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IRuby Heart
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:52:00 -
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I have to agree on the issue of Tanks being called in in ambush, In a mode where the spawns are random and terribly placed, very small maps, and a clone count of 80 each per team. Tanks need to go, whatever team manages to call 2 of them is guaranteed to win, and only 1 would be necessary if lets say Zitro's tank was on the team. Too argue that you need to spec into AV is redundant. In a pub match the teammates you get are random, there are no squads or corps that are always running with 1 or 2 guys specialized in AV and give them support while they actually setup shop to take the tanks out. Soloing a tank in ambush is possible, but highly unlikely.
I don't agree however on tanks being removed from Skirmish, it shouldn't matter what type it is. it's a huge map, spawns are organized and precise and it lasts a lot longer too. Tanks in skirmish really add to the atmosphere of the game mode, where it just ruins it in Ambush. |
IRuby Heart
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Posted - 2013.02.23 19:33:00 -
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Atlas Exenthal wrote:9/10 times I just leave ambush games when the other team brings in high-tier tanks.
It's a waste of my time/effort/money to try and take them out, so I just leave. They're obscene in pub matches.
9/10 times I just leave ambush games when the other team brings in their high-tier Protosuits and Weapons. Its a waste of time/effort/money to try and take them out so I just leave, like a b'itch. They're pretty obscene in pub matches.
See me and you are very much alike, we both hate anything remotely challenging and would rather stick to pubstomling the newberries |
IRuby Heart
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Posted - 2013.02.23 20:49:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Atlas Exenthal wrote:9/10 times I just leave ambush games when the other team brings in high-tier tanks.
It's a waste of my time/effort/money to try and take them out, so I just leave. They're obscene in pub matches. 9/10 times I just leave ambush games when the other team brings in their high-tier Protosuits and Weapons. Its a waste of time/effort/money to try and take them out so I just leave, like a b'itch. They're pretty obscene in pub matches. See me and you are very much alike, we both hate anything remotely challenging and would rather stick to pubstomling the newberries What an absolute nonsense rebuttal. Everyone knows that calling in an ADV tank in ambush is the absolute easiest of easy modes. It's pubstomping taken to the extreme. OTOH, managing to live long enough in an AV fitting (with little to no anti-infantry firepower) to do 10,000+ dmg to the fastest moving target on the field is a herculean and expensive effort. Sure, a squad of 4 well coordinated AVers can take out a tank if they get lucky with their spawn, but compared to how extra super pussified and easy it is to call in a tank and dominate as a one man wrecking crew, it just isn't worth the effort. If you want to berate people for sticking to pubstomping newberries, at least point your weak fallacies at the real pubstompers: the tank drivers. As for your slippery slope falacy about protosuits and weapons, yeah, if you do that you're also a pubstomper. At least you don't have 10,000 HP and can be killed with the same weapons that kill everyone else. Too many times I've seen supposed "good" players who rely on expensive gear get cocky about their win, when they're afraid to put on gear that matches the payout levels of the match for fear of losing to other players of equal skill. It's pathetic.
This post was filled with so much fail, I find it hard to take seriously.
1.) I don't care about pubstompers...at all. They want to bring out the good gear to win it's all good on them. How can you call someone a p'ussy for bringing out the gear to earn them the win, while you run around in Militia gear and calling it unfair. HTFU.
2.) My post was simply and quite obviously exaggerated and sarcastic enough for anyone to with a brain to get the point that quitting because you've been faced with a challenge on the opposing team is pathetic. Quitting because a tank is on the other team is no different than quitting because they were using protogear or weapons or facing a squad of top corp players. Basically you trying to justify quitting bt saying it's not the worth effort is admitting that you'd rather stick to the stuff that is easy mode, which for you is stomping the new berries in their militia gear and no advanced HAV'S allowed. HTFU.
3.) That post of yours was more of a rant against your obvious distaste of tanks and those that like to use their good gear to win. Lol. STFU. (S=Smarten)
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IRuby Heart
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:36:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
Have you even driven a tank before? Why the hell do people assume its easy mode?
For me using an AR is easy mode.
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I guess that's what explains how tank drivers have the highest KDRs then Because you only lose 1 every few games, You still lose the isk, Kdr doesn't matter. Your not going to drop enough tanks in one match to ruin kdr. My point is....if ARs are easy mode then how come the tankers don't die as much and still **** the battlefield? Not arguing about importance of KDR in dust. I'm just saying that ARs can't be easy mode when the tankers are doing better as far as KDR is concerned. Mr. Zitro's KDR is like 25, right? Sir Meode's is like 17, Exmaple's is 11, etc.......you don't see any AR guy with numbers comparable those.
Whoever says AR's are easy mode is just shooting crap out of their mouths. I'd like to see these morons use an AR instead of their laser rifle, HMG, or HAV and consistently put up good numbers against people who actually know how to aim. If this game ever went Pro Circuit, I guarantee none of these people would ever be able to compete gun on gun with MLG pros who've been using Assault rifles in various games for years. |
IRuby Heart
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:55:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
I guess that's what explains how tank drivers have the highest KDRs then
Because you only lose 1 every few games, You still lose the isk, Kdr doesn't matter. Your not going to drop enough tanks in one match to ruin kdr. My point is....if ARs are easy mode then how come the tankers don't die as much and still **** the battlefield? Not arguing about importance of KDR in dust. I'm just saying that ARs can't be easy mode when the tankers are doing better as far as KDR is concerned. Mr. Zitro's KDR is like 25, right? Sir Meode's is like 17, Exmaple's is 11, etc.......you don't see any AR guy with numbers comparable those. Whoever says AR's are easy mode is just shooting crap out of their mouths. I'd like to see these morons use an AR instead of their laser rifle, HMG, or HAV and consistently put up good numbers against people who actually know how to aim. If this game ever went Pro Circuit, I guarantee none of these people would ever be able to compete gun on gun with MLG pros who've been using Assault rifles in various games for years. Whoever says its not compared to tank driving is shooting crap out. AR is easy when you know how to aim. You also don't have to multi task, did you even read my above post girlfriend?
When you say it's easy if you know how to aim is very vague and not a very good argument
Every gun is easy in this game if you know how to aim. Am I wrong?
However learning to Aim with AR definitely requires a greater degree of skill compared to the other weapons in the game. |
IRuby Heart
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Posted - 2013.02.24 04:29:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:quote=IRuby Heart Ydubbs81 RND wrote:[quote=Y0UR NAME HERE]
says AR's are easy mode is just shooting crap out of their mouths. I'd like to see these morons use an AR instead of their laser rifle, HMG, or HAV and consistently put up good numbers against people who actually know how to aim. If this game ever went Pro Circuit, I guarantee none of these people would ever be able to compete gun on gun with MLG pros who've been using Assault rifles in various games for years. Whoever says its not compared to tank driving is shooting crap out. AR is easy when you know how to aim. You also don't have to multi task, did you even read my above post girlfriend? When you say it's easy if you know how to aim is very vague and not a very good argument Every gun is easy in this game if you know how to aim. Am I wrong? However learning to Aim with AR definitely requires a greater degree of skill compared to the other weapons in the game. But as my above post says, With AR all you have to do is aim and take cover. The original comment was between the difficulty between using an AR or driving a tank. I'm not saying AR is simple, but it is easier then driving a tank. As above, Tank has to worry about position, hardners, reps, all the mods, Then you have swarms coming for you at long range from several spots, forge gunners who are hard to spot, don't know who's AV or not or who has AV grenades, and the entire enemy team is aware of your presence and focus's on killing you specifically. Where as AR you aim, take cover, stay with team mates and no one is really hunting just you, they're going for your team. Like I said, tank is a target for the whole other team, you have a lot to worry about, for me personally, Playing AR is far more relaxing then driving a tank.
I can respect this post, I have only driven Militia tanks so I can't really say what is more relaxing or not. What I can say is that running an assault build isn't as relaxing as you make out to be. We have our problems down here on the ground as well, snipers, laser rifles, Running into HMG's, tanks, and the random enemy spawning behind us. Yup, Unless we're running with a well built squad we're constantly on our toes. |
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