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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.11 13:45:00 -
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1. MAG was never a great game. it was ok for the first week of the first closed beta. then it got nerfed so you guys could play it. you couldn't. so they nerfed it again so you could play it. you couldn't. so they nerfed it again and again. and you still couldn't play it. and then they added random bullet spread. and you still couldn't play it. same way you guys can't play 514. and they are nerfing it for you.
128v128 never worked because of the lag. if you could "play through" the lag then it was doable. but not acceptable. and broken.
and you still couldn't play it. then when the game was done and over they begged everyone to come back and use the clan system which was about a year too late. and the clans basically did there what they are doing here: pubstomp. nothing's changed except the MAG is now a 514.
2. this game is boring because most of the players suck. they don't know what they are doing, they don't use mics, they don't squad up, they hide. they are clueless. and the game RELIES on these people for it to work because as of right now, the clans get nothing. they are hobbled, just like the clans were hobbled in mag. and then the clans left when a new game with clan support showed up. only a matter of time.
it's also boring because the maps are dull. also where did the installations tab in the store go? you guys only THINK you've been redlined, but you haven't really been redlined yet.
give us installations and i'll show you redlining like you have never seen.
it's an ok game at the moment, not great, not bad. about average. it could go south fast if they keep protecting the casuals in an attempt to lure them into the game at retail.
that's the biggest mistake of all.
Peace B |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
730
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:05:00 -
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I don't even play this game anymore unless my corp is corp battling. Thanks to AFK farming I am at 5.6 million sp. Generally when the cap opens up I AFK farm till I reach my cap. Once I reach my cap I turn of this game and have my corp text me when there is a corp battle.
I have decided to just be patient and give CCP time to fix their ****.
Meanwhile on Eve... |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:20:00 -
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I never played MAG so I can't say anything to this point.
I understand both sides with this.
-Yes Dust is boring as **** right now, and I think most of the players right now play it to be in the top tiers when its a nice finished game (SOONGäó)
-Yes it's a Beta.
But I see it like most mercs here. SOONGäó can't be the answer for everything. I think no one here wants to force anybody to do something, all we want is knowing WHAT will appear WHEN. And what is going to be worked on now, and in the future.
I think CCP stands for Crowd-Controlled-Programm, and I really would like to see this, all we really experience right now from this "crowd-controlled programm" is some lonesome devs spending their breaks here and don't have the permission to talk about the major changes. This is just odd. I think we all are very patient and just want to help Dust becoming the game it deserves to be.
So for Gods-Sake: CCP step up and become a "Crowd-Controlled-Programm". WE are your Beta-Testers and we all want informations. When will the next build come. What major changes will happen. What are you guys working on and how the **** can we help you guys.
Don'T leave us all here starving in this dark wet forums, because otherwise, and thats a promise same thing will happen to Dust, maybe much earlier than everyone of you guys expects. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3072
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:25:00 -
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Would the answer
Soon(no tm) be sufficient?
It also "Crowd Control Productions" could be doing this on purpose to weed out the weak. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
95
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:28:00 -
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I think this boredom is why there had been several scams ran lately. I think it is almost a certainty CCP is holding back to unleash a bunch of info and new content at Fanfest but patience is not a virtue found among gamers, especially today when there is so many other games to play. Speaking of, I've been hearing one word repeated a lot lately: Defiance. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
730
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
It also "Crowd Control Productions" could be doing this on purpose to weed out the weak.
That would leave only few 100 gamer. Most FPs gamers are nothing bunch of sissies and mamas boys. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
730
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:31:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:: Defiance.
Here you go |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
101
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:37:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Nomed Deeps wrote:: Defiance. Here you go
Will Defiance be the Defying moment for Dust 514 ?
Sorry... i couldn't help my self... me bad. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:40:00 -
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Yeah but thats exactly what I mean the new built might come this month, might on the fanfest, might in a half year. Noone knows, because we don't get informations. If they want Dust to be a success talk to the guys who want to use your product, in this example us, the playerbase.
I just have the feeling that there is definately no connection between us, the guys playing this game 24/7 and exactly knowing where problems are, and the great demi-god developers, floating around in space making awesome rap videos, and interviews and ****. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
730
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:41:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Will Defiance be the Defying moment for Dust 514 ? Sorry... i couldn't help my self... me bad.
Meh! I don't think so. You might see a few PC gamers make a move not so much the console gamers. However the summer line up and PS4 line up is pretty impressive. May see a few gamers witch over then.
I see more dusters make a progression towards Eve more than switching over to other games.
But then again this topic is not about other games its about how boring this game has got. |
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
154
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:51:00 -
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the problem with a tv show and video game is that once the tv show dies the game is left in sorta limbo as to what to do.
the tv show is gonna be a hard sell because the budget has to be pretty high for a show like that. not sure how the ad revenue will prop it up in the long run.
it could go well if they cater to the lil narcicissists and start to work the lil codbois player names into the storyline on the show but that will only last for so long.
really it's the PS4 and GTAV. those are the 2 big swords over the heads of the devs.
the PS4 is gonna drag most of the older players away. they have the loot for it. same way it was on ps3. first few months were mostly childfree. depends on what the game count is at release but most of your "hardcore" older gamers are outtttta here at ps4 release.
gtav is gonna smash records. prolly will come up a lil short in the "wow!" dept. but it's still gonna rock. rockstar never ever f's up a game. ever. it's gonna drag most of the player base away for a while and if the mp is deep enough, you can kiss a good chunk of it goodbye for long enough to call it "for good".
they have the summer to get this game together before it spins into the "screw it, just slap a codthing together and release it. it's good enough" catagory.
Peace B |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
101
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:00:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:the problem with a tv show and video game is that once the tv show dies the game is left in sorta limbo as to what to do.
the tv show is gonna be a hard sell because the budget has to be pretty high for a show like that. not sure how the ad revenue will prop it up in the long run.
it could go well if they cater to the lil narcicissists and start to work the lil codbois player names into the storyline on the show but that will only last for so long.
really it's the PS4 and GTAV. those are the 2 big swords over the heads of the devs.
the PS4 is gonna drag most of the older players away. they have the loot for it. same way it was on ps3. first few months were mostly childfree. depends on what the game count is at release but most of your "hardcore" older gamers are outtttta here at ps4 release.
gtav is gonna smash records. prolly will come up a lil short in the "wow!" dept. but it's still gonna rock. rockstar never ever f's up a game. ever. it's gonna drag most of the player base away for a while and if the mp is deep enough, you can kiss a good chunk of it goodbye for long enough to call it "for good".
they have the summer to get this game together before it spins into the "screw it, just slap a codthing together and release it. it's good enough" catagory.
Peace B
No no no.... you have the full thing outside down....
Hardcore gamer's will keep their PS3 for YEARS to come... Hell, i still have my Atari console hanging around some where.
The PS4 will appeal to kids, that haven't seen a "new" console in their life time. And they going to get all exited about something ,that hardcore older gamer's have seen for YEARS.
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EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
237
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:14:00 -
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DrSheepbringer3 wrote:I do agree that the objective driven play is the right way to go, but it needs to be more like MAG. You had goals that unlocked other goals. At the moment it's way too "deathmatchy".
I can't remember which game it was (old, perhaps unreal, perhaps quake, doom...) that has multiplayer maps where you had to rob a missile(or something) from a moving train or truck. We need more sensible action and missions. Intelligent missions. Not like ambush...it's basically a deathmatch. Why not A REAL AMBUSH where their objective would be to escape the ambush or something similar. Like in MAG where they needed to steal the trucks and such. UT 1 had some crazy onslaught maps that were a blast |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
427
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:16:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:BASSMEANT wrote:the problem with a tv show and video game is that once the tv show dies the game is left in sorta limbo as to what to do.
the tv show is gonna be a hard sell because the budget has to be pretty high for a show like that. not sure how the ad revenue will prop it up in the long run.
it could go well if they cater to the lil narcicissists and start to work the lil codbois player names into the storyline on the show but that will only last for so long.
really it's the PS4 and GTAV. those are the 2 big swords over the heads of the devs.
the PS4 is gonna drag most of the older players away. they have the loot for it. same way it was on ps3. first few months were mostly childfree. depends on what the game count is at release but most of your "hardcore" older gamers are outtttta here at ps4 release.
gtav is gonna smash records. prolly will come up a lil short in the "wow!" dept. but it's still gonna rock. rockstar never ever f's up a game. ever. it's gonna drag most of the player base away for a while and if the mp is deep enough, you can kiss a good chunk of it goodbye for long enough to call it "for good".
they have the summer to get this game together before it spins into the "screw it, just slap a codthing together and release it. it's good enough" catagory.
Peace B No no no.... you have the full thing outside down.... Hardcore gamer's will keep their PS3 for YEARS to come... Hell, i still have my Atari console hanging around some where. The PS4 will appeal to kids, that haven't seen a "new" console in their life time. And they going to get all exited about something ,that hardcore older gamer's have seen for YEARS.
This "kid" born in 1961 learned that the best deal is sell the yearold console and buy a new one. As far as games go give me a new Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Borderlands, Farcry, etc. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:19:00 -
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EnIgMa99 wrote:DrSheepbringer3 wrote:I do agree that the objective driven play is the right way to go, but it needs to be more like MAG. You had goals that unlocked other goals. At the moment it's way too "deathmatchy".
I can't remember which game it was (old, perhaps unreal, perhaps quake, doom...) that has multiplayer maps where you had to rob a missile(or something) from a moving train or truck. We need more sensible action and missions. Intelligent missions. Not like ambush...it's basically a deathmatch. Why not A REAL AMBUSH where their objective would be to escape the ambush or something similar. Like in MAG where they needed to steal the trucks and such. UT 1 had some crazy onslaught maps that were a blast
I just remember UT 2004 which also was a shitload of fun, defending and attacking diffrent buildings/ rains or wahtever. Serious we need **** like that in here. Quality game content. |
Superluminal Replicant
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:26:00 -
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I agree this is a really boring game, I have been playing for about 6 months on and off now and its got a bit better but its still the same boring crap over and over again. I play a couple of matches each week now and that's enough for me as its just boring repetitive deathmatches. I don't know how anyone can play ambush mode (that's even worse), at least skirmish is a bit tacticial. Anyway most of the time I just AFK the matches to get my weekly SP allowance while I play Skyrim on my PC.
Not really interested in playing properly again until next big patch to see what they add. I had total of about 85k aurum in closed beta ive spent all of it now on active, passive boosters (about 25 days of passive left) Wont be buying any more aurum for this boring game, it doesn't help that much anyway, levelling skills or what gear you use doesn't matter, its about how good you are as a player, so I see no point to buy aurum lol.
Anyway need to afk quite a few matches today to reach my sp cap while I have fun playing skyrim. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
319
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:30:00 -
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This epidemic burn out that's sweeping the forums could be solved if they just released a few more maps. But noooOOOOoooo they are working on "core gameplay". Thats gonna be valuable if you hemerage players out of boredom ccp. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:35:00 -
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Superluminal Replicant wrote:I agree this is a really boring game, I have been playing for about 6 months on and off now and its got a bit better but its still the same boring crap over and over again. I play a couple of matches each week now and that's enough for me as its just boring repetitive deathmatches. I don't know how anyone can play ambush mode (that's even worse), at least skirmish is a bit tacticial. Anyway most of the time I just AFK the matches to get my weekly SP allowance while I play Skyrim on my PC.
Not really interested in playing properly again until next big patch to see what they add. I had total of about 85k aurum in closed beta ive spent all of it now on active, passive boosters (about 25 days of passive left) Wont be buying any more aurum for this boring game, it doesn't help that much anyway, levelling skills or what gear you use doesn't matter, its about how good you are as a player, so I see no point to buy aurum lol.
Anyway need to afk quite a few matches today to reach my sp cap while I have fun playing skyrim.
Just a side note, Im very excited about Destiny for the PS4 (and PS3 I think) Looks and sounds better than this game ever will be in my opinion. But I will keep my hopes high for this game to get better. (I just don't think its going to succeed to be honest)
I think you mention here a very good point, I bought a merkc pack and aurum package for 20 Gé¼ aswell, it's not that much money, but it is atleast 40Gé¼ and I know I'll get my aurum back when (SOONGäó) this game is finished, but it's 40 Gé¼ I spent for a game which is a Beta ad does not change as much as it should, I just know the open-Beta phase as the hotphase were the devs go crazy about adding new stuff and try to fix bugs and stuff, here I see devs going on vacation for 1 1/2 month in just 2 months. Something is up here and I understand every player losing interest in this game.
And I really don't think the PS4 or the fanfest will be the holy grail fixing all the problems, sorry to be this pessimistic, but I think CCP did a quiet good job the last months to bring this thoughts to every mercs head. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
101
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:39:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:BASSMEANT wrote:the problem with a tv show and video game is that once the tv show dies the game is left in sorta limbo as to what to do.
the tv show is gonna be a hard sell because the budget has to be pretty high for a show like that. not sure how the ad revenue will prop it up in the long run.
it could go well if they cater to the lil narcicissists and start to work the lil codbois player names into the storyline on the show but that will only last for so long.
really it's the PS4 and GTAV. those are the 2 big swords over the heads of the devs.
the PS4 is gonna drag most of the older players away. they have the loot for it. same way it was on ps3. first few months were mostly childfree. depends on what the game count is at release but most of your "hardcore" older gamers are outtttta here at ps4 release.
gtav is gonna smash records. prolly will come up a lil short in the "wow!" dept. but it's still gonna rock. rockstar never ever f's up a game. ever. it's gonna drag most of the player base away for a while and if the mp is deep enough, you can kiss a good chunk of it goodbye for long enough to call it "for good".
they have the summer to get this game together before it spins into the "screw it, just slap a codthing together and release it. it's good enough" catagory.
Peace B No no no.... you have the full thing outside down.... Hardcore gamer's will keep their PS3 for YEARS to come... Hell, i still have my Atari console hanging around some where. The PS4 will appeal to kids, that haven't seen a "new" console in their life time. And they going to get all exited about something ,that hardcore older gamer's have seen for YEARS. This "kid" born in 1961 learned that the best deal is sell the yearold console and buy a new one. As far as games go give me a new Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Borderlands, Farcry, etc.
Sorry, you not allow to call you self a Hardcore gamer, if you don't play "Space Invaders" in you Atari 2600, at least once a week. |
Superluminal Replicant
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:39:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:Superluminal Replicant wrote:I agree this is a really boring game, I have been playing for about 6 months on and off now and its got a bit better but its still the same boring crap over and over again. I play a couple of matches each week now and that's enough for me as its just boring repetitive deathmatches. I don't know how anyone can play ambush mode (that's even worse), at least skirmish is a bit tacticial. Anyway most of the time I just AFK the matches to get my weekly SP allowance while I play Skyrim on my PC.
Not really interested in playing properly again until next big patch to see what they add. I had total of about 85k aurum in closed beta ive spent all of it now on active, passive boosters (about 25 days of passive left) Wont be buying any more aurum for this boring game, it doesn't help that much anyway, levelling skills or what gear you use doesn't matter, its about how good you are as a player, so I see no point to buy aurum lol.
Anyway need to afk quite a few matches today to reach my sp cap while I have fun playing skyrim.
Just a side note, Im very excited about Destiny for the PS4 (and PS3 I think) Looks and sounds better than this game ever will be in my opinion. But I will keep my hopes high for this game to get better. (I just don't think its going to succeed to be honest) I think you mention here a very good point, I bought a merkc pack and aurum package for 20 Gé¼ aswell, it's not that much money, but it is atleast 40Gé¼ and I know I'll get my aurum back when (SOONGäó) this game is finished, but it's 40 Gé¼ I spent for a game which is a Beta ad does not change as much as it should, I just know the open-Beta phase as the hotphase were the devs go crazy about adding new stuff and try to fix bugs and stuff, here I see devs going on vacation for 1 1/2 month in just 2 months. Something is up here and I understand every player losing interest in this game. And I really don't think the PS4 or the fanfest will be the holy grail fixing all the problems, sorry to be this pessimistic, but I think CCP did a quiet good job the last months to bring this thoughts to every mercs head. iceyburnz wrote:This epidemic burn out that's sweeping the forums could be solved if they just released a few more maps. But noooOOOOoooo they are working on "core gameplay". Thats gonna be valuable if you hemerage players out of boredom ccp. I think it's much easier than implementing new maps. Just give us informations. I think nobody want to wait for informations anymore, and this "leaking" stuff gets boring aswell.
No more resets, especially aurum ones. CCP needs moneys! |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1965
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:40:00 -
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Basically what I've gathered from this is that CCP needs to fix afk farming
Oh, and this game is boring as **** right now. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
734
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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Basically what I've gathered from this is that CCP needs to fix afk farming
Oh, and this game is boring as **** right now.
LOL. The only way CCP can fix AFK farming is making the game better to play. Any "fix" CCP puts into place for AFK farming we will break or find a way around it. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1944
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Basically what I've gathered from this is that CCP needs to fix afk farming +1
Quote:Oh, and this game is boring as **** right now. -1 |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
14
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:09:00 -
[84] - Quote
What makes other FPS games not boring after you have played the same map 20 times a day for a week? Nothing comes to mind.
We have to wait for them to implement the rest of the game. For now, just let your passive skill points gain and check back after the next update, because... its free and you can do that without losing money.
Patience is the hardest thing to teach the FPS crowd. They always want instant gratification. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3073
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:11:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:What makes other FPS games not boring after you have played the same map 20 times a day for a week? Nothing comes to mind.
We have to wait for them to implement the rest of the game. For now, just let your passive skill points gain and check back after the next update, because... its free and you can do that without losing money.
Patience is the hardest thing to teach the FPS crowd. They always want instant gratification.
There are already crying over when Battlefield 4 comes out... no more new DLCs til then. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
207
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:14:00 -
[86] - Quote
We need a new build this build has gotten very boring |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1965
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:19:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote: They always want instant gratification.
Yup, I demand instant satisfaction, it's why I've essentially played the same exact games of skirmish for the past 11 months now |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
75
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:26:00 -
[88] - Quote
The only way to fix AFK farming is to change the SP system. Currently SP is passively gained for participating in battle. It has little to do with how you actually perform in battle. SP should be merit based off of how you perform in battle versus just passively participating. |
Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
51
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:33:00 -
[89] - Quote
Doesn't any game get stupidly boring after awhile? |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:40:00 -
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Cosorvin wrote:Doesn't any game get stupidly boring after awhile?
never heard that about EVE, so if Dust is an EvE styled shooter, why should it get boring? With all this awesome sandbox stuff and huge battles to attack or defend whole planetary infastructures? The only reason why it gets boring is because there is nothing as promised till know.
Oh and that there will also be no aurum reset just adds another minus to the list. I really like Dust but its just a shame that it rots and rots with no changes. |
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