DUST Search - Am I the only one losing interest here?

Rupture Reaperson wrote:

Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:

You are correct. Because a beta is not a finished product. If I built you half a car and said it will be done soon, then you tried to drive it and it didn't work 100% would that be broken? No it would be unfinished. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend. What if this happened in your job (your meaning all the complainers like this) and said your unfinished product is broken? You would say well it's not broken it's just not finished yet. You don't have to STFU you need to wait till the product is in full release and then if these issues are still there it would be broken or a lie or how ever you want to phrase it. I don't like certain stores so I don't go there. I don't like sushi, I really had high hopes for sushi, but now that I taste it I don't like it, so guess what ? I don't eat it.

Again with the car analogy? Really? you people just dont learn do you?
Ill keep it simple, if your car build der told you that they are "fixing details" on said car but when you check it out theiy dont even have the body ready and the engine halfway oh and no deadline? I think I have the right to be pissed as many many people.

Another thing, if they told us that x,y and z features would be on the next build but for some reason Y got scrapped, yes people would question it but if the deves provides a legitimate and beliviable reason explain said scrap I think the comunity would be ok with it, or request that Y be on the build after that one if its a great feature that should be in the game, like lets say.. player market for example.

Of course for the newberry who just got on the forums and started to play after the NDA is released its ******* easy to say "give it time its a beta STFU" yeah tell that to the people who had been playtesting this game for over a year "Its easy to donate when your pockets are full".

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Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 201	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:58:00 - [61] - Quote CCp never called this a commercial release. Also I feel Sy is right that people are jaded on on this game but in general. This game has come a very long way. I remember when it was one map not grouping, no corps, no eve interaction at all, 3 dropsuits, etc. As I have said this game has just as many maps and guns as MW3 and it has more content in terms of skills leveling etc. Here is a plan for you. Leave the game and come back when it is out of beta. Your opinions and online time is not going to make or break the game. So leave and come back when you feel more comfortable about where the game is at. Deal? We will stay here and have fun playing the game.
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:58:00 - [62] - Quote If you keep giving the excuse that its a beta and accept it, then you allow this kind of attention constantly. They are doing decently, especially considering the many obstacles that come with ground breaking ideas. However, there has been no real changes, same maps different building placement. While its pretty its not enough to keep most players engaged. After you hit the cap its a grind honestly. There are no game mode varieties, kill em or kill em and capture, fun but gets silent quick. You have noobs facing vets regularly, kills their experience and sometimes results in them not playing at all. Several suggestions have been made regarding gameplay and ways to improve it and increase the post cap play value. They go unheeded however, probably because they are too busy, either way threads like this are the result. CCP i have alot of respect for what youre trying to do, but your players are getting bored, please add something new and exciting sooner rather then soon(tm)
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.26 00:58:00 - [63] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: You are correct. Because a beta is not a finished product. If I built you half a car and said it will be done soon, then you tried to drive it and it didn't work 100% would that be broken? No it would be unfinished. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend. What if this happened in your job (your meaning all the complainers like this) and said your unfinished product is broken? You would say well it's not broken it's just not finished yet. You don't have to STFU you need to wait till the product is in full release and then if these issues are still there it would be broken or a lie or how ever you want to phrase it. I don't like certain stores so I don't go there. I don't like sushi, I really had high hopes for sushi, but now that I taste it I don't like it, so guess what ? I don't eat it. Again with the car analogy? Really? After 8 months you people just dont learn do you? Ill keep it simple, if your car build der told you that they are "fixing details" on said car but when you check it out theiy dont even have the body ready and the engine halfway oh and no deadline? I think I have the right to be pissed as many many people. Another thing, if they told us that x,y and z features would be on the next build but for some reason Y got scrapped, yes people would question it but if the deves provides a legitimate and beliviable reason explain said scrap I think the comunity would be ok with it, or request that Y be on the build after that one if its a great feature that should be in the game, like lets say.. player market for example. Of course for the newberry who just got on the forums and started to play after the NDA is released its ******* easy to say "give it time its a beta STFU" yeah tell that to the people who had been playtesting this game for over a year "Its easy to donate when your pockets are full".
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 201	Posted - 2013.02.26 01:06:00 - [64] - Quote Rupture Reaperson wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: You are correct. Because a beta is not a finished product. If I built you half a car and said it will be done soon, then you tried to drive it and it didn't work 100% would that be broken? No it would be unfinished. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend. What if this happened in your job (your meaning all the complainers like this) and said your unfinished product is broken? You would say well it's not broken it's just not finished yet. You don't have to STFU you need to wait till the product is in full release and then if these issues are still there it would be broken or a lie or how ever you want to phrase it. I don't like certain stores so I don't go there. I don't like sushi, I really had high hopes for sushi, but now that I taste it I don't like it, so guess what ? I don't eat it. Again with the car analogy? Really? you people just dont learn do you? Ill keep it simple, if your car build der told you that they are "fixing details" on said car but when you check it out theiy dont even have the body ready and the engine halfway oh and no deadline? I think I have the right to be pissed as many many people. Another thing, if they told us that x,y and z features would be on the next build but for some reason Y got scrapped, yes people would question it but if the deves provides a legitimate and beliviable reason explain said scrap I think the comunity would be ok with it, or request that Y be on the build after that one if its a great feature that should be in the game, like lets say.. player market for example. Of course for the newberry who just got on the forums and started to play after the NDA is released its ******* easy to say "give it time its a beta STFU" yeah tell that to the people who had been playtesting this game for over a year "Its easy to donate when your pockets are full". My pockets are full. If you spend money on this then thats on you not CCP. And they never gave a release date I am not aware of? Because if not then they are technically on schedule because there is no release date. I',m not say STFu I'm saying if you don't like something then leave. That is the best way to teach a business a lesson. It is called the free market. You still do not explain why you are here if you don't like it. To me thats like going to the DMV because you believe it could be fun. And I have been here for a year, I left for a while and played borderlands for a good month, then I realized this game has bugs, this game has cheaters, this game doesn't have the legendary weapons I was promised. Then I played black ops and it froze constantly, had bugs, cheats, etc. Then I realized I paid 60 dollars for these games and dust asked nothing of me and gave me the same if not better experience.
Naustradamus Oracle Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2013.02.26 01:15:00 - [65] - Quote Without reading the entire thread, I'll also add here that yes, I have lost a lot of interest in playing the game though still check up on here every so often for patch notes and more. I know it's in beta, and even more, I know that connecting Dust 514 with Eve servers is a hard and delicate issue .... But I'll say this. I've been in many Beta's before ... some as the short 1 or 2 months to test the servers ... and others as longer lasting Beta's where full development was still in effect. And as of now, Dust 514 very much reminds me of the beging months of Playstation Home's beta (small history, the beta started, and after that, barely nothing was changed or added for over a year). Lots of work in the background that we mostly don't see, 1 or 2 new locations and a lot of re-arrangements of what is already currently available. I will add that I fear that Dust is falling in the same pitfalls as Home was. Early design decisions about the engine now causing major issues in latter production of the game, but it's already to far along to scrap and start again Or the other side of that thought, the goals of the game was too grand for the system in question and that there's no way to reach a well working version without reducing some aspects like level size, player counts, etc. 3rd, CCP may have simply released dust way to early, where what we are playing, is simply all they've developed up to now I might be completely wrong, but if so, I can't see why we aren't seeing more content released to us on a general basis. Even if the Dust / Eve connectivity doesn't progress as quickly (god knows how delicate they need to be not to crash the servers), content itself should. That's just my personal view on things ... Next patch could actually change a lot of things and add lots more content of maps, weapons and more ... but as it's going now, if this pace continues, I don't see myself playing Dust that much until it's official release, even maybe a year after. Either way, just like everything else when it comes to game development. Us players can only wait and see.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 153	Posted - 2013.02.26 02:17:00 - [66] - Quote Bald Crusader wrote: Because you won't toe the party line you'll be simply targeted by CCP for special treatment http://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY TL;DW - "I always feel like - somebody's waaaaaaatching meeeee!"
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.26 03:36:00 - [67] - Quote If people are getting bored, then why don't they just take a break? Comeback when the next build rolls around, or don't; it's up to you. As for the people who only play so that they don't miss out on their precious SP... really? I mean really? Yeah, no sh*t you're not having fun. Honestly guys, just take a break.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.02.26 03:40:00 - [68] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: My pockets are full. If you spend money on this then thats on you not CCP. And they never gave a release date I am not aware of? Because if not then they are technically on schedule because there is no release date. I',m not say STFu I'm saying if you don't like something then leave. That is the best way to teach a business a lesson. It is called the free market. You still do not explain why you are here if you don't like it. To me thats like going to the DMV because you believe it could be fun. And I have been here for a year, I left for a while and played borderlands for a good month, then I realized this game has bugs, this game has cheaters, this game doesn't have the legendary weapons I was promised. Then I played black ops and it froze constantly, had bugs, cheats, etc. Then I realized I paid 60 dollars for these games and dust asked nothing of me and gave me the same if not better experience. GREAT GREAT! WONDEROUS JOB at totally missng the ***** point of my analogy (which is even more hillarious considering that you just used one yourself) Ill spit it slowly for you to catch up: "its easy to donate when your pockets are full". > change money for patience. Ok even slower: "Its easy to ask for patience when you have not burnt yours expecting that the developers accomplish what they claim they will, patch after patch after patch" On the "if you dont like it then leave", yeah like in your case, oh boy you sure showed CCP you meant business right? Trust me if they ** up enough times to just level this game to scrap status, ill leave and wont come back as many, MANY people. Or just when my interest on the game flounders, whichever comes first.
Terram Nenokal BetaMax. 115	Posted - 2013.02.26 04:21:00 - [69] - Quote Didn't they just get back from vacation? We should be expecting some new blogs soon at least. Also take a break and come back. SP will be waiting.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.02.26 08:04:00 - [70] - Quote Free Beers wrote: It's pretty easy to stay within the rules really. I try to be constructive even when CCP needs a good bashing and thurogh beat down. Which I am happy to deliver on behalf of my fellow dust mercs. Where did I ever suggest you should go outside the rules? Go and a create a complaint thread on the EVE forums to give CCP a "good bashing and thurogh (sic) beat down". 1. Your thread will be closed as a rant. 2. If you complain you will be sanctioned. 3. Escalate and there will likely be retribution and further threats. "Rules" never come into play and it doesn't simply apply to the scenario above. What CCP say in public and what they do in private are two very different things. General Tiberius1 wrote: not yet, but the instant your toadies from the scope get in here to "moderate" expect a great deal of censorship I think people here will be genuinely shocked by the lengths CCP will go to in order to keep the community "on message".

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.02.26 15:00:00 - [71] - Quote in the same boat with OP
Joe1011phosfate Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 0	Posted - 2013.02.26 23:57:00 - [72] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy I dont know if you are genreally naive or just ignoring reality but these purchases of Merc packs and Aurum are what is paying for the show. Of which I have purches a good amount of. What you also dont realize is the time it takes to download and play this is free either. For those of us who dont stand in the unemployement line or hold our hands out for someone to pay our bills, we know the value of our time. What my goal here was to rally any like minded individuals that felt the same way. Not to achieve differing opinions. To read the heading and still post a difference of Opinion in here says a lot about the I.Q's CCP is attracting to this game.lol I like this game. All I was stating were reasons I dont LOVE this game. And a laundry list of excuses do not excuse faults, it simply covers them up. As I stated previously, if there aren't some major improvement by the next update which I hope to be soon, I will not be playing this anymore. Also all the recruiting I have been doing will be reversed naturally because I had to put a lot of effort into convincing people I normally play with that this game wasn't crap. Telling me to leave is just you further convincing me to stay so PRO can PWN you continuously until you stop playing.lol So again, is there anyone else losing interest in this game, at this point rapidly? I welcome all like minded people to join the conversation. All those who opposed this would just be wasting space and making yourselves look foolish.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die 11	Posted - 2013.02.27 00:07:00 - [73] - Quote I'm not bored but the point about the PS4 being released is very valid. Not to mention Planetside 2 on PS4, if that comes out I reckon DUST will be done, if you've played it on PC you'll know. Things have to change soon.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 93	Posted - 2013.02.27 03:18:00 - [74] - Quote JOE-PHOSPHATE wrote: I come from a long line of playing big name FPS games and I feel that there is a lot CCP is doing with interconnecting and all that, but its missing a lot of polish that most FPS games have. This is Black Ops(the first one) level graphics with 3% of the customization options. My suits all look the same and so do the weapons(minus a different color here and there). I mean an M16A4 looks different than a SCAR and thats the way it should be in game. The Gek looks the same as every other gun. There is a Creo Dron spec shotgun to purchase but if you pay attention, all of the shotguns say Creo Dron on them.lol this game is starting to look like what Activision was doing to True Crime where Square Enix turned it into an awesome game called Sleeping Dogs. So who will build this next?Bungie? They're too busy with Destiny, which looks to me being literally months behind developement on the time line but looks easily 6 years a head. Time to step it up guys. your right!!! it is missing a lot of things!!! for example that little message at the top of your screen 90% of the time, that "work in progress" thing just needs to go, or maybe they just need to fine tune it a little bit. change the font color to something like neon pink so morons are less likely to miss it :/ Vareity is coming dude, the next build is going to be a big one, and thats what im looking forward to right now, until then ill be grinding out my SP.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 76	Posted - 2013.02.27 03:26:00 - [75] - Quote They are lucky it's snowboard season or I might not play because I had the choice not to :)
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2013.02.27 03:47:00 - [76] - Quote Iv lost interest,everything around the game is awsome(setting,history,lore etc) but the actual gameplay just blows. I knows it's a beta but i hate having to stick around to see the finally product to see it didnt change much from beta,thanks for selling hope devs
Thog A Kuma Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 21	Posted - 2013.02.28 01:47:00 - [77] - Quote Every beta forum I've ever been in is like this. Next will be "It needed to stay in Beta longer it's missing 'x' " Then comes "This game is dying I know they are losing players like crazy" so it goes so it goes.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 455	Posted - 2013.02.28 01:54:00 - [78] - Quote Thog A Kuma wrote: Every beta forum I've ever been in is like this. Next will be "It needed to stay in Beta longer it's missing 'x' " Then comes "This game is dying I know they are losing players like crazy" so it goes so it goes. Actually the then comes part, looks like its happening first. Have you read the IGN live stream comments? Hopefully that's enough feedback for devs.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 111	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:02:00 - [79] - Quote Im getting annoyed Tanks are weak and if you dont want to solo it with milita AV then grind out an OB instead and kill it Dropships = useless HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach Missile turrets = useless Railguns range cap and travel time = why? Its just how it is atm for me
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:30:00 - [80] - Quote Game is in a pretty sad state. If CCP had an ace up their sleeve I would have figured they would have dropped it before the media "blitz". The patch/build/expansion is going to be another let down just like the past 4

Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 455	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:32:00 - [81] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Im getting annoyed Tanks are weak and if you dont want to solo it with milita AV then grind out an OB instead and kill it Dropships = useless HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach Missile turrets = useless Railguns range cap and travel time = why? Its just how it is atm for me +1 +1 +1 +1 I love you(all homo) Someone that finally gets it.
Freyar Tarkin Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 95	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:42:00 - [82] - Quote There's got to be a worthwhile reward, even if the SP cap is hit every week for people to stay.
The Cobra Commander D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N 5	Posted - 2013.02.28 02:56:00 - [83] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Im getting annoyed Tanks are weak and if you dont want to solo it with milita AV then grind out an OB instead and kill it Dropships = useless HMG has more range than an AR, all i see is heavys Snipers back at the redline just pot shotting and being useless but will always hit you Mass drivers at point blank yet they take no damage plus they have more splash than small missiles GEKs all around, only gun i see no variety at all since all other AR are gimped ie tac and breach Missile turrets = useless Railguns range cap and travel time = why? Its just how it is atm for me +100
Jack Of Evermore KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.02.28 03:21:00 - [84] - Quote Frustration can only grow between updates and already the longest standing players seem to already be on a slow boil. But to be truly honest does anyone reading these forms think CCP is unaware of that fact? Any entertainment company has had to balance every move they make. Move too fast and you release a half baked product that is picked apart by the gaming community and forgotten or is in need of endless and costly updates to a product already fallen from grace. Move too slow and you will be out striped by other developers and in the case of open Beta lose interest in the finish product and will never turn a profit. There is no doubt in my mind CCP has an internal timetable that has been hammered out in endless meetings and conference calls. That is how a business is run. The input we have here can influence that timetable but not re-wright it. Is there anyone here that thinks CCP has the full dust 514 game built and running stable on gold plated PS3s paid for by starter pack profits which they play nightly loling at us and our lack of features and game types? No? Me nether. They know the tipping point is coming where they know that they will lose good players and there supportive influence. They are no strangers to what happens when the promise more then they deliver or delay too long. (WiS, truth be told they lost me then and it still stings. Dust is what MAY pull me back.) Slow and steady CCP... Just not too slow.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 245	Posted - 2013.02.28 03:35:00 - [85] - Quote Many of my friends have already lost interest ... Only a few passionate people still plays this game...
Bogon Vdemotch Expert Intervention Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.02.28 04:32:00 - [86] - Quote I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development.
Barnabas Wrex Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 149	Posted - 2013.02.28 05:55:00 - [87] - Quote Bogon Vdemotch wrote: I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development. I see your opinion and I respect it. I know this is the same excuse used over and over again, but c'mon, it's a beta. We're lucky that we even get a chance to play it... For free. If you want to compare this to a release of a full retail game, I suggest you wait until the game is out of beta.
Syther Shadows CowTek 11	Posted - 2013.02.28 06:12:00 - [88] - Quote oh look another one of these threads
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 196	Posted - 2013.02.28 06:23:00 - [89] - Quote Anyone know a John Lydgate quote?
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 887	Posted - 2013.02.28 07:42:00 - [90] - Quote Barnabas Wrex wrote: Bogon Vdemotch wrote: I came in in the PS+ wave. I then paid for a merc pack because I was sold on the concept. So far there's been an all around failure to execute. The basic game is a vanilla modern shooter with sci fi trappings, adding exactly 0% new ideas. Gameplay currently mimics the worst aspects of MAG without anything that made that game fun. There's a lot of talk about EVE interaction and a real market governed by economic principles, but I'm gonna say "who cares?" when core gameplay is a mess. I know there's plenty of EVEers ready to excommunicate any heretic who dares express disappointment, but I've given this game more than a fair shake. It's a mess. I'll tough it out for one more build and see from there, but at this point the flaws seem to run down to the core concepts driving development. I see your opinion and I respect it. I know this is the same excuse used over and over again, but c'mon, it's a beta. We're lucky that we even get a chance to play it... For free. If you want to compare this to a release of a full retail game, I suggest you wait until the game is out of beta. guild wars 2 only let people play for 1 weekend a month and it was far more finished than this game is. That was 6 months before release mind you. Games are hard to make, but the issue is CCP is acting like it's release with tons of stuff to by when dropsuits might get a total rewrite soon. Where is the dev blogs? Where is the roadmap? It's way to quiet , I'm actully truly for the 1st time worried about this game making it :/ Maybe they are desperate for funds?



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