DUST Search - Ban tanks from public Ambush

Legen-Wait for It-Dairy wrote:

myBad Furry wrote:

Kesi Raae Kaae wrote:

Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each.

It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics.

Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them.

im for this

+1

and at the same time remove OB,s from ambush to.

While we're at it, let's remove those free LAVs so people can't move around the field faster or run me over. Too many times have I lost my suit due to being run over. Also, let's remove weapons too! I mean you can't reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to do deal with a guy with a gun. Everyone should run around and slap everyone to death! But, we gotta make sure there's no skill to buff your pimp hand, otherwise that'll be OP....

There's skills for AV, Swarms, Forge Guns, etc. for a reason. If you fail to train into them, then of course you're gonna get stomped by these vehicles. These skills are there for a reason so use them! Doesn't take much to skill into decent AVs.

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Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:26:00 - [1] - Quote Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each. It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics. Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:32:00 - [2] - Quote Never
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 375	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:33:00 - [3] - Quote You do that, but i would rather see spawns sorted out for ambush before anything else happens to them
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:33:00 - [4] - Quote No. This would discourage people from training up AV to deal with them.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:34:00 - [5] - Quote lolAmbush Where else would all these great tankers farm kills? Skirmish? lolNo, there's too many places people can kill them from.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:34:00 - [6] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each. It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics. Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them. im for this +1 and at the same time remove OB,s from ambush to.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:35:00 - [7] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each. It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics. Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them. No. Get packed av nades or better.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:35:00 - [8] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAmbush Where else would all these great tankers farm kills? Skirmish? lolNo, there's too many places people can kill them from. skirmish like me.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote myBad Furry wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAmbush Where else would all these great tankers farm kills? Skirmish? lolNo, there's too many places people can kill them from. skirmish like me. Redline tanking with a railgun... won't exactly call that a problem like Ambush tankers with blasters.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:41:00 - [10] - Quote myBad Furry wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAmbush Where else would all these great tankers farm kills? Skirmish? lolNo, there's too many places people can kill them from. skirmish like me. O w8 thats why there running ambush because The Big Bad Wolf will get them ! RUN Little RED RUN !!!

Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:42:00 - [11] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: No. Get packed av nades or better. I'm speaking from a Tank driver's perspective here. AVlol.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:45:00 - [12] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: myBad Furry wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAmbush Where else would all these great tankers farm kills? Skirmish? lolNo, there's too many places people can kill them from. skirmish like me. Redline tanking with a railgun... won't exactly call that a problem like Ambush tankers with blasters. for you no A TD is not ment to kill infantry . but for tanks im something from hell !
Legen-Wait for It-Dairy OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:46:00 - [13] - Quote myBad Furry wrote: Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each. It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics. Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them. im for this +1 and at the same time remove OB,s from ambush to. While we're at it, let's remove those free LAVs so people can't move around the field faster or run me over. Too many times have I lost my suit due to being run over. Also, let's remove weapons too! I mean you can't reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to do deal with a guy with a gun. Everyone should run around and slap everyone to death! But, we gotta make sure there's no skill to buff your pimp hand, otherwise that'll be OP.... There's skills for AV, Swarms, Forge Guns, etc. for a reason. If you fail to train into them, then of course you're gonna get stomped by these vehicles. These skills are there for a reason so use them! Doesn't take much to skill into decent AVs.
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:49:00 - [14] - Quote Or we could just stop at what I said
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:49:00 - [15] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: No. Get packed av nades or better. I'm speaking from a Tank driver's perspective here. AVlol. Want to put your money where you mouth is? Corp battle with Red Star in say 4 hours? I rpomise you we wont bring out any tanks to take your tanks out.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:50:00 - [16] - Quote Legen-Wait for It-Dairy wrote: myBad Furry wrote: Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each. It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics. Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them. im for this +1 and at the same time remove OB,s from ambush to. While we're at it, let's remove those free LAVs so people can't move around the field faster or run me over. Too many times have I lost my suit due to being run over. Also, let's remove weapons too! I mean you can't reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to do deal with a guy with a gun. Everyone should run around and slap everyone to death! But, we gotta make sure there's no skill to buff your pimp hand, otherwise that'll be OP.... There's skills for AV, Swarms, Forge Guns, etc. for a reason. If you fail to train into them, then of course you're gonna get stomped by these vehicles. These skills are there for a reason so use them! Doesn't take much to skill into decent AVs. you got to look at it as a tanker see,s it noob + no AV + your tank + your skill in tank = Noob crying for nerfs on the forums
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:54:00 - [17] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: No. Get packed av nades or better. I'm speaking from a Tank driver's perspective here. AVlol. Want to put your money where you mouth is? Corp battle with Red Star in say 4 hours? I rpomise you we wont bring out any tanks to take your tanks out. Yes and you'll kill me easy because you're a highly organised corp full of skilled players. Are you missing my point? I'm not saying tanks are broken, I'm saying that them being allowed in random public matches is broken.
Outlaw OneZero Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 176	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:55:00 - [18] - Quote How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead?
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:58:00 - [19] - Quote Outlaw OneZero wrote: How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead? Done it proved it the rest no to shut it ! milltia tanks are better then standard and pro tanks.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:58:00 - [20] - Quote myBad Furry wrote: Outlaw OneZero wrote: How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead? Done it proved it the rest no to shut it ! milltia tanks are better then standard and pro tanks. THEY ARE THE RIFFTERS OF DUST 514 !

Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:00:00 - [21] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Are you missing my point? I'm not saying tanks are broken, I'm saying that them being allowed in random public matches is broken. I get the point and I think they are fair play.
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:00:00 - [22] - Quote Outlaw OneZero wrote: How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead? That's the thing, I'm not a great tank pilot and I don't have to stick to militia tanks in public matches. I'm not boasting about elite skills here, I'm saying being able to spawn in tanks in public ambush is stupid.
myBad Furry Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:03:00 - [23] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Outlaw OneZero wrote: How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead? That's the thing, I'm not a great tank pilot and I don't have to stick to militia tanks in public matches. I'm not boasting about elite skills here, I'm saying being able to spawn in tanks in public ambush is stupid. it is .
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:26:00 - [24] - Quote The map sizes really aggravate the problem, as once one side has tanks on the field their opponents will almost never be able to call in one of their own without themselves or the RDV getting taken out during the delivery. I've seen HAVs doing laps around the map, and some of them are fast enough to do a complete circuit in the time it would take to call something in.
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 319	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:33:00 - [25] - Quote Negative one
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:48:00 - [26] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: The map sizes really aggravate the problem, as once one side has tanks on the field their opponents will almost never be able to call in one of their own without themselves or the RDV getting taken out during the delivery. I've seen HAVs doing laps around the map, and some of them are fast enough to do a complete circuit in the time it would take to call something in. Yeah, when larger maps, more players per game, more AV options and more vehicle options arrive ambush tanks will probably cease to be a problem. It's likely by the summer that there will be no more small maps anyway, but if there is I hope that CCP addresses the tank problem on these maps.
Outlaw OneZero Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 176	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:00:00 - [27] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Outlaw OneZero wrote: How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead? That's the thing, I'm not a great tank pilot and I don't have to stick to militia tanks in public matches. I'm not boasting about elite skills here, I'm saying being able to spawn in tanks in public ambush is stupid. I see your point, I guess I just take it upon myself to limit the type of gear I'll bring in a pub match against randoms, not everyone is so nice.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2013.02.22 21:32:00 - [28] - Quote To me tanks arent broken but they are just the strongest thing to use on the battlefield to control player flow so your team can advance to get the win . If no one strong enough gets in the way of the tank the guy with the well fitted tank wins the match hands down and lord forbid theres 2-3 other tanks on the same team.It takes too many resources at a moments notice for a team of randoms to take out a well fitt tank which is why they're so predominant. Been thinking of getting into tanks myself honestly just making a AV Tank,since that's probably the only thing to kill those lone wollfing tanks most effectively beside a whole squad of forge gunners.(what are trhe odds of that happening right?) ALSO i agree with banning them from ambush and just keeping them to skrimish.
General John Ripper Baltar Research 22	Posted - 2013.02.22 21:45:00 - [29] - Quote AV GRENADES! I dont own or run any tanks and i still disagree with this. Sometimes I play with idiots who never stock up on av grenades but eventually the noobs gotta stop crying and learn how to create an AV load out. Until then, I will do my best to solo while still maintaining a positive k/d in ambush.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 326	Posted - 2013.02.22 21:52:00 - [30] - Quote I have to agree on the issue of Tanks being called in in ambush, In a mode where the spawns are random and terribly placed, very small maps, and a clone count of 80 each per team. Tanks need to go, whatever team manages to call 2 of them is guaranteed to win, and only 1 would be necessary if lets say Zitro's tank was on the team. Too argue that you need to spec into AV is redundant. In a pub match the teammates you get are random, there are no squads or corps that are always running with 1 or 2 guys specialized in AV and give them support while they actually setup shop to take the tanks out. Soloing a tank in ambush is possible, but highly unlikely. I don't agree however on tanks being removed from Skirmish, it shouldn't matter what type it is. it's a huge map, spawns are organized and precise and it lasts a lot longer too. Tanks in skirmish really add to the atmosphere of the game mode, where it just ruins it in Ambush.



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