People who have no experience as game developers complaining about the game development of DUST 514. Sounds good man.

People who have no experience as game developers complaining about the game development of DUST 514. Sounds good man.

People who have no experience as game developers complaining about the game development of DUST 514. Sounds good man.

CCP has spent a lot of time just trying to produce the game we see.

The game we see is pretty sad.

Small maps, small player counts, flat weapons/armor and ZERO metagame.

Why is this game worth playing?

Right now, I can't really come up with a reason other than my corpmates.

GetGoodGäó CCP.

alright im already tiered of this thread. if CCP is saying they want to bump it up to 24 player matches and if they say their gonna increase their dust team by a factor of 5, then they are gonna do it. They are probably getting all their **** ready for fanfest. This isnt trearch, this isnt bungee, this isnt ****-ing infinityward this is CCP. if you dont want to play the first FPS to actually have a meaning, not just random shooting with no emphasis on teamwork and absolutly no skill required then go back to playing those games! we are still in beta so before you go bashing this game atleast wait until it launches and the maps are huge games are 100 v 100 there is pve and over 10 different game modes. Please give some constructive feedback, otherwise CCP will just ignore you

alright im already tiered of this thread. if CCP is saying they want to bump it up to 24 player matches and if they say their gonna increase their dust team by a factor of 5, then they are gonna do it. They are probably getting all their **** ready for fanfest. This isnt trearch, this isnt bungee, this isnt ****-ing infinityward this is CCP. if you dont want to play the first FPS to actually have a meaning, not just random shooting with no emphasis on teamwork and absolutly no skill required then go back to playing those games! we are still in beta so before you go bashing this game atleast wait until it launches and the maps are huge games are 100 v 100 there is pve and over 10 different game modes. Please give some constructive feedback, otherwise CCP will just ignore you

This should be called the chicken little thread. Geez fanboys and fanatics are so high strung. One day you'll praise and rant gleefully about the game and then another freak out like a damn meteor is rocketing towards the planet. I'm pretty sure game developer scope far extends the average patience of a gamer.

This should be called the chicken little thread. Geez fanboys and fanatics are so high strung. One day you'll praise and rant gleefully about the game and then another freak out like a damn meteor is rocketing towards the planet. I'm pretty sure game developer scope far extends the average patience of a gamer.

Aside from some light joking I'm not bashing anyone, but I've seen alot of good games take alot of time to make them polished. Sometimes even years after their release. I know it's bulls**t to release an unfinished product, but sadly it's very common, and afterall how much does this game cost?

Aside from some light joking I'm not bashing anyone, but I've seen alot of good games take alot of time to make them polished. Sometimes even years after their release. I know it's bulls**t to release an unfinished product, but sadly it's very common, and afterall how much does this game cost?

As stated , thats its a free game does not mean you can deliver anything then good quality.

EDIT: An addendum about the communication issues. This is really a tricky thing to comment on. To be completely honest, it does seem like CCP is trying hard to listen to the community. The problem is, they listen to us too much but never seem to hear what we are saying. They've allowed player complaints to dictate the direction of the game to the point where they've never really focused on their own plans, or that's the way it seemed. Best example : People said grouping was important. Instead of just giving us squads to let us play with four of our friends, they rushed to give us corporations with incomplete functionality fairly earlier on than they planned... instead of working on the core gameplay. Grouping and corps definitely improved the social aspects of the game which was a much needed breath of life at that point, but it still didn't change the fact that all it really added was that you could play (what still remains) a barebones game with your couple hundred closest friends four at a time.

CCP has a pretty awesome plan for the long term with dust. Anyone who's read anything about Dust from CCP can see that. The problem here is... They don't seem to actually have anything for the short term, or it changes wildly with every build. There is a serious lack of direction in making those plans actually happen. They don't seem to know what to focus on, so the bouncing from plan to plan ends up hindering development overall. CCP does need to listen to its community, but they need to pick and choose what they listen to more carefully. They need to not let players completely change their plans except in the more dire of circumstances. Make a plan. Stick with it. Make minor adjustments as needed. CCP can afford to go more free-form after all the necessary and basic features are in the game. Right now though, the absolute best thing CCP can do is to just focus on the core experience. We've had months of stability and backend changes. Now it's time to make the frontend shine. (And I'm not talking about graphics) That said... CCP can't get tunnel vision. I know that sounds like a mixed message, but that's been the problem this entire development cycle. They get so caught up working on fixes that they seemingly stop working on newer stuff. No matter what, there always needs to be tangible forward progress.

There's just really not much excuse for the lack of delivery on even the most basic of stated plans so far. If they honestly can't focus on doing current content fixes along with the addition of new content... They need to hire more people for these teams to accommodate that. Plain and simple. The current pace of development has been languid at best. As much as I love the CCP guys I've had the chance to talk to.. I have to believe they can do better.

Yay!

Nova Knife has criticisms and DUST will fail unless their own personal list of entitlements is implemented.

Surprise! No, not surprised at all.

TL;DR
QQ, Kitten Breath is at it again.

To clarify : I am not saying dust is going to fail. I am saying that Dust does not and probably will not have that 'timeless' quality that makes a FPS game great enough to have a huge chunk of players till playing it a decade later

People who have no experience as game developers complaining about the game development of DUST 514. Sounds good man.

I agree completely about the lack off progress and issues with the balancing. I've been playing the beta since November and all the problems I noticed the first time I played are still there today.

One of my favourite PS3 games is MAG. I started playing MAG in the early days of the MAG beta and boy did it have problems, problems similar to Dust like balancing, controls. But unlike CCP and Dust Zipper was paying attention to the feedback, communicating with the community, and making real visible changes that greatly improved the game. MAG, the team at Zipper, and community were so great, I wish Dust was half as good. Shame Sony shut down Zipper.

They are obviously delaying this game as long as possible and launching on PS4 with the whole F2P thing. However that doesn't change the fact that this game hasn't had any noticeable improvements since E3 which is sad.

You have finally made it to the club. You and I have disagreed very much in the past and I still think your self important attitude was detrimental to this game. Listening to the podcast and your questions about plans that are 5 years off made me Chuckle. Judging by this post though, you didn't believe in the questions you were asking. Why didnt you ask these question s about lack of progress and build after build of mundane or outright bad FPS gameplay?

You were too busy thinking you were making a difference by monopolizing the communication with CCP. I would go as far to say that your pestering helped confuse them about what needed to be fixed in the first place. Grideris still doesn't have a clue, he's probably dreaming about the next eve ship interaction with dust instead of actual FPS dynamics.

Oh nova knife. We tried so hard to tell you but it fell on deaf fanboy ears. You reap what you sow now.

Wow I atcually read ALL of that, and agree with alot of what you say.

Even tho Im bad for Trolling myself I think itd be a good Idea to ease up on the Troll posts and when someone does cry "NERF IT" or "ITS OP" we as a cummunity need to be more civil and descriptive with why said thing is not OP or why said thing is OP.


This is a Beta after all and we are the ones the Devs are looking to for Information so maybe they would hear us out more if we posted feedback worth hearing.