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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:07:00 -
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Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced.
FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered.
You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:48:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced.
FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered.
You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun.
When the **** did I say anything about the HMG in this thread? I've frequently advocated that the HMG is just fine the way it is - quit trying to turn me into something that you just made up for whatever point it is you're trying to make. Like, seriously, does anyone else see the absolute stupidity of this guys post in correlation to being a RESPONSE of mine? |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:17:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced.
FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered.
You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun. When the **** did I say anything about the HMG in this thread? I've frequently advocated that the HMG is just fine the way it is - quit trying to turn me into something that you just made up for whatever point it is you're trying to make. Like, seriously, does anyone else see the absolute stupidity of this guys post in correlation to being a RESPONSE of mine? you're brought real life into a VIDEO GAME....yet I'm the stupid one? LOOOOOL Good one. Balance > real life
So you're high? I mean, come on - have YOU fired a minigun in real life?
And arguing that Balance > Real Life is a joke being as both of those weapons are perfectly fine just the way they are - to be honest your post is just so freaking mind boggling I'm not sure if you're wanting to nerf the HMG or were just flaunting your E-Peen in the wrong light trying to accuse me of wanting to nerf it; I honestly have no ****ing clue
Fact is, the Shotgun is a SPECIALIST weapon and if you put skills into it IT'S GOING TO BE DEADLY JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS GAME
You got shot because you're stupid and somehow it's over-powered? No. Here's why:
THE MAPS ARE FREAKING HUGE!!!! If you somehow got shot by a shotgun in the first place it can be NO-ONES FAULT BUT YOUR OWN!
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:25:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
From the time you said Balance > real life is a joke i stopped reading.
You do realize this is not real life right? You do realize balance is what makes / breaks a game right?
You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w
EDJUMACATE YOURSELF |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:39:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
From the time you said Balance > real life is a joke i stopped reading.
You do realize this is not real life right? You do realize balance is what makes / breaks a game right?
You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77wEDJUMACATE YOURSELF How about you tell me and not link a video, because I can also link someone else's video and do this all day. Fact is it's a videogame, and if balance wasn't in, then it will only take 1 bullet to kill people in every FPS.
If you're not going to watch it and consider what it has to offer, then you're a troll.
A sickly, decrepit troll with absolutely nothing better going on in his life than whine and complain then dismiss other avenues of opinion. The WORST kind of gamer there can possibly be.
Edit: Also, it directly discusses GAME BALANCE. So quit being stupid. |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:56:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:HMGs are getting nerfed this time around. Wait until next build to start crying about shotguns. HMGs counter class is broken atm so HMG being OP is a much bigger problem. Whats the counter for scouts? LOL its both heavy and assault classes. Yet the crybaby heavies will cry about shotguns when every other class has several counters.
Fatty tears are tasty.
If they nerf HMGs it's going to create a VAST imbalance in the game that they might not be able to recover from. They have a ridiculous reload time and you have to go Heavy to use them, sacrificing speed. 40-50m of range is great and all but if you can't close the gap on the person shooting you before they just up and leave than what's the point?
HMGs are balanced. They're just fine and they don't need to be touched. They do exactly what they're supposed to do and being as you have to specialize into them in order to attain that "over powered" offensive capability you're not going to be able to react very well when something else comes along.
Like a tank.
Edit: further more, Heavies aren't very great at capturing objectives in a hurry. Other team is using a lot of Heavies? Have your team go Scout and just bleed their MCC dry. |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:02:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:if you can't close the gap on the person shooting you before they just up and leave than what's the point? Honestly, this is what separates a good heavy from a crap heavy at this point. (Jury is out as to which camp I fall into...) The players who know how to get into position before pulling the trigger will do just fine even if they nerf HMG range. The weapon is not CQC weapon. If it was, it it would have the range of an SMG. Nerfing the range to force it to become a CQC weapon is just plain stupid honestly.
Hence forth if they nerf the Shotgun we might as well all be using ******* Nova Knives. |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:03:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:The weapon is not CQC weapon. It might not be currently, but that's the crux of the complaint. Everything about the suit/weapon combination makes it extremely effective and balanced in CQC range. [i]If[/] it's overpowered at all, it's because it does well in the mid-range. Quote:If it was, it it would have the range of an SMG. Which if it's nerfed, it'll end up closer to this. Quote:Nerfing the range to force it to become a CQC weapon is just plain stupid honestly. Why? Because it forces you to account for the negatives of the Heavy suit?
A.) It's a HMG.... Not an automatic Shotgun....
B.) Statement, rather than a response.
C.) Go play a Heavy in Manus Peak and you'll notice those negatives in a hurry. |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:20:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Hence forth if they nerf the Shotgun we might as well all be using ******* Nova Knives. I'm starting to think that's what they want.
AR/Mass Driver vs Nova Kni- CALL OF DUTY: EVE ONLINE |
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:45:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Maybe if you speced into something that had a deeper skill pool you wouldn't have to deal with that.
LOL at you for using a 1 demensional class and then complaining about it. Your troll-fu is weak and obvious. Breathing is OP, you should stop doing it. Not trolling. Just pointing out the obvious.
If they reduce the range on the HMG the only thing that would make it better than the AR is the fire-rate, which is just slightly more than twice what it is.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH
The HMG does HALF the damage of the AR. Thereby, you'd be making it a shorter ranged Assault Rifle with a big magazine and a really slow user.
Thereby, you're just complaining. |
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:43:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Maybe if you speced into something that had a deeper skill pool you wouldn't have to deal with that.
LOL at you for using a 1 demensional class and then complaining about it. Your troll-fu is weak and obvious. Breathing is OP, you should stop doing it. Not trolling. Just pointing out the obvious. If they reduce the range on the HMG the only thing that would make it better than the AR is the fire-rate, which is just slightly more than twice what it is. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH The HMG does HALF the damage of the AR. Thereby, you'd be making it a shorter ranged Assault Rifle with a big magazine and a really slow user. Thereby, you're just complaining. And a huge hitbox unlike the AR. HMG is easy mode. The range is getting nerfed. Time to get over it and move on crybabies. Shotgun is the new OP.
A hail of 2000 RPM isn't supposed to have a large hitbox? Oh, I'm sorry. Let me dial up all of my buddies that play every game ever and refresh their memory on how guns work in video games (since you're tampon is so red over real-life references) |
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:44:00 -
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[quote=crazy space 1
How can something be the NEW op when nothing was changed yo idoit, it's a shotgun it killed people close range DUH. Some people are really bad at this game.
Also the HMG does way more damage than the AR[/quote]
It does more damage because of it's fire-rate, not because of it's rounds. I have done the math on this already and the Assault Rifle pumps out more DPS than the HMG, the HMG can just fire longer due mostly to it's large magazine. |
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