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Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:26:00 -
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Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each.
It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics.
Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:42:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:
No. Get packed av nades or better.
I'm speaking from a Tank driver's perspective here.
AVlol. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:49:00 -
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Or we could just stop at what I said |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:54:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kesi Raae Kaae wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:
No. Get packed av nades or better.
I'm speaking from a Tank driver's perspective here. AVlol. Want to put your money where you mouth is? Corp battle with Red Star in say 4 hours? I rpomise you we wont bring out any tanks to take your tanks out.
Yes and you'll kill me easy because you're a highly organised corp full of skilled players.
Are you missing my point? I'm not saying tanks are broken, I'm saying that them being allowed in random public matches is broken. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.22 19:00:00 -
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Outlaw OneZero wrote:How about you prove your 3lit3 skillz and call down 1 militia only tank instead?
That's the thing, I'm not a great tank pilot and I don't have to stick to militia tanks in public matches.
I'm not boasting about elite skills here, I'm saying being able to spawn in tanks in public ambush is stupid. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.22 19:48:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:The map sizes really aggravate the problem, as once one side has tanks on the field their opponents will almost never be able to call in one of their own without themselves or the RDV getting taken out during the delivery.
I've seen HAVs doing laps around the map, and some of them are fast enough to do a complete circuit in the time it would take to call something in.
Yeah, when larger maps, more players per game, more AV options and more vehicle options arrive ambush tanks will probably cease to be a problem.
It's likely by the summer that there will be no more small maps anyway, but if there is I hope that CCP addresses the tank problem on these maps. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.23 19:54:00 -
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9/10 times I use logical fallacies rather than engage in proper discussion. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:32:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:
I do think it's a weak move to call in high-end tanks in a pubmatch, and then act like you've accomplished anything other than calling in a tank. If you want to call it in and admit that you can't win without it, or that you enjoy pub stomping, that's fine. But don't pretend it's some skillfull, well balanced maneuver that shows off your skill as an FPS player. That's just silly.
Exactly, I call in tanks because it's easy mode and a quick way to grind SP and ISK while the game is fairly boring. As a tank pilot I don't have to put in nearly 1/10th of the effort in to staying alive as the enemy team has to put in to destroying me.
The whole meta-game mechanics and power discrepancies of EVE don't really mesh well with the instanced battles and public matches of DUST. It's not as if when I spot a proto-tank in a public ambush I can tackle it and get on the bat phone to friends for them to come destroy it. My options are to quit, somehow avoid it or hope that my team of randoms miraculously think as one, switch to AV, get decent spawns and not die instantly to the tank(s) and the flock of opposing infantry we're not currently fit to deal with.
Hopefully by the full release of the game either public matches will be a very small part of Dust which you don't have to bother with and/or small maps and tank domination will be a thing of the past. |
Kesi Raae Kaae
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Posted - 2013.02.24 09:12:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
Yep, and the thing is 90% of these kids wanting nerfs have never even used a tank. Just assume they must be OP.
The tanks themselves don't need nerfing, I think they're fine for serious battles and an organized corp can take them out without breaking their stride.
What's not fine is how easy it is to pubstomp in one, especially in public ambushes where you don't come across any organised resistance. It's why I use them in public matches.
Now I could do the honourable thing and not use tanks in public matches, but when a game has an abusable mechanic it should be up to the developer to address the issue rather than hope the player base will play nice. |
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