you're brought real life into a VIDEO GAME....yet I'm the stupid one? LOOOOOL

Good one.

Balance > real life

you're brought real life into a VIDEO GAME....yet I'm the stupid one? LOOOOOL

Good one.

Balance > real life

Personnaly lance we will see what is OP when the proto come, its tough to said now the game is curently too easy but right now that take 3 chest shot to kill an assault well equiped i think is fine if i shot deeper its because i have sharpshooter prof 2

Can you name a shotgun player?

So you're high? I mean, come on - have YOU fired a minigun in real life?

And arguing that Balance > Real Life is a joke being as both of those weapons are perfectly fine just the way they are - to be honest your post is just so freaking mind boggling I'm not sure if you're wanting to nerf the HMG or were just flaunting your E-Peen in the wrong light trying to accuse me of wanting to nerf it; I honestly have no ****ing clue

Fact is, the Shotgun is a SPECIALIST weapon and if you put skills into it IT'S GOING TO BE DEADLY JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS GAME

You got shot because you're stupid and somehow it's over-powered? No. Here's why:

THE MAPS ARE FREAKING HUGE!!!! If you somehow got shot by a shotgun in the first place it can be NO-ONES FAULT BUT YOUR OWN!

I am tired of all this OP threads. Most people play AR an all we see is nurf the other guns.

Most of the AR user who says other gun are OP are possibly not well equiped/skilled.
I see well trained AR/shotgun/sniper user kill heavy without difficulties.
I see scout user get kill really quick when they don't achieve to attack from behind.

It's pretty hard to say something is OP when you don't even know what are the other guy's skills. He might use a cheap shotgun or whatever gun, but still have 3.5M SP behing it. You never know.

From the time you said Balance > real life is a joke i stopped reading.

You do realize this is not real life right? You do realize balance is what makes / breaks a game right?

You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

Im agree but perhaps lance only play ambush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w

EDJUMACATE YOURSELF

people's problem is that they judge weapons from lolPublic games. How many people judge a weapon's performance against another corp?

Everyone judges stuff from playing against noobs. If people did judge in a corp game, then I guarantee you nobody would be crying over HMGs and all the QQ threads would be cut in half.

Who uses shotguns in corp battles? lol, it's all ARs and tanks.

The fact that you said that shows you haven't played many corp matches against good teams / players.

Names bro, give me names of people who use shotguns in corp battles. I'll wait.

First match of the day I go 35-0 while feeling like a total wreck and in a logi suit. Almost all of my kills were OHK with no damage mods, I say nerf it to 30 damage or increase spread just like in the old days.

The fact that you said that shows you haven't played many corp matches against good teams / players.

I use shotgun in CB

How about you tell me and not link a video, because I can also link someone else's video and do this all day.

Fact is it's a videogame, and if balance wasn't in, then it will only take 1 bullet to kill people in every FPS.

And do you regularly kill people who've already spotted you? Or did you catch most of them off guard?

HMGs are getting nerfed this time around. Wait until next build to start crying about shotguns. HMGs counter class is broken atm so HMG being OP is a much bigger problem. Whats the counter for scouts? LOL its both heavy and assault classes. Yet the crybaby heavies will cry about shotguns when every other class has several counters.

Fatty tears are tasty.

Only the militia is op, the rest are fine.

if you can't close the gap on the person shooting you before they just up and leave than what's the point?

Honestly, this is what separates a good heavy from a crap heavy at this point. (Jury is out as to which camp I fall into...)

The players who know how to get into position before pulling the trigger will do just fine even if they nerf HMG range.

The weapon is not CQC weapon.

If it was, it it would have the range of an SMG.

Nerfing the range to force it to become a CQC weapon is just plain stupid honestly.

The weapon is not CQC weapon. If it was, it it would have the range of an SMG. Nerfing the range to force it to become a CQC weapon is just plain stupid honestly.

It might not be currently, but that's the crux of the complaint.

Everything about the suit/weapon combination makes it extremely effective and balanced in CQC range. [i]If[/] it's overpowered at all, it's because it does well in the mid-range.




Which if it's nerfed, it'll end up closer to this.



Why? Because it forces you to account for the negatives of the Heavy suit?