished yet. You don't have to STFU you need to wait till the product is in full release and then if these issues are still there it would be broken or a lie or how ever you want to phrase it. I don't like certain stores so I don't go there. I don't like sushi, I really had high hopes for sushi, but now that I taste it I don't like it, so guess what ? I don't eat it.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1044	Posted - 2013.02.25 23:33:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: No one will have their accounts threatened for having an opinion about our product, positive or negative, as long as the expressing of that opinion does not break the rules. It's pretty easy to stay within the rules really. I try to be constructive even when CCP needs a good bashing and thurogh beat down. Which I am happy to deliver on behalf of my fellow dust mercs.
Sy Vongrim Imperial Bureau of Internal Security 1	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:18:00 - [54] - Quote When it comes to game critique I tend to think that most people complaining about a game are far too jaded to actually do so. When youGÇÖve played any type of game for YEARS, be it FPS, MMO, etc, IGÇÖve come to expect in my old age that most players verbalize what is actually a personal emptiness in their lives theyGÇÖve been filling with excessive game play as GÇ£this game sucksGÇ¥. The truth is thereGÇÖs only so many GÇ£featuresGÇ¥ you can put in something to make it fun. And too much of the same thing tends to make people not respect the effort that went into making something new from the ground up which is often built on one or two GÇ£new ideasGÇ¥. A new game may have that one new feature that made it sound GÇ£coolGÇ¥ but if it didnGÇÖt have the 40 other features invented or introduced before it, itGÇÖs often labeled a GÇ£sucky gameGÇ¥. That to me is being jaded. Basically all a FPS has ever been is GÇ£grab a gun and shoot the other playerGÇ¥ everything else is bells a whistles. Counterstike still has a respectable player base, and still has a place for having fun if thatGÇÖs not all you do with your day. Would they criticize the 15th version of the board game Risk, when the Space themed version that has an extra map you can conquer of the moon comes out? If you play it every single day for weeks, months or years youGÇÖre damn right they do. But if you play once and a while that game is still a blast. At one point in these complainers lives they had a penultimate experience with one particular game, yet over time they lost interest for one reason or another. Every day since that experience theyGÇÖve been chasing that high, been disappointed they canGÇÖt get that feeling back and take it out on an unfinished Beta that has expectations on it to be profitable within a certain timetable because its business not just pleasure for the financiers. So IMO if you are QQGÇÖing about a FPS when youGÇÖve been playing various ones for years without end, the problem is probably you, not the game. Stop playing so much. Go outside once and awhile. This is not to say that a game in BETA shouldnGÇÖt get criticism. ThereGÇÖs no way to get better without getting feedback from your client base, but IGÇÖd take it all with a grain of salt. If you really want a game to be better give CONSTRUCTIVE DETAILED things you think should be fixed, and then donGÇÖt place unreasonable expectations on a business to instantly gratify you by fixing them immediately.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:21:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: No one will have their accounts threatened for having an opinion about our product, positive or negative, as long as the expressing of that opinion does not break the rules. not yet, but the instant your toadies from the scope get in here to "moderate" expect a great deal of censorship
Scoot Medic ZionTCD Legacy Rising 51	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:23:00 - [56] - Quote The game has just gotten boring. All the modes lack originality, Skirmish feels like a classic domination mode and Ambush is just TDM. The game needs new vehicles, Jets, MTACs anything to just break the repetitivness of ground play. Needs better matchmaking, something like a Team Lobby, where players can pre-create 16 players teams to go up against other pre-made teams at a +20-25% SP rate, hardly any competition and competition usually only comes from that tryhard using an ADV fitting and a Duvolle stomping blueberries at 20-0. I'm not coming back until content worth playing is added.
Osiris Ausare Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:34:00 - [57] - Quote As other comments have stated we are still in beta, but honestly the game is amazing even with the bugs and sub-par graphics. It keeps you coming back, keeps you wanting to evolve your play. Furthermore, the community is what keeps this going. This isn't a regular fps where screaming kids constantly try to ruin the game and most players are only interested in their kdr (yes there are players in dust who are obsessed with kdr, but most of the good ones have an essential role in their team and work together with their squad-mates). Teamwork is what separates this games from the "big-name" first person shooters; in fact it reminds me of MAG. It's not the same, but both games had average graphics, but amazing game-play which emphasized teamwork and strategy. I don't have an fps background (I did play MAG for about 5 months when it first came out) but I keep coming back because of the deep customization (in fact I just spent the last hour mapping out what I am going to do upgrade wise for the next two weeks), intense battles, solid teamwork and a great community. I look forward to seeing what CCP will be doing with Dust in the coming months. Osiris.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1044	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:39:00 - [58] - Quote Sy Vongrim wrote: So IMO if you are QQGÇÖing about a FPS when youGÇÖve been playing various ones for years without end, the problem is probably you, not the game. Stop playing so much. Go outside once and awhile. This is not to say that a game in BETA shouldnGÇÖt get criticism. ThereGÇÖs no way to get better without getting feedback from your client base, but IGÇÖd take it all with a grain of salt. If you really want a game to be better give CONSTRUCTIVE DETAILED things you think should be fixed, and then donGÇÖt place unreasonable expectations on a business to instantly gratify you by fixing them immediately. After being here a year and providing continuous CONSTRUCTIVE DETAILED FEEDBACK and seeing very little progress or new content I think we have the right to complain even if CCP calls this a beta. As I have said before CCP calls this a commercial release so they can take our money but will call it "beta" so they can ignore whats broke or wrong with the game. I barely play enough to hit my weekly sp cap so I get outside just fine
Sy Vongrim Imperial Bureau of Internal Security 1	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:43:00 - [59] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Sy Vongrim wrote: So IMO if you are QQGÇÖing about a FPS when youGÇÖve been playing various ones for years without end, the problem is probably you, not the game. Stop playing so much. Go outside once and awhile. This is not to say that a game in BETA shouldnGÇÖt get criticism. ThereGÇÖs no way to get better without getting feedback from your client base, but IGÇÖd take it all with a grain of salt. If you really want a game to be better give CONSTRUCTIVE DETAILED things you think should be fixed, and then donGÇÖt place unreasonable expectations on a business to instantly gratify you by fixing them immediately. After being here a year and providing continuous CONSTRUCTIVE DETAILED FEEDBACK and seeing very little progress or new content I think we have the right to complain even if CCP calls this a beta. As I have said before CCP calls this a commercial release so they can take our money but will call it "beta" so they can ignore whats broke or wrong with the game. I barely play enough to hit my weekly sp cap so I get outside just fine That's totally fair. I was generalizing not trying to pick anyone out.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 96	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:55:00 - [60] - Quote PASSIVE SP!!!! Go play something else. This game will be here. Might I suggest Ni No Kuni, the studio ghibli game? Or the new Devil May Cry? Like eve, this game will persist. Unlike Eve, PASSIVE SP!!! dioblo clone better than diablo 3

Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 201	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:58:00 - [61] - Quote CCp never called this a commercial release. Also I feel Sy is right that people are jaded on on this game but in general. This game has come a very long way. I remember when it was one map not grouping, no corps, no eve interaction at all, 3 dropsuits, etc. As I have said this game has just as many maps and guns as MW3 and it has more content in terms of skills leveling etc. Here is a plan for you. Leave the game and come back when it is out of beta. Your opinions and online time is not going to make or break the game. So leave and come back when you feel more comfortable about where the game is at. Deal? We will stay here and have fun playing the game.
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:58:00 - [62] - Quote If you keep giving the excuse that its a beta and accept it, then you allow this kind of attention constantly. They are doing decently, especially considering the many obstacles that come with ground breaking ideas. However, there has been no real changes, same maps different building placement. While its pretty its not enough to keep most players engaged. After you hit the cap its a grind honestly. There are no game mode varieties, kill em or kill em and capture, fun but gets silent quick. You have noobs facing vets regularly, kills their experience and sometimes results in them not playing at all. Several suggestions have been made regarding gameplay and ways to improve it and increase the post cap play value. They go unheeded however, probably because they are too busy, either way threads like this are the result. CCP i have alot of respect for what youre trying to do, but your players are getting bored, please add something new and exciting sooner rather then soon(tm)
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:58:00 - [63] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: You are correct. Because a beta is not a finished product. If I built you half a car and said it will be done soon, then you tried to drive it and it didn't work 100% would that be broken? No it would be unfinished. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend. What if this happened in your job (your meaning all the complainers like this) and said your unfinished product is broken? You would say well it's not broken it's just not finished yet. You don't have to STFU you need to wait till the product is in full release and then if these issues are still there it would be broken or a lie or how ever you want to phrase it. I don't like certain stores so I don't go there. I don't like sushi, I really had high hopes for sushi, but now that I taste it I don't like it, so guess what ? I don't eat it. Again with the car analogy? Really? After 8 months you people just dont learn do you? Ill keep it simple, if your car build der told you that they are "fixing details" on said car but when you check it out theiy dont even have the body ready and the engine halfway oh and no deadline? I think I have the right to be pissed as many many people. Another thing, if they told us that x,y and z features would be on the next build but for some reason Y got scrapped, yes people would question it but if the deves provides a legitimate and beliviable reason explain said scrap I think the comunity would be ok with it, or request that Y be on the build after that one if its a great feature that should be in the game, like lets say.. player market for example. Of course for the newberry who just got on the forums and started to play after the NDA is released its ******* easy to say "give it time its a beta STFU" yeah tell that to the people who had been playtesting this game for over a year "Its easy to donate when your pockets are full".
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 201	Posted - 2013.02.26 01:06:00 - [64] - Quote Rupture Reaperson wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: You are correct. Because a beta is not a finished product. If I built you half a car and said it will be done soon, then you tried to drive it and it didn't work 100% would that be broken? No it would be unfinished. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend. What if this happened in your job (your meaning all the complainers like this) and said your unfinished product is broken? You would say well it's not broken it's just not finished yet. You don't have to STFU you need to wait till the product is in full release and then if these issues are still there it would be broken or a lie or how ever you want to phrase it. I don't like certain stores so I don't go there. I don't like sushi, I really had high hopes for sushi, but now that I taste it I don't like it, so guess what ? I don't eat it. Again with the car analogy? Really? you people just dont learn do you? Ill keep it simple, if your car build der told you that they are "fixing details" on said car but when you check it out theiy dont even have the body ready and the engine halfway oh and no deadline? I think I have the right to be pissed as many many people. Another thing, if they told us that x,y and z features would be on the next build but for some reason Y got scrapped, yes people would question it but if the deves provides a legitimate and beliviable reason explain said scrap I think the comunity would be ok with it, or request that Y be on the build after that one if its a great feature that should be in the game, like lets say.. player market for example. Of course for the newberry who just got on the forums and started to play after the NDA is released its ******* easy to say "give it time its a beta STFU" yeah tell that to the people who had been playtesting this game for over a year "Its easy to donate when your pockets are full". My pockets are full. If you spend money on this then thats on you not CCP. And they never gave a release date I am not aware of? Because if not then they are technically on schedule because there is no release date. I',m not say STFu I'm saying if you don't like something then leave. That is the best way to teach a business a lesson. It is called the free market. You still do not explain why you are here if you don't like it. To me thats like going to the DMV because you believe it could be fun. And I have been here for a year, I left for a while and played borderlands for a good month, then I realized this game has bugs, this game has cheaters, this game doesn't have the legendary weapons I was promised. Then I played black ops and it froze constantly, had bugs, cheats, etc. Then I realized I paid 60 dollars for these games and dust asked nothing of me and gave me the same if not better experience.
Naustradamus Oracle Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2013.02.26 01:15:00 - [65] - Quote Without reading the entire thread, I'll also add here that yes, I have lost a lot of interest in playing the game though still check up on here every so often for patch notes and more. I know it's in beta, and even more, I know that connecting Dust 514 with Eve servers is a hard and delicate issue .... But I'll say this. I've been in many Beta's before ... some as the short 1 or 2 months to test the servers ... and others as longer lasting Beta's where full development was still in effect. And as of now, Dust 514 very much reminds me of the beging months of Playstation Home's beta (small history, the beta started, and after that, barely nothing was changed or added for over a year). Lots of work in the background that we mostly don't see, 1 or 2 new locations and a lot of re-arrangements of what is already currently available. I will add that I fear that Dust is falling in the same pitfalls as Home was. Early design decisions about the engine now causing major issues in latter production of the game, but it's already to far along to scrap and start again Or the other side of that thought, the goals of the game was too grand for the system in question and that there's no way to reach a well working version without reducing some aspects like level size, player counts, etc. 3rd, CCP may have simply released dust way to early, where what we are playing, is simply all they've developed up to now I might be completely wrong, but if so, I can't see why we aren't seeing more content released to us on a general basis. Even if the Dust / Eve connectivity doesn't progress as quickly (god knows how delicate they need to be not to crash the servers), content itself should. That's just my personal view on things ... Next patch could actually change a lot of things and add lots more content of maps, weapons and more ... but as it's going now, if this pace continues, I don't see myself playing Dust that much until it's official release, even maybe a year after. Either way, just like everything else when it comes to game development. Us players can only wait and see.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 153	Posted - 2013.02.26 02:17:00 - [66] - Quote Bald Crusader wrote: Because you won't toe the party line you'll be simply targeted by CCP for special treatment http://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY TL;DW - "I always feel like - somebody's waaaaaaatching meeeee!"
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.26 03:36:00 - [67] - Quote If people are getting bored, then why don't they just take a break? Comeback when the next build rolls around, or don't; it's up to you. As for the people who only play so that they don't miss out on their precious SP... really? I mean really? Yeah, no sh*t you're not having fun. Honestly guys, just take a break.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.26 03:40:00 - [68] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: My pockets are full. If you spend money on this then thats on you not CCP. And they never gave a release date I am not aware of? Because if not then they are technically on schedule because there is no release date. I',m not say STFu I'm saying if you don't like something then leave. That is the best way to teach a business a lesson. It is called the free market. You still do not explain why you are here if you don't like it. To me thats like going to the DMV because you believe it could be fun. And I have been here for a year, I left for a while and played borderlands for a good month, then I realized this game has bugs, this game has cheaters, this game doesn't have the legendary weapons I was promised. Then I played black ops and it froze constantly, had bugs, cheats, etc. Then I realized I paid 60 dollars for these games and dust asked nothing of me and gave me the same if not better experience. GREAT GREAT! WONDEROUS JOB at totally missng the ***** point of my analogy (which is even more hillarious considering that you just used one yourself) Ill spit it slowly for you to catch up: "its easy to donate when your pockets are full". > change money for patience. Ok even slower: "Its easy to ask for patience when you have not burnt yours expecting that the developers accomplish what they claim they will, patch after patch after patch" On the "if you dont like it then leave", yeah like in your case, oh boy you sure showed CCP you meant business right? Trust me if they ** up enough times to just level this game to scrap status, ill leave and wont come back as many, MANY people. Or just when my interest on the game flounders, whichever comes first.
Terram Nenokal BetaMax. 115	Posted - 2013.02.26 04:21:00 - [69] - Quote Didn't they just get back from vacation? We should be expecting some new blogs soon at least. Also take a break and come back. SP will be waiting.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.02.26 08:04:00 - [70] - Quote Free Beers wrote: It's pretty easy to stay within the rules really. I try to be constructive even when CCP needs a good bashing and thurogh beat down. Which I am happy to deliver on behalf of my fellow dust mercs. Where did I ever suggest you should go outside the rules? Go and a create a complaint thread on the EVE forums to give CCP a "good bashing and thurogh (sic) beat down". 1. Your thread will be closed as a rant. 2. If you complain you will be sanctioned. 3. Escalate and there will likely be retribution and further threats. "Rules" never come into play and it doesn't simply apply to the scenario above. What CCP say in public and what they do in private are two very different things. General Tiberius1 wrote: not yet, but the instant your toadies from the scope get in here to "moderate" expect a great deal of censorship I think people here will be genuinely shocked by the lengths CCP will go to in order to keep the community "on message".

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.02.26 15:00:00 - [71] - Quote in the same boat with OP
Joe1011phosfate Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 0	Posted - 2013.02.26 23:57:00 - [72] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy I dont know if you are genreally naive or just ignoring reality but these purchases of Merc packs and Aurum are what is paying for the show. Of which I have purches a good amount of. What you also dont realize is the time it takes to download and play this is free either. For those of us who dont stand in the unemployement line or hold our hands out for someone to pay our bills, we know the value of our time. What my goal here was to rally any like minded individuals that felt the same way. Not to achieve differing opinions. To read the heading and still post a difference of Opinion in here says a lot about the I.Q's CCP is attracting to this game.lol I like this game. All I was stating were reasons I dont LOVE this game. And a laundry list of excuses do not excuse faults, it simply covers them up. As I stated previously, if there aren't some major improvement by the next update which I hope to be soon, I will not be playing this anymore. Also all the recruiting I have been doing will be reversed naturally because I had to put a lot of effort into convincing people I normally play with that this game wasn't crap. Telling me to leave is just you further convincing me to stay so PRO can PWN you continuously until you stop playing.lol So again, is there anyone else losing interest in this game, at this point rapidly? I welcome all like minded people to join the conversation. All those who opposed this would just be wasting space and making yourselves look foolish.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die 11	Posted - 2013.02.27 00:07:00 - [73] - Quote I'm not bored but the point about the PS4 being released is very valid. Not to mention Planetside 2 on PS4, if that comes out I reckon DUST will be done, if you've played it on PC you'll know. Things have to change soon.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 93	Posted - 2013.02.27 03:18:00 - [74] - Quote JOE-PHOSPHATE wrote: I come from a long line of playing big name FPS games and I feel that there is a lot CCP is doing with interconnecting and all that, but its missing a lot of polish that most FPS games have. This is Black Ops(the first one) level graphics with 3% of the customization options. My suits all look the same and so do the weapons(minus a different color here and there). I mean an M16A4 looks different than a SCAR and thats the way it should be in game. The Gek looks the same as every other gun. There is a Creo Dron spec shotgun to purchase but if you pay attention, all of the shotguns say Creo Dron on them.lol this game is starting to look like what Activision was doing to True Crime where Square Enix turned it into an awesome game called Sleeping Dogs. So who will build this next?Bungie? They're too busy with Destiny, which looks to me being literally months behind developement on the time line but looks easily 6 years a head. Time to step it up guys. your right!!! it is missing a lot of things!!! for example that little message at the top of your screen 90% of the time, that "work in progress" thing just needs to go, or maybe they just need to fine tune it a little bit. change the font color to something like neon pink so morons are less likely to miss it :/ Vareity is coming dude, the next build is going to be a big one, and thats what im looking forward to right now, until then ill be grinding out my SP.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 76	Posted - 2013.02.27 03:26:00 - [75] - Quote They are lucky it's snowboard season or I might not play because I had the choice not to :)
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2013.02.27 03:47:00 - [76] - Quote Iv lost interest,everything around the game is awsome(setting,history,lore etc) but the actual gameplay just blows. I knows it's a beta but i hate having to stick around to see the finally product to see it didnt change much from beta,thanks for selling hope devs
Thog A Kuma Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 21	Posted - 2013.02.28 01:47:00 - [77] - Quote Every beta forum I've ever been in is like this. Next will be "It needed to stay in Beta longer it's missing 'x' " Then comes "This game is dying I know they are losing players like crazy" so it goes so it goes.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 455	Posted - 2013.02.28 01:54:00 - [78] - Quote Thog A Kuma wrote: Every beta forum I've ever been in is like this. Next will be "It needed to stay in Beta longer it's missing 'x' " Then comes "This game is dying I know they are losing players like crazy" so it goes so it goes. Actually the then comes part, looks like its happening first. Have you read the IGN live stream comments? Hopefully that's enough feedback for devs.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 111	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:02:00 - [79] - Quote Im getting annoyed Tanks are weak and if you dont want to solo it with milita AV then grind out an OB instead and kill it Dropships = useless HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach Missile turrets = useless Railguns range cap and travel time = why? Its just how it is atm for me
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:30:00 - [80] - Quote Game is in a pretty sad state. If CCP had an ace up their sleeve I would have figured they would have dropped it before the media "blitz". The patch/build/expansion is going to be another let down just like the past 4

Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 455	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:32:00 - [81] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Im getting annoyed Tanks are weak and if you dont want to solo it with milita AV then grind out an OB instead and kill it Dropships = useless HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach Missile turrets = useless Railguns range cap and travel time = why? Its just how it is atm for me +1 +1 +1 +1 I love you(all homo) Someone that finally gets it.
Freyar Tarkin Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 95	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:42:00 - [82] - Quote There's got to be a worthwhile reward, even if the SP cap is hit every week for people to stay.
The Cobra Commander D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N 5	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:56:00 - [83] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Im getting annoyed Tanks are weak and if you dont want to solo it with milita AV then grind out an OB instead and kill it Dropships = useless HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach Missile turrets = useless Railguns range cap and travel time = why? Its just how it is atm for me +100
Jack Of Evermore KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.02.28 03:21:00 - [84] - Quote Frustration can only grow between updates and already the longest standing players seem to already be on a slow boil. But to be truly honest does anyone reading these forms think CCP is unaware of that fact? Any entertainment company has had to balance every move they make. Move too fast and you release a half baked product that is picked apart by the gaming community and forgotten or is in need of endless and costly updates to a product already fallen from grace. Move too slow and you will be out striped by other developers and in the case of open Beta lose interest in the finish product and will never turn a profit. There is no doubt in my mind CCP has an internal timetable that has been hammered out in endless meetings and conference calls. That is how a business is run. The input we have here can influence that timetable but not re-wright it. Is there anyone here that thinks CCP has the full dust 514 game built and running stable on gold plated PS3s paid for by starter pack profits which they play nightly loling at us and our lack of features and game types? No? Me nether. They know the tipping point is coming where they know that they will lose good players and there supportive influence. They are no strangers to what happens when the promise more then they deliver or delay too long. (WiS, truth be told they lost me then and it still stings. Dust is what MAY pull me back.) Slow and steady CCP... Just not too slow.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 245	Posted - 2013.02.28 03:35:00 - [85] - Quote Many of my friends have already lost interest ... Only a few passionate people still plays this game...
Bogon Vdemotch Expert Intervention Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.02.28 04:32:00 - [86] - Quote I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development.
Barnabas Wrex Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 149	Posted - 2013.02.28 05:55:00 - [87] - Quote Bogon Vdemotch wrote: I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development. I see your opinion and I respect it. I know this is the same excuse used over and over again, but c'mon, it's a beta. We're lucky that we even get a chance to play it... For free. If you want to compare this to a release of a full retail game, I suggest you wait until the game is out of beta.
Syther Shadows CowTek 11	Posted - 2013.02.28 06:12:00 - [88] - Quote oh look another one of these threads
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 196	Posted - 2013.02.28 06:23:00 - [89] - Quote Anyone know a John Lydgate quote?
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 887	Posted - 2013.02.28 07:42:00 - [90] - Quote Barnabas Wrex wrote: Bogon Vdemotch wrote: I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development. I see your opinion and I respect it. I know this is the same excuse used over and over again, but c'mon, it's a beta. We're lucky that we even get a chance to play it... For free. If you want to compare this to a release of a full retail game, I suggest you wait until the game is out of beta. guild wars 2 only let people play for 1 weekend a month and it was far more finished than this game is. That was 6 months before release mind you. Games are hard to make, but the issue is CCP is acting like it's release with tons of stuff to by when dropsuits might get a total rewrite soon. Where is the dev blogs? Where is the roadmap? It's way to quiet , I'm actully truly for the 1st time worried about this game making it :/ Maybe they are desperate for funds?

skinn trayde On The Brink 84	Posted - 2013.02.28 08:13:00 - [91] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: Anyone know a John Lydgate quote? wut? this one valid enough for the thread? John Lydgate wrote: In war, hunting, and love, Men for one pleasure a thousand griefs prove.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.02.28 10:08:00 - [92] - Quote JOE-PHOSPHATE wrote: I come from a long line of playing big name FPS games and I feel that there is a lot CCP is doing with interconnecting and all that, but its missing a lot of polish that most FPS games have. This is Black Ops(the first one) level graphics with 3% of the customization options. My suits all look the same and so do the weapons(minus a different color here and there). I mean an M16A4 looks different than a SCAR and thats the way it should be in game. The Gek looks the same as every other gun. There is a Creo Dron spec shotgun to purchase but if you pay attention, all of the shotguns say Creo Dron on them.lol this game is starting to look like what Activision was doing to True Crime where Square Enix turned it into an awesome game called Sleeping Dogs. So who will build this next?Bungie? They're too busy with Destiny, which looks to me being literally months behind developement on the time line but looks easily 6 years a head. Time to step it up guys. i am not losing interest. i find other fps's passe
Thog A Kuma Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 21	Posted - 2013.02.28 13:20:00 - [93] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Im getting annoyed ...\|snip\|... HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach ...\|snip\|... Its just how it is atm for me so all you see are HMG heavies and all you see are Snipers and all you see are Mass Drivers and all you see are GEK lol
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 116	Posted - 2013.02.28 13:59:00 - [94] - Quote Thog A Kuma wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Im getting annoyed ...\|snip\|... HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach ...\|snip\|... Its just how it is atm for me so all you see are HMG heavies and all you see are Snipers and all you see are Mass Drivers and all you see are GEK lol Majority of games yea 1 game all heavys, others is just snipers if all the heavys lose or they may all come out with GEKs
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.28 17:32:00 - [95] - Quote Barnabas Wrex wrote: Bogon Vdemotch wrote: I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development. I see your opinion and I respect it. I know this is the same excuse used over and over again, but c'mon, it's a beta. We're lucky that we even get a chance to play it... For free. If you want to compare this to a release of a full retail game, I suggest you wait until the game is out of beta. A beta with 3+ years of planning and almost a year of testing... that still feels like an alpha 0.7. Yes it is free but so are mmos and they still get trashed if their core mechanincs fail to deliver. Just adding the counterpoint to it. And yes, ******* everyone running with a gek, wtf.


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