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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:43:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Maybe if you speced into something that had a deeper skill pool you wouldn't have to deal with that.
LOL at you for using a 1 demensional class and then complaining about it. Your troll-fu is weak and obvious. Breathing is OP, you should stop doing it. Not trolling. Just pointing out the obvious. If they reduce the range on the HMG the only thing that would make it better than the AR is the fire-rate, which is just slightly more than twice what it is. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH The HMG does HALF the damage of the AR. Thereby, you'd be making it a shorter ranged Assault Rifle with a big magazine and a really slow user. Thereby, you're just complaining. And a huge hitbox unlike the AR. HMG is easy mode. The range is getting nerfed. Time to get over it and move on crybabies. Shotgun is the new OP.
A hail of 2000 RPM isn't supposed to have a large hitbox? Oh, I'm sorry. Let me dial up all of my buddies that play every game ever and refresh their memory on how guns work in video games (since you're tampon is so red over real-life references) |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:44:00 -
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[quote=crazy space 1
How can something be the NEW op when nothing was changed yo idoit, it's a shotgun it killed people close range DUH. Some people are really bad at this game.
Also the HMG does way more damage than the AR[/quote]
It does more damage because of it's fire-rate, not because of it's rounds. I have done the math on this already and the Assault Rifle pumps out more DPS than the HMG, the HMG can just fire longer due mostly to it's large magazine. |
calisk galern
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:51:00 -
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shot guns are countered by AR's and HMG's that see them coming. two of the most common builds in the game and please name me a weapon that won't kill an opponent that doesn't see you coming.
I specd shotgun and honestly I can agree with most people saying theirs no reason to do it, the militia shotty is more then enough so if you want to tone down the basic levels sure, but seriously i get brought down by geks in less then a second from twice the range if they see me coming and that's in both my logi or assault fits, it's even faster in a scout suit.
it's an assassination weapon made for ambushing people in close quarters or a decent support weapon while traveling in squad while the heavies and ar's clean up from range, hardly game changing imo .
due to how close you need to get, and how easy it is to get caught outside of it's kill range, it's also one of the riskier weapons I've used. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:58:00 -
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To be fair the shotgun either 1 hit kills someone or it goes full ****** and does 2 damage despite a point blank shot ._.
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zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:00:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:First match of the day I go 35-0 while feeling like a total wreck and in a logi suit. Almost all of my kills were OHK with no damage mods, I say nerf it to 30 damage or increase spread just like in the old days.
In close quarters it beats everything but at distance it fails |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:08:00 -
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I say CCP just gives you 50% reduced damage and moves on with their day  |
BattleCry1791
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:33:00 -
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Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote:Only the militia is op, the rest are fine.
Very much THIS^
I was in a logi suit with 650 total HP and got one shotted by a militia shotgun. That's too much isk lost to a gun that doesn't even cost 1k. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:54:00 -
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^ that brings up another thing.
How many pellets DOES this thing fire?
I mean can the stat get put IN the game so people don't have to guess?
And maybe a skill to add pellets? :3
Ok maybe that would be too much >.>
I love shotguns too much. I blame mag and bf3. OHKing people from 100+ meters out.... |
Reout Karaal
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.19 07:38:00 -
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BattleCry1791 wrote:Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote:Only the militia is op, the rest are fine. Very much THIS^ I was in a logi suit with 650 total HP and got one shotted by a militia shotgun. That's too much isk lost to a gun that doesn't even cost 1k.
So... How about level1 shotgun, which is Militia with 2 additional rounds? Oh, it costs 4k or something, so we should probably nerf it as well. How about level2 specialist - - same stats, lower ammo capacity and lower CPU/PG drain. Goes too? OK. You probably don't want to look at level3 and above, do you? OK. Awesome. Has any other weapons killed you "too fast"? We would like to remove those too.
Or here's an idea! How about you check your corners and learn to sidestep instead? It's not that hard, you can just use your analogs for this. Or equip that OP weapon and play few matches with it. Tell me how your killing spree goes with 6 rounds and stupid reload.
I play logi as well. T1 and T2, mostly T1. My top is 269hp/160hp. Never got OHKd by a shotty, because I never stand still and never approach shotty frontally. I shotgunned for some time, got the feeling of it and now I kill 3 out of 4 shotgunners with my exile (or CRG3 if I feel like not getting many kills). Only times I get downed by a shotty now is when Assault with >300 shields rushes me or somebody helps them with AR/HMG.
But yeah, I didn't cry that missiles are op either. Or HMGs. To me the point of the game is to challenge you, not get easier.
So how about you get some gungame, before you start asking for a nerf? "I can not compete!" is not a valid reason for kittening the game up.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2013.02.19 07:58:00 -
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Citrutex wrote:Tbone322 wrote:Shucks, I was hoping you actually knew how many there were so we could calculate the actual total damage possible per shot. Anybody got this information? I want to say I read 12 once, but the forum search is lacking, cant find anything Chribba, where is dust-search.com? The masses need that yellow bar.
Future will see  Might tie it into EVE-Search instead of making a whole new site for it, still looking into it all.
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Citrutex
The High and Mighty
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Posted - 2013.02.19 08:06:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Future will see Might tie it into EVE-Search instead of making a whole new site for it, still looking into it all. /c
You will always be my hero <3 |
KA24DERT
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.19 19:21:00 -
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I run a suit with a little over 500hp and I've been one shotted many times by shotguns. I'm not sure I should loose 500hp to anything but a forge gun or higher. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.19 19:27:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:To be fair the shotgun either 1 hit kills someone or it goes full ****** and does 2 damage despite a point blank shot ._.
Annoying isn't it :( |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.02.19 19:32:00 -
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OMG nerf everything CCP then these OP threads will stop, make everyone run around in militia gear for a week or so and i bet these threads stop. You DEV's gotta be getting sick of these... LOL   
Shot gun works as intended. Close range you die. Shoot them from afar they die. 
(i dont have a scout) but do have an Alt with an HMG and if a scout gets me in close im fine with it. Mind u if i get them b4 they get me i dont wanna hear any crying. 
Play the game get better and quit crying.
CCP do the militia idea. dont matter to me I did fine after every reset, at least its about skill/tactics/brains/B@lls for like a week after a reset, b4 all the no lifeing myself included. LOL |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
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Posted - 2013.02.19 19:39:00 -
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 i agree |
Fornacis Fairchild
Kat 5 Kaos
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Posted - 2013.02.19 19:40:00 -
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Shotguns are fine....when I see a weasley looking guy running at me with his arm encased in metal I start with my evasion tactics, and win 80% of the time.
Most shotgun deaths are when I'm tangled up with someone and they come in for the kill...same for HMG deaths...AR deaths....Laser sword deaths.....hell ..... nerf everything. |
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