DUST Search - [Request] Heavy weapon: Amarr plasma flamethrower

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Yes this is another flamethrower thread, but unlike the others, I intend to flesh out details beyond "I want something that shoots fire", and explain why it would be a great addition to Dust 514's arsenal. This is not meant to shoot regular fire, but instead PLASMA much like many of Dust 514's existing weapons.

[Why a (plasma) flamethrower?]

Visually, there is something really beautiful and scary about a fire (or something fire-like such as plasma), could be the caveman fascination with fire.

Flamethrowers are always always fun, and that's why its the most commonly requested weapon type in Dust 514... seriously, search "flame thrower" or "flamethrower". This requested A LOT.

Increasing the game's variety of exotic weapons is good.

[How it should work]

It should be a heavy weapon.

It should fire in a cone similar to the shotgun, but with less spread. The cone fire would allow it to hit multiple targets at once.

It should have about the same range as the effective range of the HMG, but more range than the shotgun.

Damage per second should initially be less than the HMG, but the "lighting people on fire" part comes which continuous damage over time. This could be due to some perpetual ionization effect or whatever.

It should be able to not only light enemies on fire which does continuous damage, but it should also be usable for scorching the inanimate objects like the ground to seal off paths to enemies; this would make it a great area denial weapon.

[Why it won't be overpowered]

Range would be the same , and less damage per second.

[Skills]

Plasma flamethrower operation: 3% damage bonus to all fires started.

Plasma flamethrower proficiency: 5% burn duration per level

[Attributes]
Standard Plasma Flamethrower
Damage: 500 (estimate) per second (more than AR, less than HMG)
Persistent burning damage: 30 per second
Persistent burning duration on shielded/armored objects: 5 seconds
Persistent burning damage on non-shielded/armored objects: 15 seconds (burning objects inflict the persistent burning damage to anyone touching them)
Range: 50 meters
Magazine size: enough for 7 seconds of continuous fire
Capacity: 3 magazines worth

[Variants]

Burst: Fires in powerful semiautomatic bursts, and would basically be a heavy shotgun.

Tactical: Bigger magazine, more range, but less damage.

Scorcher: Lower damage, but more burn duration (things stay burning longer).

Breach: Small magazine, high damage.

[What it could look like]
It could look much like FIRE like this or this, though preferably with a distinctive color like purple (game needs more color variety).
It could look like LIGHTNING like this or this since lightning fits the definition of plasma. Perhaps something in between.

In case you didn't click... seriously, look at how amazing that looks, nature is awesome. Anyway, please CCP, let me burn people alive. Thank you for reading

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

I wish to become a god of blood and flame, melting the flesh of enemies with ionizing plasma! I wish to walk across a battlefield littered with the burning remains of thousands of enemies, and to crush their charred skulls under my heavy boot.
Make it happen CCP, and I will murder in thy name; it will be GLORIOUS!
I will create an alt, and form a mad cult of war that exclusively use the plasma flamethrower. Imagine a battle where an entire team of heavies wielding plasma flamethrowers are running wild with religious fervor, speaking in ancient forbidden tongues as they massacre the unsuspecting fools that dare to defy them.

Offer still stands

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Jakobi Wan Legions of Infinite Dominion 53	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:05:00 - [211] - Quote plasma thrower? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN how about a ******* big badass charge-to-fire widened range lazer cannon or photon cannon that only does fire/burning damage upon contact of unshielded armor... and acts something like a burst HMG in cover-popping waves/bursts or maybe even super reduced range (like breach scrambler pistol range) and give it the ability to penitrate solid walls that arnt thicker than X meters thick
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7847	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:35:00 - [212] - Quote I want to watch the world burn! Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 222	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:52:00 - [213] - Quote Burn! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 974	Posted - 2014.01.08 01:31:00 - [214] - Quote In many games the flamethowers are called 'LagThrowers'. Sadly, for a reason. Tank spam getting onto your nerves? An improvement:
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8009	Posted - 2014.01.13 07:09:00 - [215] - Quote I want! Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8195	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:12:00 - [216] - Quote No one else craves the fire? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 64	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:28:00 - [217] - Quote Tl dr I want dat fire! FAME
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8699	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:44:00 - [218] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I wish to become a god of blood and flame, melting the flesh of enemies with ionizing plasma! I wish to walk across a battlefield littered with the burning remains of thousands of enemies, and to crush their charred skulls under my heavy boot. Make it happen CCP, and I will murder in thy name; it will be GLORIOUS! I will create an alt, and form a mad cult of war that exclusively use the plasma flamethrower. Imagine a battle where an entire team of heavies wielding plasma flamethrowers are running wild with religious fervor, speaking in ancient forbidden tongues as they massacre the unsuspecting fools that dare to defy them. My offer still stands CCP Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone 4	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:00:00 - [219] - Quote I defintley love the idead of this plasma thower and how it is portrayed and the stats. It will be unique but one thing, This should be an armor based attack because odf the metal and the burning tempature of the plasma would be so high the damage against armor (being metal) would be higher then the shield. So shield resistance to plasma thower should be like 5% for all shields This would probably end up a caldari weapon being that their natural enemy is armor based (gallente)
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8699	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:26:00 - [220] - Quote Emo Skellington wrote: I defintley love the idead of this plasma thower and how it is portrayed and the stats. It will be unique but one thing, This should be an armor based attack because odf the metal and the burning tempature of the plasma would be so high the damage against armor (being metal) would be higher then the shield. So shield resistance to plasma thower should be like 5% for all shields This would probably end up a caldari weapon being that their natural enemy is armor based (gallente) ARs, plasma cannons, and shotguns are plasma weapons, and they're Gallente and anti-shield. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 136	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:03:00 - [221] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Yes this is another flamethrower thread, but unlike the others, I intend to flesh out details beyond "I want something that shoots fire", and explain why it would be a great addition to Dust 514's arsenal. This is not meant to shoot regular fire, but instead PLASMA much like many of Dust 514's existing weapons. [Why a (plasma) flamethrower?] Visually, there is something really beautiful and scary about a fire (or something fire-like such as plasma), could be the caveman fascination with fire. Flamethrowers are always always fun, and that's why its the most commonly requested weapon type in Dust 514... seriously, search "flame thrower" or "flamethrower". This requested A LOT. Increasing the game's variety of exotic weapons is good. [How it should work] It should be a heavy weapon. It should fire in a cone similar to the shotgun, but with less spread. The cone fire would allow it to hit multiple targets at once. It should have about the same range as the effective range of the HMG, but more range than the shotgun. Damage per second should initially be less than the HMG, but the "lighting people on fire" part comes which continuous damage over time. This could be due to some perpetual ionization effect or whatever. It should be able to not only light enemies on fire which does continuous damage, but it should also be usable for scorching the inanimate objects like the ground to seal off paths to enemies; this would make it a great area denial weapon. [Why it won't be overpowered] Range would be the same , and less damage per second. [Skills] Plasma flamethrower operation: 3% damage bonus to all fires started. Plasma flamethrower proficiency: 5% burn duration per level [Attributes] Standard Plasma Flamethrower Damage: 500 (estimate) per second (more than AR, less than HMG) Persistent burning damage: 30 per second Persistent burning duration on shielded/armored objects: 5 seconds Persistent burning damage on non-shielded/armored objects: 15 seconds (burning objects inflict the persistent burning damage to anyone touching them) Range: 50 meters Magazine size: enough for 7 seconds of continuous fire Capacity: 3 magazines worth [Variants] Burst: Fires in powerful semiautomatic bursts, and would basically be a heavy shotgun. Tactical: Bigger magazine, more range, but less damage. Scorcher: Lower damage, but more burn duration (things stay burning longer). Breach: Small magazine, high damage. [What it could look like] It could look much like FIRE like this or this, though preferably with a distinctive color like purple (game needs more color variety). It could look like LIGHTNING like this or this since lightning fits the definition of plasma. Perhaps something in between. In case you didn't click... seriously, look at how amazing that looks, nature is awesome. Anyway, please CCP, let me burn people alive. Thank you for reading KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I wish to become a god of blood and flame, melting the flesh of enemies with ionizing plasma! I wish to walk across a battlefield littered with the burning remains of thousands of enemies, and to crush their charred skulls under my heavy boot. Make it happen CCP, and I will murder in thy name; it will be GLORIOUS! I will create an alt, and form a mad cult of war that exclusively use the plasma flamethrower. Imagine a battle where an entire team of heavies wielding plasma flamethrowers are running wild with religious fervor, speaking in ancient forbidden tongues as they massacre the unsuspecting fools that dare to defy them. Offer still stands the area denial fires would create MONSTER LAG... like EQUIPMENT SPAM... but i LOVE the idea +.75
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 625	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:33:00 - [222] - Quote id prefer wielding a large 80gj blaster turret with my heavy..as much as id like to burn my enemies with fire. i just dont think i could close the distance with all the rail rifles roaming about. edit: now that i think about. it might be usefull against proto bears for when they start camping that supply depot on the galente research facility. but then id have to worry about them using the same thing.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8709	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:37:00 - [223] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: id prefer wielding a large 80gj blaster turret with my heavy..as much as id like to burn my enemies with fire. i just dont think i could close the distance with all the rail rifles roaming about. edit: now that i think about. it might be usefull against proto bears for when they start camping that supply depot on the galente research facility. but then id have to worry about them using the same thing. Gallente weapons tend to have the shortest ranges in their class. I think an Amarr heavy weapon would be better suited for mid range. Caldari = long range (forge gun) Amarr = mid-long range Minmatar = short-mid range (HMG) Gallente = short range Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 63	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:18:00 - [224] - Quote This thread +1
Ventis Gant Goibhniu Industries 39	Posted - 2014.01.30 04:27:00 - [225] - Quote Beforcial wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Professormohawk wrote: dont make it race only. make Amarr get a different one. I don't think you understand how racial items work in Dust. All weapons and dropsuits are made by a specific race, but all races can use them. I am not saying that only Amarr should be able to use it, only that its origin should be Amarr. HMG, mass driver, SMG, and the upcoming flaylock pistol are Minmatar. Shotgun, assault rifle, and the upcoming plasma cannon are Gallente. Sniper rifle, railgun, and the upcoming gauss rifle are Caldari Laser rifle, scrambler pistol, and the upcoming scrambler rifle are Amarr. you forgot the forgun as caldari Nope. Forge gun is a mining laser gone horribly wrong. Which makes it ORE tech. Although I guess it could have been the Caldari who did the tinkering. But at root, the forge gun is fueled by the condensed rage of all the helpless miners of EVE who have ever been suicide ganked.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8718	Posted - 2014.01.30 05:01:00 - [226] - Quote Ventis Gant wrote: Beforcial wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Professormohawk wrote: dont make it race only. make Amarr get a different one. I don't think you understand how racial items work in Dust. All weapons and dropsuits are made by a specific race, but all races can use them. I am not saying that only Amarr should be able to use it, only that its origin should be Amarr. HMG, mass driver, SMG, and the upcoming flaylock pistol are Minmatar. Shotgun, assault rifle, and the upcoming plasma cannon are Gallente. Sniper rifle, railgun, and the upcoming gauss rifle are Caldari Laser rifle, scrambler pistol, and the upcoming scrambler rifle are Amarr. you forgot the forgun as caldari Nope. Forge gun is a mining laser gone horribly wrong. Which makes it ORE tech. Although I guess it could have been the Caldari who did the tinkering. But at root, the forge gun is fueled by the condensed rage of all the helpless miners of EVE who have ever been suicide ganked. Forge gun is a Caldari rail weapon. I don't know how there can be any doubt that its Caldari given its angular design and coloring. From the in game description "Powered by a Gemini microcapacitor, the forge gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s" from the description, using electromagnetics to propel a solid object, clearly Caldari rail tech. No lasers involved. This chart from CCP lists the forge gun as a rail weapon. From this dev blog. Your comment could very well have been meant as a joke, but it could also be serious with some EVE reference I don't get, so I replied in a serious manner. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9615	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:51:00 - [227] - Quote Edited Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Aerius Corius FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 29	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:56:00 - [228] - Quote Flamethrowers were originally built (in RL) for the purpose of bunker busting. The the sheer heat and range, coupled with the fact any enemy in the general direction of the flame could not see the wielder, made it a tactically powerful weapon. On the open field, a flamethrower is almost useless as the ability to outmaneuver the heavy weapon and the ease at which the wielder could be seen improves. In close quarters though, such as building corridors or windows, it obstructs enemy view making it a deadly weapon. DUST wise, TACNET still shows where enemies are via scanners or the simple chevron, but the 'visual' of a flamethrower coming through a door where you're defending, or likewise out to the enemy, makes for a very charged situation. +1 for tactics! That guy you killed with 0% shields? Yeah, I sniped him - go team. Oh, you didn't know...hmm. *CCP: Display Assists!!!
The-Errorist 518	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:51:00 - [229] - Quote Still want this; it would be great for weapon variety.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 228	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:56:00 - [230] - Quote It's a Ore inspired weapon adopted by the caldari, But some QQs try to class the forge as a AV weapon. I'd love a mini game for punching cry hard in the nuts. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9724	Posted - 2014.03.03 03:53:00 - [231] - Quote I want! Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10208	Posted - 2014.04.01 05:06:00 - [232] - Quote Things need to burn Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10367	Posted - 2014.04.09 21:58:00 - [233] - Quote Anyone else like glorious burning plasma? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+


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