um you do know this is a beta right? This is currently so far from the final product it's laughable.

Leave for a month or two, come back. You'll even have earned 3 million sp by then without playing so win/win. No one will blame you for getting tired of testing the watered down battle system that dust is going to use.

You do know this game is intended to play like savage right? Half fps half rts? That's nothing like COD.

LOLZ COD CLONE, you lost credibility after saying that.

i dont recall anything in this game being reminiscent of COD,

you dont unlock a new gun or gear after you have shot a few ppl or capped an objective,

you dont shoot an enemy in the pinky toe with one round and they die,

maps are not the size of a walk in closet,

and the engine isnt the same thing from over a decade ago.


so i fail to see how this comes off as a COD clone in any shape or form.

So, Bye.

Door, swinging gate, blah, blah, blah and your bum.

This had better be VERY far from the final project... Because as it sits, it's more than laughable, it's in the "complete disregard" pile.

I am not exaggerating when I say "the only reason I'm playing now is to grind sp for future builds."
I played through the entire MAG beta, I know how beta games play. During the MAG beta the game's core concepts of being an strategic, team based, objective oriented shooter was clearly present. In DUST it isn't :\

I can't even justify this game anymore... It feels like a CoD clone more and more every day.

Is the plan to have an objective driven fps experience interwoven into an MMO economy and territorial warfare?

Or is DUST trying to skip the 20 kill streak it takes to call in drastically superior fire power and map dominance?


I never liked CoD. I played a LOT of mag, over 3 years worth.

The skirmish objectives are a pointless side obstacle to what is really a larger KDR fest than ambush.


That's all I really have to say anymore :\
I played several games tonight, every single one had 1 team launch an early LAV rush to the other side's first objective, and the KDR fest ensued. It has been dominance from the first minute of the game, and the remaining players simply snipe each other for the duration of the game timer...


Or they leave <_< I've been thrown into several battles where the map is already completely red, and the blue dots are all perched for the cold war snipe off... Something should be done about that... Why does it join me to a game that is over before I can even spawn once?

This game needs a complete overhaul. I'm really surprised this is what they've released with their open beta <_<

I play this game now only to grind sp (one of the most annoying grinds of all games I've played) for a future build where the game CCP has really been working on replaces current dust entirely...

Or maybe I'll just go back to strategy pvp games, and leave the cartoon arcade shooters to the CoD fans.

Seeing how this game is currently, i do have high hopes for it . CCP really need to revamp this game core playstyle. Run and Kill that's all i can see, not just you can kill me and you're good. They need more mission based objectives, matches mode that make people want to play more, make people think their Kills/Deaths ain't important and they can get rewards/achievements when they can succeed in their particular roles. I'm a CoD hater, there's once i bought the game, play it and sold it the next day, but i love the story mode though.

Is this another thread where the OP complains about how bad the game is and how many bugs and lacking features and modes there are, but still continues to play the game everyday anyway, While also ignoring or refusing to acknowledge the fact that he is playing a beta and a lot more is still to come?

Sounds like it.

But what new game can compete with such fantastic new content like retooled supply depos??......sarcasm.
Dust 514 needs a growing userbase and not just a few diehards that will shoot the same few folks over and over.

And then Defiance launches and some of those folks migrate to another shooter.
They then still remember Dust 514 but are happy playing a new game with new content and just decide to re-try the Dust beta sometime later but then other games launch and the gamers again postpone going back in favor of the newer games.

I still have faith in Dust 514 but its been October, November, December, January, Februrary, a good part of March and nothing, nothing and nothing??? of the promised content updates??

RTS mode may not be in for another year or so also its not going to be something your corp is going to let you do on a whim after all 150 million isk MCCs are not cheaply replaced.

If you want something interesting and challenging to do, go drop-shipping.

If you remember, back in the past, in the early cbt. . . There was a Game-Mode that was pretty much Mag like. Then came skirmish, and we all can only hope, that the gamemode will return.

Edit: actually it seems that the old game mode was called skirmish too. Would explain why i cannot remember the name. . .At least the cbt manual still state it as skirmish :I

whats sup techy

RTS mode may not be in for another year or so also its not going to be something your corp is going to let you do on a whim after all 150 million isk MCCs are not cheaply replaced.

If you want something interesting and challenging to do, go drop-shipping.

Hi Warlord

Movie Lord of War extended is good.
Doing nothing much just waiting to see if we get a new content update as I kill some time with lasers and mass drivers but tick, tock April 2nd is comeing up fast.

I can't even justify this game anymore... It feels like a CoD clone more and more every day.

Is the plan to have an objective driven fps experience interwoven into an MMO economy and territorial warfare?

Or is DUST trying to skip the 20 kill streak it takes to call in drastically superior fire power and map dominance?


I never liked CoD. I played a LOT of mag, over 3 years worth.

The skirmish objectives are a pointless side obstacle to what is really a larger KDR fest than ambush.


That's all I really have to say anymore :\
I played several games tonight, every single one had 1 team launch an early LAV rush to the other side's first objective, and the KDR fest ensued. It has been dominance from the first minute of the game, and the remaining players simply snipe each other for the duration of the game timer...


Or they leave <_< I've been thrown into several battles where the map is already completely red, and the blue dots are all perched for the cold war snipe off... Something should be done about that... Why does it join me to a game that is over before I can even spawn once?

This game needs a complete overhaul. I'm really surprised this is what they've released with their open beta <_<

I play this game now only to grind sp (one of the most annoying grinds of all games I've played) for a future build where the game CCP has really been working on replaces current dust entirely...

Or maybe I'll just go back to strategy pvp games, and leave the cartoon arcade shooters to the CoD fans.

Nope.
The MCC Cestus costs 120 Million ISK for the base model.

And YOU may be ISK poor but some folks run militia/starter/basic and do collect ISK so to the question of if there were a way to purchase a Cestus MCC and give it a custom pirate paint job and call it the Black Pearl then why not??

Then with my purchased MCC and my pirate crew we can respond to a Corporate Contract Challenge with the words:

We ready.
Bring it *****.

This is definitely the worst build of the Beta so far, thanks to the huge influx in players and tiny boost in content.

I was estimating after the new shift of focus of bringing more of the cost to the hulls and less on the modules.

As for updates I have a few.

Manus Peak Ambush (non OMS) now has the southern complexes expanded out of the red zone so you can fight down there on the bottom of the hill.

Next Game Development Blog is on Thursday it will cover the FW blog.

I was estimating after the new shift of focus of bringing more of the cost to the hulls and less on the modules.

As for updates I have a few.

Manus Peak Ambush (non OMS) now has the southern complexes expanded out of the red zone so you can fight down there on the bottom of the hill.

Next Game Development Blog is on Thursday it will cover the FW blog.

I am not shure how hard they can push the ps3 though, it would be interesting to see how they can though.

One large problem is that instead of dealing with the load balanceing in May they instead opted to cut player counts by 50% from what was then being used.

They have had June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, Februrary and a good part of March with this issue still unresolved.

2007 MAG had 128 versus 128 player counts versus Dusts 16 and 16 in 2013.
Developer tools have evolved in the years since 2007.

MAG also had a less capable game engine with less detail on almost every level compared with what Unreal Engine can manage. Maybe point to an Unreal Engine game on console with a higher player count than DUST, or a game with similar to EU level of graphics and other capabilities with higher player counts than DUST has at present.

And yes, there ARE games with higher player counts on console than what DUST is currently demonstrating, but as with many things, larger player counts are in the works.

The computers used in 2007 to run the source code for a game and do the final load balancing are in no way ,shape or form comparable to the computers of 2013 that run the source code and do the final load balancing.

A better source code equals a better running game.
Better and more capable computers in turn create better games up to a point.

The fast way of creating a better game is a better and more capable target platform.
The problem is not what is being worked on but instead what actually comes out of the work pipeline ready and stable.

I do agree that the objective driven play is the right way to go, but it needs to be more like MAG. You had goals that unlocked other goals. At the moment it's way too "deathmatchy".

I can't remember which game it was (old, perhaps unreal, perhaps quake, doom...) that has multiplayer maps where you had to rob a missile(or something) from a moving train or truck. We need more sensible action and missions. Intelligent missions. Not like ambush...it's basically a deathmatch. Why not A REAL AMBUSH where their objective would be to escape the ambush or something similar. Like in MAG where they needed to steal the trucks and such.

uhm what mavado?

One large problem is that instead of dealing with the load balanceing in May they instead opted to cut player counts by 50% from what was then being used.

They have had June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, Februrary and a good part of March with this issue still unresolved.

2007 MAG had 128 versus 128 player counts versus Dusts 16 and 16 in 2013.
Developer tools have evolved in the years since 2007.

Mag was not truly a 128 vs 128 though, it fake it though lobby cross talking allowing it to appear there was 128 people on the field when it was in reality 32 vs 32 vs effects of 3 other lobbies where as planetside it is possible to shove 128 people on a nice little bombing run on top of a cliff. Then again which console doesn't cheat? I am sure things like offloading stuff not being viewed is one such old trick that once upon a time wasn't considered before

Mag was not truly a 128 vs 128 though, it fake it though lobby cross talking allowing it to appear there was 128 people on the field when it was in reality 32 vs 32 vs effects of 3 other lobbies where as planetside it is possible to shove 128 people on a nice little bombing run on top of a cliff. Then again which console doesn't cheat? I am sure things like offloading stuff not being viewed is one such old trick that once upon a time wasn't considered before

It also "Crowd Control Productions" could be doing this on purpose to weed out the weak.

: Defiance.

Here you go

Will Defiance be the Defying moment for Dust 514 ?

Sorry... i couldn't help my self... me bad.

the problem with a tv show and video game is that once the tv show dies the game is left in sorta limbo as to what to do.

the tv show is gonna be a hard sell because the budget has to be pretty high for a show like that. not sure how the ad revenue will prop it up in the long run.


it could go well if they cater to the lil narcicissists and start to work the lil codbois player names into the storyline on the show but that will only last for so long.

really it's the PS4 and GTAV.
those are the 2 big swords over the heads of the devs.

the PS4 is gonna drag most of the older players away. they have the loot for it. same way it was on ps3. first few months were mostly childfree. depends on what the game count is at release but most of your "hardcore" older gamers are outtttta here at ps4 release.

gtav is gonna smash records. prolly will come up a lil short in the "wow!" dept. but it's still gonna rock. rockstar never ever f's up a game. ever. it's gonna drag most of the player base away for a while and if the mp is deep enough, you can kiss a good chunk of it goodbye for long enough to call it "for good".

they have the summer to get this game together before it spins into the "screw it, just slap a codthing together and release it. it's good enough" catagory.

Peace
B

I do agree that the objective driven play is the right way to go, but it needs to be more like MAG. You had goals that unlocked other goals. At the moment it's way too "deathmatchy".

I can't remember which game it was (old, perhaps unreal, perhaps quake, doom...) that has multiplayer maps where you had to rob a missile(or something) from a moving train or truck. We need more sensible action and missions. Intelligent missions. Not like ambush...it's basically a deathmatch. Why not A REAL AMBUSH where their objective would be to escape the ambush or something similar. Like in MAG where they needed to steal the trucks and such.

No no no.... you have the full thing outside down....

Hardcore gamer's will keep their PS3 for YEARS to come... Hell, i still have my Atari console hanging around some where.

The PS4 will appeal to kids, that haven't seen a "new" console in their life time. And they going to get all exited about something ,that hardcore older gamer's have seen for YEARS.

UT 1 had some crazy onslaught maps that were a blast

I agree this is a really boring game, I have been playing for about 6 months on and off now and its got a bit better but its still the same boring crap over and over again. I play a couple of matches each week now and that's enough for me as its just boring repetitive deathmatches. I don't know how anyone can play ambush mode (that's even worse), at least skirmish is a bit tacticial. Anyway most of the time I just AFK the matches to get my weekly SP allowance while I play Skyrim on my PC.

Not really interested in playing properly again until next big patch to see what they add. I had total of about 85k aurum in closed beta ive spent all of it now on active, passive boosters (about 25 days of passive left) Wont be buying any more aurum for this boring game, it doesn't help that much anyway, levelling skills or what gear you use doesn't matter, its about how good you are as a player, so I see no point to buy aurum lol.

Anyway need to afk quite a few matches today to reach my sp cap while I have fun playing skyrim.

Just a side note, Im very excited about Destiny for the PS4 (and PS3 I think) Looks and sounds better than this game ever will be in my opinion. But I will keep my hopes high for this game to get better. (I just don't think its going to succeed to be honest)

This "kid" born in 1961 learned that the best deal is sell the yearold console and buy a new one.
As far as games go give me a new Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Borderlands, Farcry, etc.

I think you mention here a very good point, I bought a merkc pack and aurum package for 20 Gé¼ aswell, it's not that much money, but it is atleast 40Gé¼ and I know I'll get my aurum back when (SOONGäó) this game is finished, but it's 40 Gé¼ I spent for a game which is a Beta ad does not change as much as it should, I just know the open-Beta phase as the hotphase were the devs go crazy about adding new stuff and try to fix bugs and stuff, here I see devs going on vacation for 1 1/2 month in just 2 months. Something is up here and I understand every player losing interest in this game.

And I really don't think the PS4 or the fanfest will be the holy grail fixing all the problems, sorry to be this pessimistic, but I think CCP did a quiet good job the last months to bring this thoughts to every mercs head.



I think it's much easier than implementing new maps. Just give us informations. I think nobody want to wait for informations anymore, and this "leaking" stuff gets boring aswell.

Basically what I've gathered from this is that CCP needs to fix afk farming

Oh, and this game is boring as **** right now.

Basically what I've gathered from this is that CCP needs to fix afk farming

Oh, and this game is boring as **** right now.

What makes other FPS games not boring after you have played the same map 20 times a day for a week? Nothing comes to mind.

We have to wait for them to implement the rest of the game. For now, just let your passive skill points gain and check back after the next update, because... its free and you can do that without losing money.

Patience is the hardest thing to teach the FPS crowd. They always want instant gratification.

They always want instant gratification.

Doesn't any game get stupidly boring after awhile?

The only way to fix AFK farming is to change the SP system. Currently SP is passively gained for participating in battle. It has little to do with how you actually perform in battle. SP should be merit based off of how you perform in battle versus just passively participating.

never heard that about EVE, so if Dust is an EvE styled shooter, why should it get boring? With all this awesome sandbox stuff and huge battles to attack or defend whole planetary infastructures?
The only reason why it gets boring is because there is nothing as promised till know.

Oh and that there will also be no aurum reset just adds another minus to the list.
I really like Dust but its just a shame that it rots and rots with no changes.

The only way to fix AFK farming is to change the SP system. Currently SP is passively gained for participating in battle. It has little to do with how you actually perform in battle. SP should be merit based off of how you perform in battle versus just passively participating.

Why is it a shame there isn't going to be another Aurum reset, do you actually mean SP?

Also, just hang in there alright, because Dust will be just like EVE with updates. I know as it is for a lot of people, that it's gotten crazy boring and there are only so many bugs until they are all discovered or at least most within a certain build.

People need to just hang in there, it will get better, much better. There might be different types of ammo, weapon customization, map generation based on installations and player placed as well, many different options for weapons in each category, what CCP has planned for this game is amazing and I'll wait, patiently, it'll just be time. (This goes for everyone) I see EVE and play EVE and therefor I will not lose hope on Dust.

We are up for a new build, should hopefully be soon, but like I said, I'll wait because when it comes, it'll be awesome, it's CCP damn it!

I can't even justify this game anymore... It feels like a CoD clone more and more every day.

Is the plan to have an objective driven fps experience interwoven into an MMO economy and territorial warfare?

Or is DUST trying to skip the 20 kill streak it takes to call in drastically superior fire power and map dominance?


I never liked CoD. I played a LOT of mag, over 3 years worth.

The skirmish objectives are a pointless side obstacle to what is really a larger KDR fest than ambush.


That's all I really have to say anymore :\
I played several games tonight, every single one had 1 team launch an early LAV rush to the other side's first objective, and the KDR fest ensued. It has been dominance from the first minute of the game, and the remaining players simply snipe each other for the duration of the game timer...


Or they leave <_< I've been thrown into several battles where the map is already completely red, and the blue dots are all perched for the cold war snipe off... Something should be done about that... Why does it join me to a game that is over before I can even spawn once?

This game needs a complete overhaul. I'm really surprised this is what they've released with their open beta <_<

I play this game now only to grind sp (one of the most annoying grinds of all games I've played) for a future build where the game CCP has really been working on replaces current dust entirely...

Or maybe I'll just go back to strategy pvp games, and leave the cartoon arcade shooters to the CoD fans.

um you do know this is a beta right? This is currently so far from the final product it's laughable.

Leave for a month or two, come back. You'll even have earned 3 million sp by then without playing so win/win. No one will blame you for getting tired of testing the watered down battle system that dust is going to use.

You do know this game is intended to play like savage right? Half fps half rts? That's nothing like COD.

I totally agree people expect the best most perfect thing ever but its only a beta there is going to be complaints you just can't ***** cause you know why theres problems

Decides to play Borderlands 2 all next week.
Waiting for Defiance.........

I can't even justify this game anymore... It feels like a CoD clone more and more every day.

Is the plan to have an objective driven fps experience interwoven into an MMO economy and territorial warfare?

Or is DUST trying to skip the 20 kill streak it takes to call in drastically superior fire power and map dominance?


I never liked CoD. I played a LOT of mag, over 3 years worth.

The skirmish objectives are a pointless side obstacle to what is really a larger KDR fest than ambush.


That's all I really have to say anymore :\
I played several games tonight, every single one had 1 team launch an early LAV rush to the other side's first objective, and the KDR fest ensued. It has been dominance from the first minute of the game, and the remaining players simply snipe each other for the duration of the game timer...


Or they leave <_< I've been thrown into several battles where the map is already completely red, and the blue dots are all perched for the cold war snipe off... Something should be done about that... Why does it join me to a game that is over before I can even spawn once?

This game needs a complete overhaul. I'm really surprised this is what they've released with their open beta <_<

I play this game now only to grind sp (one of the most annoying grinds of all games I've played) for a future build where the game CCP has really been working on replaces current dust entirely...

Or maybe I'll just go back to strategy pvp games, and leave the cartoon arcade shooters to the CoD fans.

I can't even bring myself to grind sp. It sucks cause I really like this game however I am completely done untill something changes. Hopefully I won't fall too far behind. I just can't do it.

I can't even bring myself to grind sp. It sucks cause I really like this game however I am completely done untill something changes. Hopefully I won't fall too far behind. I just can't do it.