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slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.23 15:21:00 -
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The PS fired from the warbarge eliminates the need to have an EVE buddy dropping the rain. (The only working link between EVE and Dust ATM)
I feel like this strike shouldn't be available and if you want to drop a strike in you need somebody in orbit.
Or if you want to keep your anti-social strike it needs to be nerfed. It is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to effective for a free strike. |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.23 15:43:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Invading Oren wrote:I do agree that it's an "instakill" button.There should be a timer or something like that rather than the 1 sec "sound of panic" that can't be avoided.Right now there's no way to avoid an OB. This ^ It should be a 3 seconds warning so you have "half" of a chance to run away. Also re-spawning as a the OB starts, sucks big time. You see that 1sec to re-spawn count down, as you seen the OB starting... horrible feeling. 
I'm actually fine with how quick it drops in. I'm more concerned that it is to powerful for a free strike. And the tactical strikes that an EVE buddy can call in are slower to drop in then the Precision strike. (Because the person in EVE needs to click a button when the person in Dust selects where he/she wants it dropped in. While if a Precision strike is dropped its almost instantaneous.) |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.23 16:30:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:They're not exactly free you know. That's true, you have to put a TON of skill points in Orbital Bombardments, pay millions of isk, and spend a lot of time building them up... oh wait, no you don't!
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slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.23 16:49:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:lol. Before OB's, everyone was amazed at the E3 presentation. Everyone wanted OB's in game.
then when us testers finally got to call them in, people cried they were too easy to earn (they were)
Now people (mostly tankers/vehicle ppl no doubt) want them nerfed/removed.
my feelings on this matter: The default strike is weak enough that it poses no serious threat to good vehicle pilots/smart players. honestly, most maps have several areas that provide cover from OB. that said, the OB collision detection is kinda broken. It should collide with tall buildings, to eradicate those pesky Snipicus nests high atop buildings/rooftops.
Everyone was amazed because it was an EVE pilot dropping it in. Not not a free war barge strike.
And they one shot shield tanks because we don't have the EHP of an armor tank |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:08:00 -
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Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:26:00 -
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gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get.
Make it a SP sink then, Flyingconejo had a good idea for it. And how is the npc different then a person shooting a planet?
By that logic we shouldn't even have Precision Strikes in pubbies, (I would be fine with that)
Basically what you are saying is I didn't spec into AV and I don't want to lose my crutch. |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:39:00 -
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gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? It's a weapon shot from orbit, how does it make sense that tanks should be able to survive them? yes you don't have to put sp into calling them in, because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to put in a skill that everyone will skill up to max as quickly as they can, and then we will be in the same situation we are now except we've all wasted a load of sp to get back to the exact same spot. and it's my understanding that instant battles take place in hi sec and concord has a thing about people shooting planets so npc warbarge strikes are the only things we can get. Make it a SP sink then, Flyingconejo had a good idea for it. And how is the npc different then a person shooting a planet? By that logic we shouldn't even have Precision Strikes in pubbies, (I would be fine with that) Basically what you are saying is I didn't spec into AV and I don't want to lose my crutch. What I'm saying is that I've put a minimal amount of sp into AV so I do some damage and I can easily lose my dropship to a couple of swarms or forge gun hit, so watching tankers qq about dying after being shot from space doesn't hold much weight. And before you say anything else I know that you're acting incredibly biased towards your vehicles, we all do it to some extent.
At least when I get killed by a forge I know the guy at least had to aim and out play me. Swarms with their LOL lock on are a no skill weapon but atleast someone had to put SP into to be effective. The Free PS is a no skill no SP broken game mechanic and needs to be looked at.
And I commend you for still flying dropships after the only turret that could effectively protect them was nerfed into oblivion.
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slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:40:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:slap26 wrote:Warbarge Precession Strikes are free. How much SP did you have to invest to use it? How much isk did it cost to put that warbarge up there to drop the rain?
The PS is just a get rid of tank button for all you jackrabits that didn't put SP into AV. It is completely unbalanced and a broken mechanic. Not to mention that it eliminates the need for an EVE pilot to support you (The only link dust and eve have)
If they keep this broken mechanic it needs to get smacked by the nerf bat, because why buy the cow if your getting the milk for free? Your problem with OB's are it's AV capabilities? And you want a nerf for that!? Lmao Sounds to me like you're just butthurt because you've gotten your tank taken out 1 too many times by teams that are good enough to actually earn an OB. We should total nerf the OB's because they shouldn't be able to take out HAV's right  All my of AV is militia/starter grade, pretty free right, should that be nerfed too? The only issue with OB's is that they come a little too frequently. Like I said earlier, I would like to see a 3000 WP requirement instead of our current 2500. Or like someone else mentioned, increase the WP needed to use every consecutive OB by 500.
When squaded up we earn 3-5 OB's a game...
All I hear from you is please don't take away my get rid of tank button, because I didn't spec into AV
You should have to spec into the ability to call in a Free OB |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:55:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:slap26 wrote:The PS fired from the warbarge eliminates the need to have an EVE buddy dropping the rain. (The only working link between EVE and Dust ATM)
I feel like this strike shouldn't be available and if you want to drop a strike in you need somebody in orbit.
Or if you want to keep your anti-social strike it needs to be nerfed. It is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to effective for a free strike. It's not free...2500 WP needs to be accumulated before its awarded. But I'm sure you knew that.....
How much SP did you have to invest into OB's???? How much ISK did you spend on the OB???
sounds pretty FREE to me.... |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:00:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote: Again your issue with OB'sare it's AV capabilities. Sorry but that's not even an issue. OB's should be more than capable of taking out tanks. OB's are meant to take out everything in it's proximity on the ground, your tank is nothing special to be excused from this mechanic. Even if they did make it a skill to call in OB's, every squad leader would obviously be skilled in it and you'd be right back here again QQing in another thread because your tanks will still be taken out.
Its a matter of ISK and SP compared to something you get for free. A FREE precision strike is a "get rid of tank button" for everyone that qq's about tanks because they don't spec into AV.
There should be some sort of risk to have orbitals. Right now there is no such risk. If a guy in EVE is dropping the rain he is risking his ship. With the FREE precision strikes there is no risk involved. Hence its a broken game mechanic |
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slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:43:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:slap26 wrote:WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:slap26 wrote:The PS fired from the warbarge eliminates the need to have an EVE buddy dropping the rain. (The only working link between EVE and Dust ATM)
I feel like this strike shouldn't be available and if you want to drop a strike in you need somebody in orbit.
Or if you want to keep your anti-social strike it needs to be nerfed. It is waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to effective for a free strike. It's not free...2500 WP needs to be accumulated before its awarded. But I'm sure you knew that..... How much SP did you have to invest into OB's???? How much ISK did you spend on the OB??? sounds pretty FREE to me.... Well each time you lose a clone one the way to that 2500 points, the time it takes, each clone your team loses a clone is a cost. It costs effort and involves risk and both are rewarded with OB. Pretty simple economics mate.
So how many "clones" are you losing to obtain a FREE precision strike???? Are you running BPO fits??? How much isk did you spend on the OB's ammo or better yet the ship thats dropping it???? Did you invest SP into being able to use the turrets???? |

slap26
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:39:00 -
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CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3 wrote:NO
What the author of this post does not elude to is that he is a tanker and likes to pown infantry on ambush maps.So if by chance he actually gets an effective squad on the other team(if they are smart)they will undoubtedly target his tank.He just doesnt like the risk that involves so he asking for a nerf.
Ambush is gay, I never play that COD game mode. I rock a railgun in skirmish for the most part.
And way to post on an alt..... |
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