Wow, huge thread and (mostly) great responses. Acting like adults seems to be something more common around here and for that, I am glad.

On the subject, one part of me wants to say: "trust CCP, they will deliver eventually". The other part is asking the same questions that have been asked in this thread.

I am personally eager for new content more than I am eager to see the core mechanics "fixed". However, it really has to be a delicate balance of both:

No new content = Bored players
No fixes to the core gameplay = Frustrated players

There is no "one must be done first and done right" in my opinion, because changes to the core game will be minimal to newcomers and vets alike in terms of entertainment value. And if the core mechanics remain as they are people won't want to play with the new content.

Hopefully I won't get criticised for being a newcomer but just in case I will let it be known that I have played Dust for the past five months and have only recently become a member of the forums.

Aside from some light joking I'm not bashing anyone, but I've seen alot of good games take alot of time to make them polished. Sometimes even years after their release. I know it's bulls**t to release an unfinished product, but sadly it's very common, and afterall how much does this game cost?

Something I had forgotten to mention in my rather lengthy post back a bit ... something that Mr. Imp Smash indirectly reminded me of.

If anyone feels up to it, I'd recommend giving last year's FanFest clips a look. More notably the ones involving DUST and even more specifically the one titled "Seeding The Universe"
Close to the end of the clpi, Atli (the creative director) says something rather interesting

"... And it's more about creating a system that allows us to pile on top of it these ingredients..."

This was a response to a question about whether or not they'd implement differences in gravity and atmospheric conditions depending on the planets we dusters were fighting on, and whether or not these changes would affect our gameplay.

You can check out the question and the response here starting at 36:37.

Now think about that for a sec. What they're trying to do is build a core system first THEN start adding all these awesome features once they build a base that can support all these features.

Once again, CCP and the Dev team need to give us what they promised to give us in regards to this game, but we players need to have faith in that team and give them the time necessary to deliver that to us. We wouldn't want the game to collapse because we overload it with too many features now would we?

You want constructive?

Let me put it as bluntly as possible CCP.

Your game should play like CoD.

WoW!, hold on...no CoD. I don't think that will fit into this game.

I will say more like "Star Wars: Battlefront 2" the concept is more similar to Dust 514. And to be honest, i can't see a Battlefront 3 coming any time soon, so that door is right open.

quote the entire meaning of what I meant when I said CoD or don't quote it at all.

CoD makes you forget that you have a controller in your hands.

That's why it is the MOST SUCCESFUL FPS to date.

CoD can be the most shallow game ever.... but it works because it feels great to run around and shoot things in it.

Now imagine something like CoD with some actual DEPTH! Instead of just a brainless K/D stroking contest.

quote the entire meaning of what I meant when I said CoD or don't quote it at all.

CoD makes you forget that you have a controller in your hands.

That's why it is the MOST SUCCESFUL FPS to date.

CoD can be the most shallow game ever.... but it works because it feels great to run around and shoot things in it.

Now imagine something like CoD with some actual DEPTH! Instead of just a brainless K/D stroking contest.

Chill out dude, it's just a beta.

It was in beta for over a year and it barely improved.
Yeah, I don't think we should chill.
Everyone can access it, there will be no reset and CCP has full microtransactions that won't be refunded after the beta.
You might as well call it the full game that isn't finished.

Totally unrealistic in so many ways.
Does it not say at the top of the screen when it's loading BETA-Work in Progress?
Whoopee f*****g doo you've been playing a beta for a year and it's not complete. It may be a beta for another year, ever consider that?

Think of it like this, this game is meant to work along side another MMO. One which has already been out many years (7+ right?)
The timeline for release, development, and new features is going to be far stretched no matter what the damn podcasts say. You don't have to believe me, but keep up all of the naive expectations of insta product if you want.

I mentioned earlier it's a free game by choice, and of course someone gives the predicted response of something "that's not an excuse." No, it's not an excuse it's just a fact. The fact being that it doesn't have huge funding. Anyone with some real life experience knows that money makes things happen much faster. So since it's free, and a beta, and only been open beta for a few weeks I'm pretty sure the actual time line for this game is barely touched upon.

Here's what will go down with the unchill crowd: You'll complain and make all sorts of accusations about CCP and all of their family members, you'll stop playing and claim the game to be dead. Then some time down the road when it's no longer a beta, has been developed, worked upon, and expanded with numerous patches, everyone who abandoned it will come back and talk about how much of an influence they were on the game because they played it when it was a closed beta s**t talked it and abandoned it.

I charge for reading anyone else's future

Think of it like this, this game is meant to work along side another MMO. One which has already been out many years (7+ right?)
The timeline for release, development, and new features is going to be far stretched no matter what the damn podcasts say. You don't have to believe me, but keep up all of the naive expectations of insta product if you want.

I mentioned earlier it's a free game by choice, and of course someone gives the predicted response of something "that's not an excuse." No, it's not an excuse it's just a fact. The fact being that it doesn't have huge funding. Anyone with some real life experience knows that money makes things happen much faster. So since it's free, and a beta, and only been open beta for a few weeks I'm pretty sure the actual time line for this game is barely touched upon.

Totally unrealistic in so many ways.
Does it not say at the top of the screen when it's loading BETA-Work in Progress?
Whoopee f*****g doo you've been playing a beta for a year and it's not complete. It may be a beta for another year, ever consider that?

Think of it like this, this game is meant to work along side another MMO. One which has already been out many years (7+ right?)
The timeline for release, development, and new features is going to be far stretched no matter what the damn podcasts say. You don't have to believe me, but keep up all of the naive expectations of insta product if you want.

I mentioned earlier it's a free game by choice, and of course someone gives the predicted response of something "that's not an excuse." No, it's not an excuse it's just a fact. The fact being that it doesn't have huge funding. Anyone with some real life experience knows that money makes things happen much faster. So since it's free, and a beta, and only been open beta for a few weeks I'm pretty sure the actual time line for this game is barely touched upon.

Here's what will go down with the unchill crowd: You'll complain and make all sorts of accusations about CCP and all of their family members, you'll stop playing and claim the game to be dead. Then some time down the road when it's no longer a beta, has been developed, worked upon, and expanded with numerous patches, everyone who abandoned it will come back and talk about how much of an influence they were on the game because they played it when it was a closed beta s**t talked it and abandoned it.

I charge for reading anyone else's future

This is pretty much a bump.

I've dug into the progress of this game a little, since the concept explained in the videos from CCP was enough to get me on board. Several years of development, and yet the game I play when I log on this week is not even remotely close to what has been described. It's so far off, it is a case of over promising, under delivering. Some would call it expectation management. This has been going on for years.

At this point, the final product would have to be as different as night and day to deliver on even than half of what they've promised.

The present build is playable, horribly imbalanced, with bad gameplay, very little variation of gameplay, no scope, little incentive to continue playing and a pretentious connection to EVE. But it's playable. That is a sad state of affairs for how long this has been going. I don't know how people have hung on as long as they have because I'm already board. I hang on because of the promised scope etc... But how long will people continue to play if that's the only thing keeping them going, and CCP consistently fails to deliver?

I agree 100% with Novas post.

The core game is sadly lacking. Essentially we are playing a demo of 4 maps and 2 game modes...in the open beta.

Something is very wrong.

Lots of people who wern't in the closed beta are still on "omg this is awesome" mode, gathering huge corps of player together. There is a very real possibility that in a months time they'll start asking "now what" and we'll still be playing the four same stupid maps with the same weapons and no immersion, larger game or promised PVE content.