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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.02.24 10:25:00 -
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slap26 wrote:The PS fired from the warbarge eliminates the need to have an EVE buddy dropping the rain. (The only working link between EVE and Dust ATM)
I feel like this strike shouldn't be available and if you want to drop a strike in you need somebody in orbit.
Or if you want to keep your anti-social strike it needs to be nerfed. It is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to effective for a free strike. Na, I'm happy enough with them. Anyway, the mechanic is just a place holder till later in development. When we own our own MCCs and Warbarges, it'll be our commander sending them in. Maybe increase the present requirement of 2500 wps per strike till full implementation, but leave the 1 sec warning alone. This is war, no hand holding allowed, or required. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.24 10:31:00 -
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i support this.
because that would eliminate the only thing that alphas my tank on pubs |
Buzzin Fr0g
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:17:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:I would like to note, that on the 4 object map (can't think of the name right now) that OBs go through the buildings that cover objectives C and D. I witnessed it a few days ago, and then last night in a queue sync match. Hollow roof? Not much to hide under. Yeah, it's broken on that particular map right now. The roofs used to protect you, but for some reason they don't any longer. Other roofs do, but not those two. I remember running to hide underneath and cheering because I made it only to die and scream, WHAAAT?!?!?! RARGH. I am assuming it's a bug and not WAD.
It's also broken on Skim Junction. The tallest building adjacent to C allows orbitals to drop through to the foundation. I was bewildered when I called the strike on snipers and their drop uplink, only to see the rounds pass right through the roof to impact at the base of the tower taking out none the opposition or their assets. |
Garrett Whetshaft
Hateful Munitions
31
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Posted - 2013.02.24 13:03:00 -
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yeah that's right :P You should be able to OUTRUN or get a WARNING about an imminent OB.
LOL you guys want to take the danger/risk away?
It's laughable to think that if you hear the siren you should have a chance to survive. Think about it. Unless you are just QQ because you keep getting owned by OB there is no reason to call for NERF
fml - If you hear the noise - You are DEAD. |
Garrett Whetshaft
Hateful Munitions
31
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Posted - 2013.02.24 13:05:00 -
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Also on what planet is the OB free.
Your Squad must earn the WP so it is in no way "Free" |
The Medic Droid
Quiet Star Enterprise
7
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Posted - 2013.02.24 13:46:00 -
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I'd much rather see a nerf on the Mass Driver splash damage radius.
Orbital Strikes, while fatal, are usually a one-per-squad thing. (Two or three if you're in a good one)
From my experience; people lose more tanks to Demolitionists' mines, swarm launchers, and forge guns than they do to Orbitals. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
373
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:06:00 -
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The Medic Droid wrote:I'd much rather see a nerf on the Mass Driver splash damage radius.
Orbital Strikes, while fatal, are usually a one-per-squad thing. (Two or three if you're in a good one)
From my experience; people lose more tanks to Demolitionists' mines, swarm launchers, and forge guns than they do to Orbitals. If you knew anything about mass drivers you would know increasing the splash radius can be a double edged sword, much like increasing the sharpshooter skill for LR's, but lets not go off topic, tankers need to stop qq'ing about PS and HTFU |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
109
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:47:00 -
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precision strikes are fine.
it's you guys that are broken.
the devs can't patch you.
Peace B |
N1ck Comeau
REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:52:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:There is nothing wrong with the mechanic as is. I like how it comes down and looks all cool and stuff. and it's not overpowered its a fun game mechanic. you hear one come in and your just like **** and then you run away and barley live. It doesn't need to be changed |
Denak Kalamari
CrimeWave Syndicate
80
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:54:00 -
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If you haven't heard, CCP has plans of removing orbital strikes from nullsec space and from corp battles. To me that is good enough, since instant battles are irrelevant anyway.
EDIT: Warbarge orbital strikes, that is. |
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
82
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:08:00 -
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I would like people to invest SP to be able to call orbital strikes. Everything else takes effort and sp investment on this game, except calling orbitals, which doesn-Št make much sense.
I would like to see a maybe x3 skill called "Off map support", which decreased the ammount of WP required for an orbital strike by a % per level, for example.
You should need it at least at level 1 to call an OS for around 3000-3500 WP, and at level 5 you should be able to call orbital strikes with the amount of WP they require now, which is 2500, I think.
And that's it. I would not change the mechanics of the OS itself (Damage, area, warning time). I don-Št like dying or losing vehicles to them, but then, I never do.
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slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:08:00 -
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Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
373
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:18:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:26:00 -
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gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get.
Make it a SP sink then, Flyingconejo had a good idea for it. And how is the npc different then a person shooting a planet?
By that logic we shouldn't even have Precision Strikes in pubbies, (I would be fine with that)
Basically what you are saying is I didn't spec into AV and I don't want to lose my crutch. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
373
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:32:00 -
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slap26 wrote:gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get. Make it a SP sink then, Flyingconejo had a good idea for it. And how is the npc different then a person shooting a planet? By that logic we shouldn't even have Precision Strikes in pubbies, (I would be fine with that) Basically what you are saying is I didn't spec into AV and I don't want to lose my crutch. What I'm saying is that I've put a minimal amount of sp into AV so I do some damage and I can easily lose my dropship to a couple of swarms or forge gun hit, so watching tankers qq about dying after being shot from space doesn't hold much weight.
And before you say anything else I know that you're acting incredibly biased towards your vehicles, we all do it to some extent. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:39:00 -
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gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get. Make it a SP sink then, Flyingconejo had a good idea for it. And how is the npc different then a person shooting a planet? By that logic we shouldn't even have Precision Strikes in pubbies, (I would be fine with that) Basically what you are saying is I didn't spec into AV and I don't want to lose my crutch. What I'm saying is that I've put a minimal amount of sp into AV so I do some damage and I can easily lose my dropship to a couple of swarms or forge gun hit, so watching tankers qq about dying after being shot from space doesn't hold much weight. And before you say anything else I know that you're acting incredibly biased towards your vehicles, we all do it to some extent.
At least when I get killed by a forge I know the guy at least had to aim and out play me. Swarms with their LOL lock on are a no skill weapon but atleast someone had to put SP into to be effective. The Free PS is a no skill no SP broken game mechanic and needs to be looked at.
And I commend you for still flying dropships after the only turret that could effectively protect them was nerfed into oblivion.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
373
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:48:00 -
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slap26 wrote:gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get. Make it a SP sink then, Flyingconejo had a good idea for it. And how is the npc different then a person shooting a planet? By that logic we shouldn't even have Precision Strikes in pubbies, (I would be fine with that) Basically what you are saying is I didn't spec into AV and I don't want to lose my crutch. What I'm saying is that I've put a minimal amount of sp into AV so I do some damage and I can easily lose my dropship to a couple of swarms or forge gun hit, so watching tankers qq about dying after being shot from space doesn't hold much weight. And before you say anything else I know that you're acting incredibly biased towards your vehicles, we all do it to some extent. At least when I get killed by a forge I know the guy at least had to aim and out play me. Swarms with their LOL lock on are a no skill weapon but atleast someone had to put SP into to be effective. The Free PS is a no skill no SP broken game mechanic and needs to be looked at. And I commend you for still flying dropships after the only turret that could effectively protect them was nerfed into oblivion. Flying is way too much fun to give up
But back to the topic.
I'm sure you must have ended up in pub matches where you have enemy tanks rolling around destroying everything, and every time you start doing significant damage to them they fall back out of range or out of LOS to rep and regen shields, it's times like that the PS is needed otherwise the whole cycle will repeat or you need to get enough of your team going AV that enemy infantry just annihilate you. In my opinion PS exists to make tankers seriously consider the risk of calling in a tank knowing they might lose it to something that offers them next to no chance of survival, unlike current AV systems. |
Cat Poo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
62
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Posted - 2013.02.24 16:30:00 -
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I can't wait til we can use something other than one of the smallest ships in eve. I'm turgid thinking about the possibility of using my seige moros on you FAPFAPFAPFAP. |
Tryhard514
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
111
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Posted - 2013.02.24 16:50:00 -
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I don't think we should get rid of OBs, but make it much harder to get. Lets be honest, with a squad of 4 people it is impossible not to get an OB. That's just ********, when in a squad of 4 we normally get 3-4 OB a game. Make the amount of WP needed for an OB proportional to the number in the squad, and actually make them a challenge to get.
Handing out free OBs sounds like some CallofDuty514
btw, 100% AR player here |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:18:00 -
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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:25:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free?
Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too?
The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500. |
Tryhard514
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
111
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:33:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500.
That's the problem, you said by teams that were good enough to earn them. Anyone can get an OB, it's the easiest thing to do, I can get them solo. They are way to easy to get. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:40:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500.
When squaded up we earn 3-5 OB's a game...
All I hear from you is please don't take away my get rid of tank button, because I didn't spec into AV
You should have to spec into the ability to call in a Free OB |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:44:00 -
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Tryhard514 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500. That's the problem, you said by teams that were good enough to earn them. Anyone can get an OB, it's the easiest thing to do, I can get them solo. They are way to easy to get.
Which is why I'm calling for a WP increase to call them in, I said 500 but even a 1000 WP Increase to 3500 per OB would be acceptable in my book.
If you want to go the increase each OB Called in by 500 WP. Make it so that it applies to the whole team. For example-
Squad 1 and 2 have both earned 3000 WP and are ready to call in an OB. Squad 1 calls in OB. Squad 2 loses current OB and must now earn another 500 WP to call in OB. Squad 1 now needs to earn 4000 WP to call in their next OB.
Hope that made sense. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:51:00 -
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slap26 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500. When squaded up we earn 3-5 OB's a game... All I hear from you is please don't take away my get rid of tank button, because I didn't spec into AV You should have to spec into the ability to call in a Free OB
Again your issue with OB'sare it's AV capabilities. Sorry but that's not even an issue. OB's should be more than capable of taking out tanks. OB's are meant to take out everything in it's proximity on the ground, your tank is nothing special to be excused from this mechanic. Even if they did make it a skill to call in OB's, every squad leader would obviously be skilled in it and you'd be right back here again QQing in another thread because your tanks will still be taken out. |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:53:00 -
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slap26 wrote:The PS fired from the warbarge eliminates the need to have an EVE buddy dropping the rain. (The only working link between EVE and Dust ATM)
I feel like this strike shouldn't be available and if you want to drop a strike in you need somebody in orbit.
Or if you want to keep your anti-social strike it needs to be nerfed. It is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to effective for a free strike.
It's not free...2500 WP needs to be accumulated before its awarded. But I'm sure you knew that.....
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
373
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:55:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Tryhard514 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500. That's the problem, you said by teams that were good enough to earn them. Anyone can get an OB, it's the easiest thing to do, I can get them solo. They are way to easy to get. Which is why I'm calling for a WP increase to call them in, I said 500 but even a 1000 WP Increase to 3500 per OB would be acceptable in my book. If you want to go the increase each OB Called in by 500 WP. Make it so that it applies to the whole team. For example- Squad 1 and 2 have both earned 3000 WP and are ready to call in an OB. Squad 1 calls in OB. Squad 2 loses current OB and must now earn another 500 WP to call in OB. Squad 1 now needs to earn 4000 WP to call in their next OB. Hope that made sense. I get what you mean, but the problem with that is that it would make it harder for squads of new players to call in OB's. for example
squad 1 is made up of experenced players from a good corp squad 2 is made up of new players who have made their own corp and are just starting out now squad 1 knows all the tricks to maximise wp gain and go down far less than squad 2 due to their equipment and skill squad 1 hits the first orbital and calls it in squad 2 have just earned 1000wp now under your system squad 2 needs to earn even more wp, that system would just mean that only the top squad on a team would get to call OB's in and it would make it much harder for new players to use one of dust's coolest mechanics. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:55:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:slap26 wrote:The PS fired from the warbarge eliminates the need to have an EVE buddy dropping the rain. (The only working link between EVE and Dust ATM)
I feel like this strike shouldn't be available and if you want to drop a strike in you need somebody in orbit.
Or if you want to keep your anti-social strike it needs to be nerfed. It is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to effective for a free strike. It's not free...2500 WP needs to be accumulated before its awarded. But I'm sure you knew that.....
How much SP did you have to invest into OB's???? How much ISK did you spend on the OB???
sounds pretty FREE to me.... |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:00:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote: Again your issue with OB'sare it's AV capabilities. Sorry but that's not even an issue. OB's should be more than capable of taking out tanks. OB's are meant to take out everything in it's proximity on the ground, your tank is nothing special to be excused from this mechanic. Even if they did make it a skill to call in OB's, every squad leader would obviously be skilled in it and you'd be right back here again QQing in another thread because your tanks will still be taken out.
Its a matter of ISK and SP compared to something you get for free. A FREE precision strike is a "get rid of tank button" for everyone that qq's about tanks because they don't spec into AV.
There should be some sort of risk to have orbitals. Right now there is no such risk. If a guy in EVE is dropping the rain he is risking his ship. With the FREE precision strikes there is no risk involved. Hence its a broken game mechanic |
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:13:00 -
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gbghg wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Tryhard514 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500. That's the problem, you said by teams that were good enough to earn them. Anyone can get an OB, it's the easiest thing to do, I can get them solo. They are way to easy to get. Which is why I'm calling for a WP increase to call them in, I said 500 but even a 1000 WP Increase to 3500 per OB would be acceptable in my book. If you want to go the increase each OB Called in by 500 WP. Make it so that it applies to the whole team. For example- Squad 1 and 2 have both earned 3000 WP and are ready to call in an OB. Squad 1 calls in OB. Squad 2 loses current OB and must now earn another 500 WP to call in OB. Squad 1 now needs to earn 4000 WP to call in their next OB. Hope that made sense. I get what you mean, but the problem with that is that it would make it harder for squads of new players to call in OB's. for example squad 1 is made up of experenced players from a good corp squad 2 is made up of new players who have made their own corp and are just starting out now squad 1 knows all the tricks to maximise wp gain and go down far less than squad 2 due to their equipment and skill squad 1 hits the first orbital and calls it in squad 2 have just earned 1000wp now under your system squad 2 needs to earn even more wp, that system would just mean that only the top squad on a team would get to call OB's in and it would make it much harder for new players to use one of dust's coolest mechanics.
I see your point. Lets take my above solution and take it a step further then, each squad is allowed only 1 OB per certain amount of time. The more squads that are on a team, the more time each squad has to wait before being able to call in another OB. |
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